Sony Is Skipping E3 2019

Do we really need this ever again?



Honestly, do we need an actual E3 anymore? Can't these companies just put the videos up on Youtube? E3 never lives up to the hype, mostly because we already know most everything now anyway.
 
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Do we really need this ever again?



Honestly, do we need an actual E3 anymore? Can't these companies just put the videos up on Youtube? E3 never lives up to the hype, mostly because we already know most everything now anyway.


They do seem like a waste of money. Nintendo is probably smart doing things the way they do.

It was pretty cool that year Sony had an orchestra though
 
It is a rather antiquated event. In this day and age is such a thing really needed by companies? I don't think so.

It makes more sense to do their own thing when they feel their products are ready to show vs having to work around a pre-set scheduled event. I know it's sort of gamers Christmas but I think we'll likely have to get used to this.

It seems a lot of people are saying Sony isn't going to show anything next year that's not likely the case, they were at E3 this year and aren't doing a PSX, there is no way they are gong to go through the 2nd half of 2018 and all of 2019 without showing TLOU2, GoT and DS let alone something else from Japan studio. I still think they'll do their own event and announce the PS5, some are saying it'll be out next fall and others saying Spring 2020 so we'll see.
 
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Booth babes need to come back.

E3 was always the thing id wait with excitement every year. Shame if it goes away.
 
It's funny, trade shows for video games were really important back when the only place we could get info was either from enthusiast magazines and maybe some local news coverage. The internet really has made events like these unnecessary, these companies can reach any audience any day of the week with direct feed footage and a controlled message. Don't get me wrong I love the press conferences as much as anyone else and I don't think they are going away all together but I can see why a company would want to skip E3 in favor of doing something on their own that fits their schedule better.
 
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I love these close-ups of stock market results that make it look like the company has fallen off a cliff. Sony is doomed.
 
It makes more sense to do their own thing when they feel their products are ready to show vs having to work around a pre-set scheduled event. I know it's sort of gamers Christmas but I think we'll likely have to get used to this.

It seems a lot of people are saying Sony isn't going to show anything next year that's not likely the case, they were at E3 this year and aren't doing a PSX, there is no way they are gong to go through the 2nd half of 2018 and all of 2019 without showing TLOU2, GoT and DS let alone something else from Japan studio. I still think they'll do their own event and announce the PS5, some are saying it'll be out next fall and others saying Spring 2020 so we'll see.
It will be 2020. No way PS5 is launching next year.
 
It will be 2020. No way PS5 is launching next year.

Could be, we'll see but there is no real reason to wait IF the hardware is ready, pricing won't change in a year and neither will the production process.
 
Could be, we'll see but there is no real reason to wait IF the hardware is ready, pricing won't change in a year and neither will the production process.
We been through this...
The pricing most likely would be cheaper as would the production costs.
This is how tech works.

Anyway a good spec PS5 in 2019 would be great
 
We been through this...
The pricing most likely would be cheaper as would the production costs.
This is how tech works.

Anyway a good spec PS5 in 2019 would be great

We've been through it that in 1 year it won't change enough to make it worth the wait, the Pro is still the same price and hasn't seen any big revision other than minor things that make it quieter and it's been on the market for 2 years. We aren't going to get a die shrink in a year (it's already going to be small) and pricing isn't going to change in a year. If the yields are good enough there is no reason to wait, if they aren't then yeah hold off that's why I emphasized the "IF" the hardware is ready in the post you quoted. Pricing changes over time yes but one year with what's rumored to be going into the machine isn't going to make a bit of difference.
 
We've been through it that in 1 year it won't change enough to make it worth the wait, the Pro is still the same price and hasn't seen any big revision other than minor things that make it quieter and it's been on the market for 2 years. We aren't going to get a die shrink in a year (it's already going to be small) and pricing isn't going to change in a year. If the yields are good enough there is no reason to wait, if they aren't then yeah hold off that's why I emphasized the "IF" the hardware is ready in the post you quoted. Pricing changes over time yes but one year with what's rumored to be going into the machine isn't going to make a bit of difference.

Yes but the PS4 is still printing money, and MS won’t release Scarlett until 2020 (most likely), so why bother? Hardware is expensive, and it’s looking like TLOU 2 will be a launch title, so what’s the rush.

As a consumer, of course I’d like to see it sooner. But from a business point of view, 2020 makes much more sense.
 
Yes but the PS4 is still printing money, and MS won’t release Scarlett until 2020 (most likely), so why bother? Hardware is expensive, and it’s looking like TLOU 2 will be a launch title, so what’s the rush.

As a consumer, of course I’d like to see it sooner. But from a business point of view, 2020 makes much more sense.

TLOU2 won't be held off to be a PS5 launch game, it'll likely be a cross-gen game or the PS5 will be fully backwards compatible and it's possible they may patch in some improvements for it. You don't spend a ton of money on big titles to launch a console anymore, the hardcore show up day one and all through the first year regardless of what's on the platform. You save the big expensive games for when you'll have a larger user base able to buy it and make the money back. There is a reason you don't see Halo games at launch on Xbox consoles anymore and Nintendo does cross-gen Zelda games at launch etc. Hell PS4 didn't have a console selling game either and it did just fine. I'm sure you weren't meaning to say that TLOU2 was being moved from PS4 to PS5 but there really is no reason to hold an entire console launch off for a single game.

I really don't think they are all that worried about Scarlett either, they launched at the same time as MS with the X1 and clobbered them, yeah MS made a ton of mistakes but this is now the 3rd generation of Xbox and MS hasn't made any progress in what they'd call "secondary markets" for MS it's all about North America and the UK, Xbox just isn't a globally popular brand and PlayStation is.

Matt at Resetera said that Sony was planning the PS5 for 2019 but as always that could change, being that there won't be any real price advantage or significant gain in power with the way the manufacturing for the parts rumored to be going into the PS5 2019 makes sense. It's being aggressive and not just sitting back, it's going forward with their own plan and not being reactionary to what a competitor is doing. It could very well be 2020 but IF the hardware is ready in 2019 there really is no reason to hold off.
 
We've been through it that in 1 year it won't change enough to make it worth the wait, the Pro is still the same price and hasn't seen any big revision other than minor things that make it quieter and it's been on the market for 2 years. We aren't going to get a die shrink in a year (it's already going to be small) and pricing isn't going to change in a year. If the yields are good enough there is no reason to wait, if they aren't then yeah hold off that's why I emphasized the "IF" the hardware is ready in the post you quoted. Pricing changes over time yes but one year with what's rumored to be going into the machine isn't going to make a bit of difference.
Sony has no need to drop the pro price especially with people still buying them.

If they could release in 19 with 11 tf's for 399....they likely due to chip costs etc release in 2020 with 13 tf's for the same price. They most likely couldn't release with 13 tf's in 19 for 399.
 
Sony has no need to drop the pro price especially with people still buying them.

If they could release in 19 with 11 tf's for 399....they likely due to chip costs etc release in 2020 with 13 tf's for the same price. They most likely couldn't release with 13 tf's in 19 for 399.

Doubtful, these are going to be newer CPU's and GPU''s compared to what's in the Pro and One X, those were just upgraded versions of what's in the standard consoles, these are going to be a totally different family of processors, same with the CPU's so they aren't going to get these leaps in power at a lower price one year later. Hell the standard PS4 took years to drop in price and even then it was only with other cost cutting moves made to the console. You are over estimating the drop in price that will happen for what's being rumored in the PS5, at least based on the stuff I've been reading about the die shrinks not happening for several years after launch etc. I know how things used to work but it just isn't quite the same way anymore.
 
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The PlayStation family not dropping in price much has nothing to do with costs not coming down.

Sony could easily sell a PS4 for 129/50 and Pro for about 250.

They don't cause people are still buying.

If you think after after 2 years Sony's costs haven't come down for the dated spec Pro then LOL@you.

As far what the console will sell for?
That's anybody's guess as Sony could sell at a loss or not over due the specs ie 10-11.2 TF's to get that 399-450 price point or wait till 2020 as costs come down and throw a 12-13 TF machine together for the same as the above price point.

OR release a 14-15 TF machine for $500.

I don't see them selling at $500 so them going over 13 TF's is unlikely unless(as costs come down) they release in 2021.
 
The PlayStation family not dropping in price much has nothing to do with costs not coming down.

Sony could easily sell a PS4 for 129/50 and Pro for about 250.

They don't cause people are still buying.

If you think after after 2 years Sony's costs haven't come down for the dated spec Pro then LOL@you.

As far what the console will sell for?
That's anybody's guess as Sony could sell at a loss or not over due the specs ie 10-11.2 TF's to get that 399-450 price point or wait till 2020 as costs come down and throw a 12-13 TF machine together for the same as the above price point.

OR release a 14-15 TF machine for $500.

I don't see them selling at $500 so them going over 13 TF's is unlikely unless(as costs come down) they release in 2021.

Costs have come down but they didn't drop $100 in a year, secondly they started off with dated hardware in both the base PS4 and the Pro, the stuff that's rumored to be in the PS5 isn't low mid range this time. From what I've read it'll be a few years before they have the option to got to a smaller die size, that's when most of the cost savings kick in, you don't just drop $100 in a year because of time. Hell the One X is $100 more than the Pro, yeah they had 4 more gigs of ram and a stronger GPU but that extra power also meant a more expensive cooling solution as well.
 
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My guess with TLOU2 it’ll have a “definitive edition” on ps5, 4k 60 or repeat whatever tricks they did with the PS4 version over the PS3 variant
 
Costs have come down but they didn't drop $100 in a year, secondly they started off with dated hardware in both the base PS4 and the Pro, the stuff that's rumored to be in the PS5 isn't low mid range this time. From what I've read it'll be a few years before they have the option to got to a smaller die size, that's when most of the cost savings kick in, you don't just drop $100 in a year because of time. Hell the One X is $100 more than the Pro, yeah they had 4 more gigs of ram and a stronger GPU but that extra power also meant a more expensive cooling solution as well.
X hasn't dropped either cause its selling well.
 
I will have mixed feelings if Sony releases a new console in 2019. On the one hand, I'd be glad to have a PS5 that could fully handle 4K/HDR. Otoh, I just spent a bunch of money on an Xbox X, so that I could have "the most powerful console in the world" for the next 2 years -- but that would shrink to just 1 year.

I've spent $400-$500 each year for the past 2 years on new consoles. I'm not really excited about doing it again next year, too.
 
X hasn't dropped either cause its selling well.

It's not selling well enough to keep it from dropping the price if they still make a small profit on it, it has only been out a year and no console drops $100 in the first year anymore unless they remove something expensive from the package like Kinect.
 
I will have mixed feelings if Sony releases a new console in 2019. On the one hand, I'd be glad to have a PS5 that could fully handle 4K/HDR. Otoh, I just spent a bunch of money on an Xbox X, so that I could have "the most powerful console in the world" for the next 2 years -- but that would shrink to just 1 year.

I've spent $400-$500 each year for the past 2 years on new consoles. I'm not really excited about doing it again next year, too.

That's the problem with always chasing power, for me the One X is likely the last MS console I buy unless MS starts making exclusive games that I really want. Up until now I've said I don't regret buying the One X but I also see that I would have been just fine sticking with my Pro and I wouldn't recommend someone buy a One X if they already have a Pro, sure if they have a standard Xbox One I'd tell them to upgrade but people could certainly live just fine with the Pro until the PS5 comes out and you can always trade your Pro in towards the PS5 if it's fully backwards compatible and not have to worry about losing any games.

While the games look better on the X they still look very good on the Pro and this was likely the last generation where 1.8TF will make a semi sizeable difference in graphical fidelity. I do regret going all digital on the Xbox side, it makes me not want to trade the console in because I can't trade the games with it. I have already let my gold sub expire and I don't see myself renewing it because I don't play MP games very often. I'm more than ready for the PS5, most powerful machine for a year or two and I only have to worry about one ecosystem to be a part of and even when MS does bring out a new machine the power gap won't be big enough that it makes much of a difference.
 
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That's the problem with always chasing power, for me the One X is likely the last MS console I buy unless MS starts making exclusive games that I really want. Up until now I've said I don't regret buying the One X but I also see that I would have been just fine sticking with my Pro and I wouldn't recommend someone buy a One X if they already have a Pro,

Gotta disagree with you there. I'd recommend an X to anyone with a 4K TV and Pro. The X is twice as powerful as the Pro. You get a much better picture. Doesn't make sense to buy a 4K TV and not take advantage of it.

BC is great, too.

I do regret going all digital on the Xbox side, it makes me not want to trade the console in because I can't trade the games with it.

Yeah, you sound pretty disappointed in the system.

I don't feel that way. I'm very happy with the X.
 
It's not selling well enough to keep it from dropping the price if they still make a small profit on it, it has only been out a year and no console drops $100 in the first year anymore unless they remove something expensive from the package like Kinect.
The costs have come down enough for a price drop period.

Anybody can make up stuff like no console drops 100 anymore unless they drop stuff lol.

Sales and costs coming down are what cause price drops.

With sales being the main reason.
 
I feel like X boxes above it's weight class more while being more powerful at the same time. Fallout 76 for example runs at 4k at the same rate pro does at 1440 and along with better lighting, AO, and performance. So many examples like this and if you have a nice big TV it really shows
 
Gotta disagree with you there. I'd recommend an X to anyone with a 4K TV and Pro. The X is twice as powerful as the Pro. You get a much better picture. Doesn't make sense to buy a 4K TV and not take advantage of it.

BC is great, too.



Yeah, you sound pretty disappointed in the system.

I don't feel that way. I'm very happy with the X.

X isn't anywhere near twice as powerful as the Pro :) It's 6TF vs 4.2 as far as disappointed I'm disappointed in the 1st party content not the console. It's not $500 better than the Pro but it's better, I just couldn't justify telling someone who already spent $400 on a Pro to spend another $500 on an X. I can totally see the benefit in getting it over a standard X1 or X1S though.
 
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