CES 2018....

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Sep 11, 2013
So far I seen news reports on Samsung's 146" wall display ang LG's roll up big screen...


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Sep 14, 2013
4K Projectors go under $1500!
Evan Powell — Jan 8, 2018

CES 2018
opens in Las Vegas this week and it ushers in several new 4K home theater projectors priced under $1500

ViewSonic releases the PX727-4K
Viewsonic has announced the PX727-4K, their first 4K UHD home entertainment projector. It uses the new 0.47” 4K UHD chipset and XPR technology to put a 3840x2160, 8.3 million pixel image on the screen.

Rated at 2200 lumens, the PX727-4K is HDR (High Dynamic Range)-compatible with open standard HDR. It offers both Rec. 709 and Rec. 2020 compatibility and DCI-P3 wide color gamut. Color reproduction is enhanced with an exclusive SuperColor™ six-segment RGBRGB color wheel that produces a broad color spectrum with bright and deep color saturation.

Other features of the PX727-4K include a 1.2x optical zoom lens, HDMI 2.0/HDCP 2.2 support, a 12V trigger, and an onboard 10-watt speaker. The projector has and an energy-saving SuperEco™ function that reduces power consumption and extends the lamp life to up to 15,000 hours.

The ViewSonic PX727-4K begins shipping this month for a street price of $1499 including a unique 3-year warranty.

Optoma adds Alexa Voice Command to 4K
Optoma has announced two new 4K home theater projectors, the UHD51A and the UHD50. Featuring the new 0.47” 4K UHD DLP chipset that delivers 3840x2160 pixels, these models are rated at 2400 lumens and 500,000:1 contrast. They both offer an RGBRGB color wheel and HDR10 with Rec.2020 / DCI-P3 Wide Color Gamut along with a pair of HDMI 2.0 inputs with HDCP 2.2 support to ensure compatibility with the latest 4K UHD video playback devices and game consoles with HDR at 60 Hz refresh rates.

The Optoma UHD51A is priced at $1699, and the UHD50 is at $1499. What is the difference you ask? They are basically the same projector, but you pay a bit extra for the UHD51A in order to get its innovative, industry first voice commandcapability, incorporating Amazon Alexa Smart Home and Custom Skills, as well as a built-in 4K UHD media player and Android OS.

The Optoma UHD51A and UHD50 both come with a one-year warranty and will be available in late March through Amazon, BestBuy.com and Fry’s Electronics.

BenQ announces CineHome HT2550
BenQ has announced a new entry level 4K home theater projector with its release of the CineHome HT2550, which also uses the new 0.47" 4K UHD DLP chip that puts 8.3 million pixels on screen. The HT2550 is rated at 2200 lumens and delivers 96% coverage of the Rec. 709 color gamut. It uses BenQ CinematicColor™ technology and an RGBRGB color wheel.

The CineHome HT2550 offers HDR10 and HDMI 2.0 w/ HDCP 2.2, along with motion-adaptive edge pixel enhancement, sophisticated color algorithms, and other proprietary processing. The HT2550 also includes a 1.2x zoom lens, auto keystone correction, a 5-watt speaker, and the ability to connect an HDMI dongle to activate streaming from sources like Google Chromecast, Roku, and Amazon Fire TV Stick.

The BenQ HT2550 retails for $1499 with a one-year warrantyand begins shipping this month. It is available in North America for pre-order exclusively via Amazon until Jan. 14 and at BenQ Direct. Additional availability starts Jan. 15 from Best Buy U.S. and Best Buy Canada ($1,999 CAD).

Evan Powell



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Sep 11, 2013
Sounds like this year's QLED's are going to be a nice upgrade over the subpar sets Samsung put out last year. From what I've read the black levels are great and it's back lit instead of edge lit. A smaller thing about the set that I really like is the fact that they use a box for all of the HDMI cables to hook up to and a single flat wire to head up to the tv rather than having to try to hide all of the cables coming out of the set it's self, that makes wall mounting a far more attractive option.


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Sep 11, 2013
TCL are making the new 6 series even better then last years P series.they are now supporting Dolby HDR and they added more zones and there will be a 55 inch for 649 and a 65 inch it also won editors choice for the tv in its price range


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Sep 11, 2013
TCL are making the new 6 series even better then last years P series.they are now supporting Dolby HDR and they added more zones and there will be a 55 inch for 649 and a 65 inch it also won editors choice for the tv in its price range
What's price of 65? I have the 55" P.


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Sep 11, 2013
so samsung tv's going to support vrr? are these 2018 modules and when do the usually come out?


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Sep 11, 2013
Geez. See this is why a low key hate CES. Reminds me that I wish I had more disposable income.
The thing that bothers me is the stuff they show that never ends up getting released or is still years away, why overshadow the sets you are going to be releasing this year with tech that's still over a year or longer from release? makes no sense. Like that saumsung set that uses a ton of micro LED's, I believe sony had something similar to that a few years ago and then never talked about it again. I love the idea of the tech, basically getting OLED performance without any of the potential problems but why show it now if it's not coming until at least 2019?


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Sep 11, 2013
so samsung tv's going to support vrr? are these 2018 modules and when do the usually come out?
I think in the video the guy said the 2018 QLED's will support it, not sure about a release date though. I hope they also support Dolby Vision, with Sony jumping on board it seems that Samsung is the only major manufacturer that's holding out unless they've announced it and I've just missed it.


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Sep 11, 2013

LMAO I felt the guy was putting on a bit of an act with his monotone mode of speaking, so I watched his Scorpio unboxing and lol the dude just rolls with it in the intro. Sorry Bellybama hes my new spirit animal ;)


Sep 18, 2013
LMAO I felt the guy was putting on a bit of an act with his monotone mode of speaking, so I watched his Scorpio unboxing and lol the dude just rolls with it in the intro. Sorry Bellybama hes my new spirit animal ;)
I don't blame you man! The dude is a total Rockstar!

Can you imagine what his sex tape would be like!?


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Sep 11, 2013

8K TV is Coming: What You Need to Know
by Mark Henninger on January 30, 2018

8K is coming. 2018 is the year 8K UHD TVsarrived in production-ready form at the annual CES in Las Vegas. These are typically very large TVs, measuring 85″ and up, which is fine since there’s hardly any point in making a small 8K TV screen. Granted, Dell already sells a 32″ 8K monitor (the UltraSharp 32 for $3700) but people are used to sitting close to monitors. Anyhow, by definition 8K UHD TVssport boundary-pushing specifications including the all-important 7680 x 4320 resolution.

While some anachronistic videophiles may bemoan the leap in resolution as unnecessary, the fact is that when it comes to displays, there’s no such thing as “too many pixels.” So when the first 8K TVs finally go on sale— the Samsung Q9S could very well earn that honor—don’t fret because you can’t rent 8K movies from Amazon (yet). The first 8K production cameras are either here today (from Red) or on the way (from Canon), and more are sure to follow.

Before worrying about where to find 8K content, let’s briefly examine the harsh truth about 4K UHD: There’s not a lot of movie content produced in native 4K resolution. That’s right, even in an era where premium 1080p TVs have almost completely disappeared, you’d be hard-pressed to find a movie that offers a pure 4K viewing experience. So, the first thing to realize is that upscaling will continue to be a part of the ultra-high-definition equation. In other words, you’re bound to see 4K content that’s upscaled to 8K for years to come.

Even today, it would not be accurate to say there’s no content available in 8K, which delivers 33 megapixels on screen. You need look no further that modern digital cameras to find a source of high-resolution imagery—Canon even has a 120-megapixel DSLR for sale. And given that a popular trend with premium TVs is to display art when not watching content, the potential picture quality offered by an 85” or larger 8K TV would allow you to examine exquisite levels of detail in photos and paintings, and do so from extremely close up. It’s all a matter of rethinking what a TV should be able to do.

The 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo have long been cited as representing the true dawn of the 8K era. However there’s a catch—the 8K broadcast that Japan’s NHK provides (called Super Hi-Vision) will work in Japan but not in the US or most of the rest of the world. However, two years is an eternity in the AV world, and by the time the games roll around, it’s entirely possible 8K streaming will be available.

So, what happens if you want to stream 8K right now? Believe it or not, YouTube already supports 8K resolution and has a small sampling of content to stream—albeit in limited quantities. Crucially, the built-in appsthat come with premium TVs are typically the first to support whatever new functionality that TV offers—current examples include support for HDR10+ in Samsung TVs and Dolby Vision various companies’ TVs. And while there are only a few PC graphics cardsthat can render 8K UHD resolution, they exist today and are supported by Windows 10.

Visually, what you can expect from an 8K TV—at the bare minimum—is totally invisible pixels, which is already the defacto standard for smartphones and tablets. You might think that if you can’t see a pixel grid, you don’t need a higher resolution, but the reality is that eliminating aliasing artifacts requires even smaller pixels than an invisible grid. While this observation is anecdotal, if you have a look at the first generation of iPhone to offer a “Retina” display (the iPhone 4, with 326 pixelsper inch), today’s phones offer greater pixeldensity (up to 577 ppi) and do look sharper as a result. The upshot here is that 8K may finally deliver the video-gaming ideal of truly photo-realistic graphics, while also displaying all the detail modern camera sensors can capture.

It’s important to remember that 4K UHD(3840×2160 pixels) wound up being about a lot more than resolution. With it came HDR and wide-color-gamut capability, which make significant contributions to overall picture quality. You can expect 8K TVs to continue that trend with an inexorable drive to cover the entire BT.2020 color gamut. And on the HDR side of things, 8K TV manufacturers are sure to pursue the technical ideal of a 10,000-nit HDR display—Sony showed a prototype of such a screen at CES 2018.

Speaking from first-hand experience at CES 2018, another important element is how increases in processing power affect the quality of upscaling. To wit, 2018 is the year of AI (artificial intelligence) algorithms, and a battle is brewing between the major TVmakers to offer the best next-generation processing.

Samsung touted the “AI Upscaling” of its Q9S at CES, and the demos showed that next-generation upscaling is better than what came before it. I recognize better algorithms from my years as a professional photographer using Photoshop. There is definitive proof that if you throw more processing power at the upscaling process, you can achieve superior results. But getting this to happen in real time and at high pixel counts is ultimately a matter of having sufficient processing power.

The upshot is that an 8K TV, working with a 4K UHD Blu-ray that (probably) has a bunch of 2K content in it (such as the CGI in movies) will likely offer the best-available rendition of that content—for a price. That’s how it always is with consumer-display technology; the early adopters get to have a ton of fun with the latest toys, but they pay a steep price for the privilege.

Perhaps the greatest barrier to enjoying what 8K has to offer is psychological. If you go to an IMAX presentation, you expect your entire field of vision to be filled by a gigantic screen. But there is a resistance to treating TVs the same way. Still, it’s a simple fact that with an 8K TV, you’ll be able to have an IMAX-like experience at home, as long as you sit close enough to the screen. Also, visually convincing virtual reality demands 8K resolution (per eye!) in order to eliminate visible pixels.

So while 8K remains a technology of the future (much like self-driving cars), it is not a distant pie-in-the-sky dream. And since an 8K TV will still work with SD, HD, and 4K UHDcontent, it’s inevitable that we’re going to see the current trickle of 8K news, content, and products become a flood.