Forbes article on PS4 and cross-play

I don't want my PS account connected to XBL.
Want cross play but this is a issue for me.
Don't mind it on lesser MP formats like the Switch.
 
BDaddyK said:
No one's talking about connecting/merging accounts.
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I think that was one of the issues Sony had wasn't it?

MS wanted all Minecraft players to have an XBL account. I think I read it somewhere, but that may just be in my head.

That seems kinda shifty, IMO.
 
Bellybama said:
But wouldn't the advertisement look worse, with "Cross play unavailable only on PS4"?

And you keep talking as if the player base of the PS4 is the biggest drawcard that the game has going for it. It would probably sell a few million on a the PS4...

There are already 122 million copies of the game out there, with every tablet, PC, Xbox, and soon to be Nintendo able to play together.

It's not some super exclusive club. And by denying players the chance to play with their mates from the existing 122million people already attached to the community, are they more likely to buy the PS4 version, or just get the iPad/android version, and use Skype in the background?

It's not like it's beneficial for Sony financially. It's a move based on depriving their customers, and the competition.

Again, I'd never use the feature, but when I have clients come into work with their kids, so many of them plonk down on the couch, and play Minecraft while chatting away with their mates on their phones/Skype. I honestly figured the Minecraft fad would have ended years ago.

Anyway, it's obvious that we're never going to agree on this.
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PlayStation Network works with everything else except Nintendo and Microsoft servers. How can you possibly advertise or take advantage of anything if it, too, works on the other platform but remains exclusive to only that platform? You can't...

You are speaking of one or two games when in reality it would be a standard across ALL online games if Sony jumped aboard. Why do you think a number of developers have already cease production on the feature in their games all together? You're not looking at the bigger picture here. Things have to start off small before they can ever become massive.
 
pravus said:
Shawn, I'm not sure if you play any games online but the difference in consoles sold is not directly reflected in game population at all. There's more players in some games, but not to a significant amount where it would even register in matchmaking search time. In regards to online, you're overselling the difference between XBO/PS4.
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Absolutely correct, you are. However, based on the number of consoles sold, the online attach rate can be factored into a ballpark figure, which is rather vast, for the PlayStation platform. That's a lot of users. Then you have to look at the number of THOSE users that will be interested in that particular game. This is how games and exclusive deals are bargained upon.
 
Shawn Jelsic said:
PlayStation Network works with everything else except Nintendo and Microsoft servers. How can you possibly advertise or take advantage of anything if it, too, works on the other platform but remains exclusive to only that platform? You can't...
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'Crossplay available on all platforms*

*Excluding Sony PlayStation consoles'

Literally took me a second to think of that.

And I think the definitions of crossplay for Minecraft may have shifted more than you're expecting. How is someone that is android, who is playing with his Xbox and Nintendo mates, also playing with his Sony mates?

PC is one thing, but calmmdown about your estemations

Shawn Jelsic said:
You are speaking of one or two games when in reality it would be a standard across ALL online games if Sony jumped aboard. Why do you think a number of developers have already cease production on the feature in their games all together? You're not looking at the bigger picture here. Things have to start off small before they can ever become massive.
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This entire paragraph, is what I find crazy.

HOW IS THAT A GOOD THING FOR GAMERS?!??!!

IT SHOULD BE A STANDARD FOR ALL GAMES, FOR GAMERS!!!

As a gamer, why shouldn't we be able to play with each other, regardless of network, IF THE ACTUAL PROGRAMING IS ALREADY DONE!

Remove console allegiance, and the fine print is all rubbish.

The developers literally have the code sitting there.

You treat every critique about the situation as if I'm personally lynching Sony.

I've said 100 times, that I wish all games were cross-play and cross-buy.

I'm a gaming communist.

Developers are shutting it down because the actual platforms won't allow it! The closest thing we've had to actual crossplay, was FFXI, when PS2 was past its swansong (and massively dated for the game) and the 360 was just gearing up. They opened their networks to Squares servers (Sony's network was rubbish at that point, and MS was largely running on luck and money)

So you tell me. Why, if not for the knowledge that Sony will have made them waste money, time, and morale, are teams shooting down this feature?

I AM NOT anti Sony. I'm anti-bulls*** justification.

Edit: Blergh. Sorry. This post is brought to you by Chardonnay Pinot Noir, Ambien, and Endone.

All I want you to honestly answer, is...

If Microsoft were denying crossplay from the competition, would you support their choice?

That is all.
 
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BDaddyK said:
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/apos-rocket-league-apos-die-150000483.html

Don't know if that has been posted already.
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"I think it was only about a month after our release, maybe less, that [Microsoft] said, 'Okay we're gonna go ahead and do it. You guys are gonna be the first [to have cross-network play]."

Dunham said that once cross-network play is available for every game — not just his own — that games with shorter lifespans (think: the yearly turnover of CoD) will naturally reverse the attrition.

He gave the example of a family where one cousin could only afford a $299 Nintendo Switch and another had the $500 Xbox One X. Both will be able to play Rocket League and Minecraft together this fall despite being wildly different pieces of hardware and technology. "That means a lot to that family. Imagine how many friends and families that'd mean a lot to."

The point I'm making isn't exclusive to Sony's decision on denying crossplay.

This point they're making is. Gamers should be entitled enough to buy a game once, and play with whatever friends they want, on any platform.

A bunch of gamers buy the exact same game multiple times, to play games with their mates on seperate networks. That's silly.

And when you consider DLC? That's double-dicked robbery.

The only reason to not allow it, from a gamers perspective, is for stupid console zealotry.
 
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Shawn Jelsic said:
ham ham hamiddity ham.
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Waaiiiit... Why is it, when I look at your previous posts, you've never once shared a gaming experience, let alone posted anything that isn't a Sony Hardware Thang?

10 pages of your comments, and not a single effort is made to comment on a possitive gaming experience, nor a post in any other forum...
 
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