Open world racers don't worry about anything other than cars, they don't have to have detailed human models with dialogue, animate them, set up storylines, don't have to worry about the interactions a human would have with the world and the places they could travel, add weapons and effects etc. There is a reason that racing games tend to be what shows off hardware at launch btw, they are the least demanding in many ways.
I happen to know car models are MUCH higher poly then most character models. Wasn't there a big deal about
Drake being 35000 polys last gen in Uncharted 2? And PGR3 used near
100,000 per car 4 years prior.
It works both ways, how many open world non-racers have real-time skeletal deformation for over 400 body types. Or how each item of clothing affects their aerodynamics.
Or how about where one has an extensive multiplayer mode. Even mission structures are profoundly similar.
I don't think any one believes a couple of hours of cutscenes takes 2-3 years on top. 6 weeks at best and maybe 2 more for pickups.
New IP's do take longer, you have to actually develop something from scratch vs just continuing something that's already established. There are times where an existing game is rebooted but that's another story.
We aren't really seeing that though. Respawn was founded in April 2010.Titanfall came out in March 2013. 39 months between Killzone 4 and Horizon. The Division and SoT 4 years, Anthem looks the same.
Gran Turismo Sport? God of War? Gravity Rush 2. Knack 2. Straight sequels. 4- 5 years (some of which are less feature complete than their predecessors). Assuming for PS6 we see 6-7 year time frames for those games would you still say 6-7 years is typical and no trouble?
You keep wanting to add your generic timelines to every developer regardless of the teams size, the scope of the project and frankly without knowing what the hell they are doing at all and it's just a stupid thing to do.
How is Detroits scope bigger than Beyond Two Souls? How is Sucker Punches new open world game, more open world then infamous?
I'm only judging these guys on how quick they used to make games, the issue is we aren't seeing a couple of months here and there, we're seeing years and years and years.
Who are these teams of under 100 that have made 3 open world games this gen?
You would only claim their open worlds don't count because the polygons aren't people shaped.
again if you are still standing by ubisoft you are wrong, those teams are WELL OVER 100 people, try a couple of hundred at least when you count the outsourcing that's done. I'm not knocking them at all by the way I'm knocking your assertion that they are 100 people or less.
If these studios are outsourcing, why aren't Quantic Dream, SP and MM.
If they are...whats the problem?
Rare is over 200 employees, they are over twice the size of sucker punch so again your comparison makes NO SENSE. It didn't take that many people to make Kinect sports rivals lol, clearly they have had teams working on different projects at the same time, SP doesn't do that.
The 200 count is from 2008 and about 80 or so were their second team at
Birmingham which didn't materialise in the end. They are around 120 now.
Also you don't know when development for SoT actually started, surely it was started before it was announced which would mean it's taken longer than 3.5 years.
It was greenlit (given the go ahead to make a full game) in late 2014 and announced in June 2015.
Nobody is taking 8 years, don't know who he's talking about. Bends last game was 2012 for vita, we don't even know when development for Days Gone actually started but it didn't go into full production until 2015
So you accept that their last game was complete in Jan 2012 and full production wasn't until 2015. 35 months
Do you believe for these 3 years all the 80+ employees worked for free?
Media Molecule has released 4 games since 2008, he just doesn't like that studios are given time to work on their projects I guess.
3 games and 1 port. Or 3 games from 2008-2012....one was a new IP.
Vs 0 games from 2012-2018
50 % more time, infinitely less games.
