Backwards Compatibility
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cool, but not cool because it's not exactly what I wanted.
Save for those few big official announcements, we know next to nothing of the process for this stuff. I do figure there's two layers to it, tech and licensing, but I wish they'd throw us a bone and tell us about some games that are planned.
Maybe even if they have licensing permission, some games don't even end up working out. Maybe it's a big ol clusterf***. Still gonna complain though.
Save for those few big official announcements, we know next to nothing of the process for this stuff. I do figure there's two layers to it, tech and licensing, but I wish they'd throw us a bone and tell us about some games that are planned.
Maybe even if they have licensing permission, some games don't even end up working out. Maybe it's a big ol clusterf***. Still gonna complain though.
Bound in Blood is good -- or at least I thought so, when I played it a decade ago. The Cartel stinks.
Here's an old gameplay clip from Bound in Blood. This was long before Red Dead Redemption set the bar for westerns, and at the time, it seemed pretty fun.
Here's an old gameplay clip from Bound in Blood. This was long before Red Dead Redemption set the bar for westerns, and at the time, it seemed pretty fun.
I never played Gunslinger, but my impression was that it was a very stripped down, arcadey experience, featuring an unconnected series of shootouts and boss fights. Bound in Blood, otoh, was a full game with an involved storyline involving two brothers and a bunch of other characters. There was a lot of shooting, but more variety of activities than in Gunslinger. At the start of each chapter, you could choose which brother you wanted to play as, which was pretty unique. The overall story was pretty good, iirc.
They killed the series' reputation with The Cartel, which was a misguided attempt to place it in the modern world and make it about gang violence. Really awful.
Gunslinger was a stripped-down attempt to offer the core experience of shooting, minus all the story and character. Since I'm a story/character guy, I didn't find that interesting.
Loved the first one, don't remember playing the sequel (though looking at my achievement history, I did). Don't know if game holds up.
Correct, I'm guessing story was meh, that's usually why I forget games.I guess it didn't really make a good impression if you can't remember playing it
Guessing bc will matter next gen 
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...ation-5-backwards-compatibility-rumours-again
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...ation-5-backwards-compatibility-rumours-again
Guessing bc will matter next gen
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...ation-5-backwards-compatibility-rumours-again
The PS4/XBox One have more GAAS than the prior gen so...yes it will matter more.
I mean, look at this very thread. This is a great sample of people who "care" about BC, and yet 42 pages in, no one's actually talking about the last gen games they're playing. It's pretty telling
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Because they've played and talked about them already. I'm playing through Gears 3 now in 4k (after playing through 2). I jump into old games all the time (like Alan Wake and Blue Dragon), and it's an awesome feature that restores games I already own. The only real problem is not having many of them digitally.
I'm sure there are a few people, like yourself, that appreciate the feature. I just think the importance has been overblown by XBox fans who feel sorry about the state of the XBox One this generation. I mean, there's a reason why Microsoft has never given us relavent statistics on the matter. It's because they don't look good.
I played through both Gears 2 and 3 once they got enhanced and both hold up extremely well. I’m currently going through Splinter Cell on back compat since I skipped them last gen. Alan Wake’s DLC and Vanquish are on my upcoming to-do list.
Thing I’ve learned is last gen holds up extremely well. Especially when they get enhanced. For people who like single player, story driven games, some of these games really stand out more now than they did even a couple years ago.
Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey have intrigued me forever.
You could say that about any feature or franchise. If backwards compatibility was a niche thing, I don’t think Microsoft would continue to tout it or keep investing in it. Makes no sense to dilute resources towards something that doesn’t matter.
No, no you couldn't. There's tons of features that actually matter to a large percentage of gamers. I just don't think BC specifically is one of them. Also...
We don't know how many resources Microsoft is "diverting" to BC and we don't know the marketing effect the feature has on the buying public. I've long said it's a feature a lot of people think they're interested in until they boot up that old game, play it for 5 minutes, and then go "No thanks". There's simply too many new games to play today.
If Microsoft was proud of the data, they'd be sharing it. They're not.
If old games didn’t matter, Remasters wouldn’t be so prevalent. Most Remasters aren’t major upgrades to the original games.
Old games are mattering more as time passes, not less. Crash sales are a great example. Sales of the early CODs show that as well.
If old games didn’t matter, we wouldn’t see Nintendo and PlayStation mini’s.
If old games didn’t matter, Sony wouldn’t have just established a BC patent.
If you want evidence, follow the money. Corporations aren’t into goodwill for free.
What evidence is there that people are saying “no thanks” after 5 minutes? Most last gen games hold up rather well especially when enhanced. I think last gen’s game design is better in most single player games. The previous generations games were more contained and were carried more by gameplay.
BC matters enough.
I do would love to see how much digital sales of bc games been since release though. I bought rdr even though I have it on disk to play on stefan.
I do would love to see how much digital sales of bc games been since release though. I bought rdr even though I have it on disk to play on stefan.
MS have given enough stats to show more than enough people care about bc and use the feature but please continue to ignore it Sunset until Sony finally admit their mistake and stop trying to charge gamers to play games they already own.
Sunset is just having a hot take and pulling it out his a** like always.
BC matters.
I remain wholly unconvinced for a number of reasons that you're conveniently ignoring.
1. PC gamers do not play old single player games on Steam unless there is a big modding community attached to said game. See Skyrim. Why would console gamers be any different?
2. The only statistic MS released regarding BC is the number of gamers who "tried" the feature. The reason they did this is because releasing the amount of time gamers spent with BC titles would make them look bad. They're not in the business of making themselves look bad.
3. You fail to realize that BC is indeed going to matter more and more as time marches on. GAAS didn't really exist on the 360/PS3. Certainly not as much as it does today. Microsoft just jumped on a generation too early.
4. If BC mattered, wouldn't we see some kind of coorelation with hardware sales? Did the XBox One make up any ground with the PS4 after Microsoft told gamers they could now play XBox 360 games on their machine? No. Why? Because the feature doesn't excite anyone.
This all just comes off as the chubby girl dissing the prom queen because she's not getting the attention she wants.
So in a nutshell, you're saying that Microsoft incorporating backwards compatibility this gen was a mistake?
I don't care what anyone else is doing, as long as it's enough to continue supporting it. It's a great added feature that adds value to the console and adds value as continued legitimacy to my purchases. End of. It removes my games' end date of sorts by being carried through to the next consoles.
No. I just don't think it moves the needle for the vast majority of gamers out there.
you have said this already can you stop saying this. I get it that Xbox is not your thing. To continue to troll will get you into trouble.
So please if there is nothing else to say just stop coming over.
Try to follow the context of the conversation. I was essentially asked by Pureshooter to restate my stance, which is why I did just that.
Also, silencing opposing viewpoints creates echo chambers. I'm not sure if there's much value in those.
Be happy.
Got any numbers to back that up?. It's your opinion and is probably backed up by your experiences and that of your friends. Just because it's not important to the people you interact with doesn't mean its not important to a lot of people.
For me, it's important. I get to play games with my kids that they were too young to play before. I get to relive some memories with them that I wouldn't have been able to otherwise. I just replaced Ninja Gaiden Black not too long ago and absolutely loved it. It was well worth paying $10 to play it again. Lots of other games I'm replaying or buying digitally. I feel its was a worth while feature and so so the people I interact with.
The only people who can really say if its worth it is MS. They are the one who know how much we play them and how much effort and money they put into having this feature.
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It is a good feature. Why is it so important that it move the metaphorical needle? Maybe not by itself, but in aggregate with other features, it is a great way to sweeten the pot.
Popularity seems to be a common thread in what you post. It feels like you need some kind of validation in your choices that most of us don't.
Fortnite isn't backwards compatible and you can't draft Josh Allen in Madden '12. #thread