Edge : PS4 is 50 percent faster

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Top selling console (360) not even 100k. But 3DS is still breaking 6 digits. Minecraft still selling well. Payday 2? Didn't see that coming. Taken from GAF....

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Sales:
3.) Disney Infinity (360, Wii, PS3, NWU, 3DS): 294K

Note: Splinter Cell is #4, so it's below 294K. Conviction opened at 486.1K on Xbox 360 back in April 2010.

Nintendo August Sales (Digital + Physical):
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team: 190,000 [Bowser's Inside Story did 258.1K and then later exploded into super sales. Will be an interesting one to track.]
Pikmin 3: 115,000

Nintendo Wii U LTD (Digital + Physical):
New Super Luigi U: 120,000

Nintendo 2013 3DS LTDs (Digital + Physical):
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (863,000)
Animal Crossing: New Leaf (739,000)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 (406,000 in 2013, 1.85 million total)
Fire Emblem Awakening (390,000)
Mario Kart 7 (352,000 in 2013, 2.84 million total)
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity (298,000)
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D (268,000)
Super Mario 3D Land (265,000 in 2013, 2.86 million total)
LEGO City Undercover: The Chase Begins (264,000)

Hardware:
3DS: Higher than the 360.
Xbox 360: 96K (-50.3%) [Best Selling Console]

MS PR:
August NPD – Xbox 360 Hits 32 Consecutive Months as #1 console in the U.S.

August 2013 NPD highlights:

Total retail spend on the Xbox 360 platform in August (hardware, software and accessories) reached $213 million, the most for any console in the U.S. (Source: NPD Group, August 2013)

During the month of August, Xbox 360 held six of the top 10 console game titles including: “Saints Row IV,” “Madden NFL 25,” “Payday 2,” “Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell: Blacklist,” “Minecraft” and “Disney Infinity.” (Source: NPD Group, August 2013)
Looking ahead to the launch of Xbox One, we recently announced it will be available Nov. 22, 2013 in 13 markets – Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, New Zealand, Spain, UK, and USA. Thanks to the tremendous interest and support from our fans, after 12 weeks on the market, pre-order sales of Xbox One are still trending as double that of Xbox 360 during the same time period. As a result of this incredible demand, a limited number of additional Xbox One Day One consoles are now available for pre-order.

As Yusuf Mehdi, Xbox corporate vice president of marketing, strategy and business development, mentioned last week, Xbox One is proving to be the best place for games, with our exclusive titles winning over 100 awards at E3 and driving pre-order increases of 200 percent in European markets after gamers first played our blockbuster line-up at gamescom—And we look forward to showing off more of these incredible gaming experiences on the show floor at the Tokyo Game Show next week.

We will continue to share more details on Xbox One in the coming months. Be sure to check out Xbox Wire for the latest Xbox One and Xbox 360 news.
 
Gotta love how they end the article with all the reasons why the games will be the same :laugh:, but an article like that with such comments and no sources is worthless.
 
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menace-uk- said:
Gotta love how they end the article with all the reasons why the games will be the same :laugh:, but an article like that with such comments and no sources is worthless.
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Yeah. Id agree. Since when did journalism become crediting unnamed sources to publish something serious like this
 
D-V-ANT said:
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Yeah. Id agree. Since when did journalism become crediting unnamed sources to publish something serious like this
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No such thing as gaming Journalism anymore dude. Just a bunch of people spouting off random crap to get those site hits.
 
Should probably move this to the "Fanboy tickle fight"...we know how this thread will end in the Xbox forum.
Besides, the PS4 being more powerful is a given. Accept that fact and move on. Enjoy the XboxOne exclusives.
 
MR SCHULTZ said:
Should probably move this to the "Fanboy tickle fight"...we know how this thread will end in the Xbox forum.
Besides, the PS4 being more powerful is a given. Accept that fact and move on. Enjoy the XboxOne exclusives.
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Would disagree with it being moved personally as I think this article deserves it's own topic.

If you had read my post properly I didn't say the edge article was right or wrong,I questioned their journalistic integrity.
I also didn't say that i don't think the ps4 is more powerful . It is more powerful but I wholly disagree with this 50 percent bulls***.
 
D-V-ANT said:
Would disagree with it being moved personally as I think this article deserves it's own topic.

If you had read my post properly I didn't say the edge article was right or wrong,I questioned their journalistic integrity.
I also didn't say that i don't think the ps4 is more powerful . It is more powerful but I wholly disagree with this 50 percent bulls***.
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It is an irrelevant number any way. 50% more power on paper and specs won't translate in to that amount with in an actual game, and if the difference really is 50% in game then that would make the specs around 100-150% more. Which they simply aren't. This is a gaming froum though so watch nonsense snowball and the typical folks running full bore with it.
 
Edge lol, the same publisher who said the Xbox will be the next Dreamcast back in the day. Also stated their bias towards PS4 publically.
 
TheGeneral said:
Edge lol, the same publisher who said the Xbox will be the next Dreamcast back in the day. Also stated their bias towards PS4 publically.
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Yeah. They are notoriously biased. I really wish some other outlet would publicly call them on this article, and ask them to name these sources.
 
Proof is in the pudding and both brands taste the same thus far.
 
Our contacts have told us that memory reads on PS4 are 40-50 per cent quicker than Xbox One, and its ALU (Arithmetic Logic Unit) is around 50 per cent faster. One basic example we were given suggested that without optimisation for either console, a platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at “20-something” FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One. “Xbox One is weaker and it’s a pain to use its ESRAM,” concluded one developer.
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That's waaaaaay worse than I though it would be. I figured it was just the tflop difference, but all this other stuff is just ridiculous. I guess Astro had me in an information fog.
 
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I dont see 50% difference in the games between PS4 and X1 at all. Actually both look about the same. Someone is seriouly running with paper specs to hide what our eyes are seeing.
 
The games do not look too much different to me right now, I hope this is an exaggeration on the power difference.
 
GeorgeSoros said:
That's waaaaaay worse than I though it would be. I figured it was just the tflop difference, but all this other stuff is just ridiculous. I guess Astro had me in an information fog.
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Remember that their contacts remain 'anonymous', which to me just means 'we want to write BS for the page clicks', so how true this is for every game/dev is what we have to wait and see. Some of these recent reports coming out saying stuff about these advantages have been indie devs with a Sony background, I wouldn't say that their experience will be the same as a AAA studios experience either.
 
SevenDead1ySinz said:
Sounds awfully like the GAF post sources are...the GAF thread lol
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NeoGAF discussion is no nuttier than what's been posted recently at TXB by certain figures.
An individual who posts entire walls of text comes to mind.
Anyway, there seems to be a lot of famous gaming figures posting there...even Major Nelson now.
I don't believe Major Nelson ever posted at TXB, although I don't know for sure.
 
MR SCHULTZ said:
NeoGAF discussion is no nuttier than what's been posted recently at TXB by certain figures.
An individual who posts entire walls of text comes to mind.
Anyway, there seems to be a lot of famous gaming figures posting there...even Major Nelson now.
I don't believe Major Nelson ever posted at TXB, although I don't know for sure.
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Yeah a lot of industry people post there, but lately they have gone almost completely Sony and ban anyone (other than notable members) that doesn't share their view.
 
SMH, at people that keep talking about the games. Dead Rising 3 was running at 10-15 fps per second. There was a lot of smoke and mirrors going on at e3. I wouldn't be surprised to see some downgrades. I have yet to see a single screenshot of the XB1/PS4 version of a single multiplatform game. It's very strange.
 
Why do I get this feeling that come launch day, we are finally going to be able to scrutinize the games side by side, and probably going to find out that games on XB1 are running the same and better. Based on what I have seen from demos, I think this is going to be the case and then all those whack jobs concerned about "specs" are gonna go WTF??

I base this off of Sonys past marketing strategies, and the fact that its already happened before!

I'm calling it now... Remember this post!
 
SevenDead1ySinz said:
Yeah a lot of industry people post there, but lately they have gone almost completely Sony and ban anyone (other than notable members) that doesn't share their view.
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It also seems like theyre banning at a rampant pace to drive away long time Xbox owners. The place is great for news but gaming opinions there are seriously curved towards Sony. So much so that the mods are allowing way too much trolling now since the Feb. X1 reveal.
 
GeorgeSoros said:
SMH, at people that keep talking about the games. Dead Rising 3 was running at 10-15 fps per second. There was a lot of smoke and mirrors going on at e3. I wouldn't be surprised to see some downgrades. I have yet to see a single screenshot of the XB1/PS4 version of a single multiplatform game. It's very strange.
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I think I read something that the framerate issues in DR3 were resolved and they were at 30fps now, but can't remember where I read it (somewhere on the old forum most likely)

markis5150 said:
It also seems like theyre banning at a rampant pace to drive away long time Xbox owners. The place is great for news but gaming opinions there are seriously curved towards Sony. So much so that the mods are allowing way too much trolling now since the Feb. X1 reveal.
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Doesn't help that the admins/owners are pro-Sony/anti-MS, they even have 'Believe' in their logo lol a little bit too Sony imo.
 
SevenDead1ySinz said:
I think I read something that the framerate issues in DR3 were resolved and they were at 30fps now, but can't remember where I read it (somewhere on the old forum most likely)



Doesn't help that the admins/owners are pro-Sony/anti-MS, they even have 'Believe' in their logo lol a little bit too Sony imo.
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Heh. Yeah i always noticed that. But then for years its always been a Sony site,but it was never this blatant as it is now. I remember so many were hating on Halo and PGR back in 2001. Those were amazing launch games but even back then you had a feeling things were not on the up and up there. Now they dont even hide it. Anyways enough of that place. So glad i found team xbox. The move here is great. Looking frward to listening in on day one purchasers opinions on software in the PS4 forum. Or just talking about those games there without having a Gaf like mob dog pile on you for not looking at the games with Sony glasses. I think both consoles launching so close makes it exciting for both sides.
 
Yeah DR3 looks much smoother from the recent builds.

I like crazy rumors for fun, but these 'spec wars' are tiresome, especially considering no one has final numbers for either system. The Edge article even states the silicon was only finalized recently.
I read somewhere that Pinello will have a 'deep dive' into the tech next week, so I hope that happens.
And I think Menace summed it all up perfectly. Besides, if the PS 4 were really that much faster/better, we'd see those differences in launch titles.
I also can't wait to see finalized,side by side comparisons of cross-plats like BF4. When it is shown that it looks the same I hope some of these arguments can finally come to an end.
 
Rollins said:
Besides, if the PS 4 were really that much faster/better, we'd see those differences in launch titles.
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But you can. What it takes Forza 60 frames to do in a second, Drive Club can do in just 30 frames. That's power, baby! :banana::crazy:o_O

10 weeks until launch, and we'll get to see if this is the generation where the paper specs finally win the war.
 
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