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Honestly, they really should focus on making the ui quicker, it's really slow atm and I'm thinking it has to do with all the ads, because otherwise I can't understand why my one x takes a couple of seconds to respond to inputs in the dashboard. It's gotten progressively worse over the last year. Thought it was because me being in alpha ring but my one x isn't and it's still slow.

That could be part of the issue. I’ve noticed it’s kinda dependent of your internet connection speed, sometimes it’s fast and smooth and sometimes kinda hitchy, whilst on WiFi. If I hook it up straight to my modem it’s, almost, always good, 99% of the time.
 
That could be part of the issue. I’ve noticed it’s kinda dependent of your internet connection speed, sometimes it’s fast and smooth and sometimes kinda hitchy, whilst on WiFi. If I hook it up straight to my modem it’s, almost, always good, 99% of the time.
That's logical I guess, but I assume most people do wireless and my router stands about 5 meters away behind a wooden door. Have a semi expensive belkin router and 1000/1000mb connection, if it's slow because of that they really need to make it less demanding.
 
Jez also said after someone asked him if he thought Scarlet would be more powerful than the Ps5, and I quote, "I KNOW IT WILL."
Who is Jez, again, and how would he know enough about both companies' plans to make such a statement?
 
He's probably just assuming that the PS5 will come out first which means that by default the next Xbox will be more powerful when it comes out later
 
He's probably just assuming that the PS5 will come out first which means that by default the next Xbox will be more powerful when it comes out later

Quite possibly.

Personally I think we’ll see both in 2020.

MS learned a harsh lesson this gen, and with the money they are throwing around on studios alone, I’m sure they won’t lose the ‘power war’ again. Ever. They’re all in.
 


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Who is Jez, again, and how would he know enough about both companies' plans to make such a statement?
Jez works for Windows central. He tweets pretty often and he usually has some prerty solid info. I wouldn't label him an insider but, he's come through enough to be heard. Check him out on Twitter. You'll find his response that I quoted.
 
Quite possibly.

Personally I think we’ll see both in 2020.

MS learned a harsh lesson this gen, and with the money they are throwing around on studios alone, I’m sure they won’t lose the ‘power war’ again. Ever. They’re all in.

The power war is going to be pretty meaningless once we get into next gen, the machines will both be over 10TF (most likely) so it's hard to see where either company could push the tech in a realistic way beyond what the other does, they are going to have to put more and faster memory in the new machines and higher end CPU's so costs are already going to be higher plus they'll have heating and power consumption to worry about.

Just look at the One X, people always compare that to the Pro as if they launched at the same time but they didn't, the One X came out a year later and cost $100 more so you expect it to be more powerful but it also took a more expensive cooling solution and an extra 4GB of memory which pushed the cost to $500. I don't think either company is going to be willing to lose money ever again on console sales (they've basically said that) and they fact that tech isn't advancing as fast as it did 10 years ago means any meaningful power advantage you get by waiting a year is going to be pretty small. You may be able to claim to be the most powerful on paper but in real life it's going to be hard to see much difference.

The difference will be more about who's got the games to offer and the better overall experience. MS didn't lose this gen just because of the power difference, yeah people like us pay attention to that but they lost because they came out $100 more than the competition with a weaker console and tried to force a bunch of non gaming stuff on the early adopters who are all about games. They also totally failed to introduce successful new IP's and their biggest series have fallen a bit in popularity, they simply misread their audience. MS isn't likely to ever "win" a generation, they just don't have the global appeal that Sony or Nintendo do, that doesn't mean they can't make a ton of money and be very successful if they do things the right way but three generations in they still haven't made many gains in anyplace that's not called North America or the UK.

MS is buying smaller studios so the while then number of studios sounds like a lot it's not like they are throwing around money with reckless abandon either, it's strategic spending and I'm glad they are doing it but it's doubtful any of these new studios will have anything ready before 2021 unless they had something they were already deep into development on that is just going to be moved over to the next xbox.
 
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While I agree next gen will be at the point of diminishing returns, I disagree about power not being a major factor last gen. That was practically the entire narrative the first few years. I mean c’mon, Yoshida was quoted as saying ‘1080p allows you to be a better gamer’.

The message to the consumer was the X1 was underpowered, overpriced, and focused on TV. It got buried because of that the first few years. The ‘exclusives, exclusives’ came later, especially once the X debuted.

So while we might not see a big difference in game quality, I fully expected MS to do some serious dick-waving with numbers once they are released. DF videos matter to quite a few people, apparently, and they are helping to sell the X. For example, sites reported big jumps in inquires about it after the RDR2 comparisons came out, and sales increased.

So while it may not matter to the casual, and it might not be a huge difference in the end, the performance numbers do matter, and I’ll double down on MS’s focus on being most powerful.

I also agree about the studios, but I think we’ll see games before ‘21. The reports have all been saying MS has been giving these studios tons of support and resources. Several of them have hired a significant number of employees already, and in terms of production, that’s huge. I expect to see something significant from every one of them at E3, and probably new stuff teased well before that.

And I agree, they probably won’t ‘win’ the generation, but they don’t have to. They have a completely different strategy. As long as the brand keeps growing, it’s a win for everybody. I’m excited to see some new stuff!
 
While I agree next gen will be at the point of diminishing returns, I disagree about power not being a major factor last gen. That was practically the entire narrative the first few years. I mean c’mon, Yoshida was quoted as saying ‘1080p allows you to be a better gamer’.

The message to the consumer was the X1 was underpowered, overpriced, and focused on TV. It got buried because of that the first few years. The ‘exclusives, exclusives’ came later, especially once the X debuted.

So while we might not see a big difference in game quality, I fully expected MS to do some serious dick-waving with numbers once they are released. DF videos matter to quite a few people, apparently, and they are helping to sell the X. For example, sites reported big jumps in inquires about it after the RDR2 comparisons came out, and sales increased.

So while it may not matter to the casual, and it might not be a huge difference in the end, the performance numbers do matter, and I’ll double down on MS’s focus on being most powerful.

I also agree about the studios, but I think we’ll see games before ‘21. The reports have all been saying MS has been giving these studios tons of support and resources. Several of them have hired a significant number of employees already, and in terms of production, that’s huge. I expect to see something significant from every one of them at E3, and probably new stuff teased well before that.

And I agree, they probably won’t ‘win’ the generation, but they don’t have to. They have a completely different strategy. As long as the brand keeps growing, it’s a win for everybody. I’m excited to see some new stuff!

DF videos will likely be hard pressed to find meaningful difference next gen without microscopic comparisons which will come off as a bit desperate. The original X1 and PS4 launched at the same time so comparing them straight up was fair, people treat comparing the Pro and the One X like they are the same situation are misguided.

I don't get this belief that MS fans have (I used to believe it too) that they always have the most powerful hardware, that's only been true once and that was when the original Xbox launched which came out after the other consoles did. The 360 was not more powerful than the PS3 it was just better designed which ended up making more of a difference than the raw power advantage of the PS3, the X1 was weaker than the PS4 and while the One X is the most powerful now it was yet again another console that came out after it's main competitor.

I still think the next xbox comes out a year after the PS5 and because of that they will have slightly more powerful hardware. The only way MS has a significant power advantage in any way is if Sony s***s the bed and puts out something that's like 8TF with 12GB of memory because they are afraid to go over $399 at launch.

You better hope that those new studios don't have games to show already next year, several of them are small studios who were mediocre to begin with and the last thing you want is them rushing something out for their debut 1st party MS game. The studio that's supposedly working on Fable seems like the one that would release a game first and they just started hiring this year right? No way a AAA game gets made in less than 3 years for a next gen console unless it's something barebones.
 
I don't know if the services themselves will be the key. Right now the services are pretty similar (apart from the game catalogs). I think what'll make the difference is that MS is planning to offer a low-cost subscription/digital-only model console, whereas (afaik) Sony is not. That could open up a sizeable market for Xbox among casual and/or income-strapped gamers, who normally don't join a generation at the beginning but might this time.
 
DF videos will likely be hard pressed to find meaningful difference next gen without microscopic comparisons which will come off as a bit desperate. The original X1 and PS4 launched at the same time so comparing them straight up was fair, people treat comparing the Pro and the One X like they are the same situation are misguided.

I don't get this belief that MS fans have (I used to believe it too) that they always have the most powerful hardware, that's only been true once and that was when the original Xbox launched which came out after the other consoles did. The 360 was not more powerful than the PS3 it was just better designed which ended up making more of a difference than the raw power advantage of the PS3, the X1 was weaker than the PS4 and while the One X is the most powerful now it was yet again another console that came out after it's main competitor.

I still think the next xbox comes out a year after the PS5 and because of that they will have slightly more powerful hardware. The only way MS has a significant power advantage in any way is if Sony s***s the bed and puts out something that's like 8TF with 12GB of memory because they are afraid to go over $399 at launch.

You better hope that those new studios don't have games to show already next year, several of them are small studios who were mediocre to begin with and the last thing you want is them rushing something out for their debut 1st party MS game. The studio that's supposedly working on Fable seems like the one that would release a game first and they just started hiring this year right? No way a AAA game gets made in less than 3 years for a next gen console unless it's something barebones.
Hiring doesn't mean that much at first. Pre production is a large, important part of developing anything, and that won't require much more than your core team. They'll likely get all the prototyping and conceptual work buttoned up before they even know how many people TO hire.
 
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