General console meh talk.

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. MS started a really bad habit this gen of announcing games years before they were going to be ready

Right on. Can't wait to see new gameplay footage of Death Stranding, Shenmue, Final Fantasy VII and GT.
 
It wasn't me agreeing

And I almost close-captioned the post to illustrate the blatant sarcasm, but I figured you'd recognize that for what it was. I mean, seriously, I love Quantum Break and I don't give a half gallon of fartmist about the GTA series and even I wouldn't claim that QB is anywhere near the level of GTA in anything other than my preferences.
 
And I almost close-captioned the post to illustrate the blatant sarcasm, but I figured you'd recognize that for what it was. I mean, seriously, I love Quantum Break and I don't give a half gallon of fartmist about the GTA series and even I wouldn't claim that QB is anywhere near the level of GTA in anything other than my preferences.
GTA is huge but TRASH in my eyes.
But I hear you.... I think id rather play QB as well as QB isn't trash.
 
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That's your perspective but not mine.
PS has more players(fact) and better communities (opinion)
Not only do I like PSN/PS4 UI better but I don't like XBL/XB UI at all so this is a factor to me as well.

You've always liked anything PS more since the teamxbox days, I mix it up. I use ps4 multiplatform now(have majority since it's launch) but I used xbox 360 before, but that's changing again with scorpio.
 
You've always liked anything PS more since the teamxbox days, I mix it up. I use ps4 multiplatform now(have majority since it's launch) but I used xbox 360 before, but that's changing again with scorpio.
Nope I came to TXB because OG XB was my favorite followed by the GC that gen.
360 started as my favorite console then it became a tie and then PS3 steamrolled past it.
XBL>PSN easily but PS3 UI was better than the latter 360 UI
 
Nope I came to TXB because OG XB was my favorite followed by the GC that gen.
360 started as my favorite console then it became a tie and then PS3 steamrolled past it.
XBL>PSN easily but PS3 UI was better than the latter 360 UI

I don't ever remember you being a majority Xbox player on anything, ever, even the majority liked Xbox I remember you arguing against it in the 360 days constantly.
 
Val, my prediction for you this E3 is huge hype setup for Xbox going in, scorpio avatar already then a huge "meh, not what I hoping for" afterwards and arguing in favor of pro for everything, only pointing out negatives Scorpio/ignoring positives.
 
Val, my prediction for you this E3 is huge hype setup for Xbox going in, scorpio avatar already then a huge "meh, not what I hoping for" afterwards and arguing in favor of pro for everything, only pointing out negatives Scorpio/ignoring positives.

Water wet. Fire bad. Og blow goat.
 
I don't ever remember you being a majority Xbox player on anything, ever, even the majority liked Xbox I remember you arguing against it in the 360 days constantly.
You probably weren't there as long as me.
I used to argue with people like MW against the PS3 for example.
For example I bought and thoroughly played every Gears(including DLC) except Judgment.
PS3 started soaring ahead on the exclusive front much like today.
I was kool with XB but then start having major issues with kinect and Halo 4 was the cherry on top...when was that released? The following year I left XB due to my disgust of what XB become...very similar to this gen and XBO.
 
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Val, my prediction for you this E3 is huge hype setup for Xbox going in, scorpio avatar already then a huge "meh, not what I hoping for" afterwards and arguing in favor of pro for everything, only pointing out negatives Scorpio/ignoring positives.
Sadly this is very likely as MS has not touched Sony on the game front.
If Sony shows better games than they win its pretty simple.
If you think I won't give credit due where I THINK its NEEDED and won't be critical WHERE I THINK ITS NEEDED than you got me confused with somebody else.
Anyone who been following me knows I can be a critical SOB and no company is safe.
 
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I'm not looking for Microsoft to win list wars with Sony in the short term. Just to continue showing signs that they are committed to excellence and innovation again and will put their money where their mouth is. They're one of the few companies in this gaming business that is financially able to take big risks. I'm more interested in a couple big risky projects than a bunch of exclusives they bought off 3rd parties. That's why I'm excited for Crackdown. If Microsoft shows another one of those on the way for 2018 and eventually a pattern of keeping those in the pipeline, I'll be happy.
 
I'm not looking for Microsoft to win list wars with Sony in the short term. Just to continue showing signs that they are committed to excellence and innovation again and will put their money where their mouth is. They're one of the few companies in this gaming business that is financially able to take big risks. I'm more interested in a couple big risky projects than a bunch of exclusives they bought off 3rd parties. That's why I'm excited for Crackdown. If Microsoft shows another one of those on the way for 2018 and eventually a pattern of keeping those in the pipeline, I'll be happy.
BL3 and NG exclusive will be enough to be on my good side.
Will it be enough to beat what Sony shows? Probably not but it will make me jump back in...in more than just buying Scorpio.
 
Sadly this is very likely as MS has not touched Sony on the game front.
If Sony shows better games than they win its pretty simple.
If you think I won't give credit due where I THINK its NEEDED and won't be critical WHERE I THINK ITS NEEDED than you got me confused with somebody else.
Anyone who been following me knows I can be a critical SOB and no company is safe.

I know, but even if we prefer one company other we have to give some credit for what they are doing. Even if MS doesn't nail an original Xbox to the T, at least they seem to be improving, focusing on power and hopefully games(kinda doubt)
 
To the 3 people that own PSVR,

expect to hear a lot more about PSVR this E3. I'm pretty connected to the community and its sounding pretty good. It's our first E3, but the rumblings are very exciting.
 
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Right on. Can't wait to see new gameplay footage of Death Stranding, Shenmue, Final Fantasy VII and GT.

Not like for like comparisons but I wouldn't expect you to see it any differently. MS used to only really talk about games that were coming out before the next E3, that all changed this gen. CGI trailers announcing games like Crackdown 3 in 2014 that aren't out yet and haven't even shown anything more than a cloud based tech demo yet it's supposed to be the big holiday release this year.

Your examples also don't take into consideration that a couple of those games when announced were also said to be just beginning development, hell one of them was announcing the crowd funding goals to get the game made and another was just to announce a partnership with Kojima after he and Konami split up. As far as FF that's like holding MS responsible for cuphead, they aren't making the game and GT will be there this year and it has barely been a year and a half since it was announced.

I never said Sony isn't guilty of the same thing but most of their big games are announced and released with a 2 year period. I think most of us wish games wouldn't be announced until they are less than a year out but that's just not how any of these companies do things.
 
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To the 3 people that own PSVR,

expect to hear a lot more about PSVR this E3. I'm pretty connected to the community and its sounding pretty good. It's our first E3, but the rumblings are very exciting.
I own it but its close to being sold.

But but V is never critical of Sony. :crazy:
 
That's your perspective but not mine.
PS has more players(fact) and better communities (opinion)
Not only do I like PSN/PS4 UI better but I don't like XBL/XB UI at all so this is a factor to me as well.
PS having more players online is not fact. It's your guess.
 
Higher install base = less players online?

How does that work?

Actually PC has more players online than all of them.
Wat?
The whole higher player base comment is just pure Fanboy and silly. (Well I have to remember who we are taking a about here ) No matter what game you play on either platform or PC, you're never going to have an issue finding a game with a max player count or that's already full.
 
I recalled a few Members here posted screenshots showing that there were more players playing black ops and battlefield on the PS3 than on the 360.
 
I recalled a few Members here posted screenshots showing that there were more players playing black ops and battlefield on the PS3 than on the 360.

What's it matter though? Even if it's 10x more on one of them, I never had a problem finding games on the other.
 
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What's it matter though? Even if it's 10x more on one of them, I never had a problem finding games on the other.

All your friends are gonna make fun of you and you'll become an outcast.
 
Higher install base = less players online?

How does that work?

Actually PC has more players online than all of them.
Wat?
Sony confirmed that they have 26 million PSN + subscribers this week. How many gold subscribers are there for Xbox?
 
This thread is still going? Come on now. I thought we agreed that PS4 Pro is the best thing going in gaming. Best exclusives, best multiplats, best place to play. Sony is a place on Earth.
 
Not enough "meh" talk people!

Crackdown 3 Dev Says Xbox One X is Far More Powerful Than PS4 Pro

“We were really fortunate really, because the game was always PC and Xbox One, and we were always gonna do cross-play between PC and Xbox. So when Scorpio, or One X as it’s known now, started to become a reality we were like, ‘Well, this is just another platform really’,” Wilson said.

“And to be honest the dev tools we got were great. They pretty much allowed us to get it up and running at 4K straight away. It’s a beast, actually, that machine. It’s so much faster than the PS4 Pro. Comfortably faster, especially in terms of running things in 4K. There’s no question it’s more powerful"

http://gameranx.com/updates/id/1107...o-doubts-third-parties-will-make-use-of-this/

Dev - "PS4 Pro Is Like A 5 Year Old PC And It's Holding Developers Back"

“Do you want the honest truth? This machine is not so strong as you think. This is like a five-year-old PC. If consoles were as powerful as PCs are today, you would see all different games. Most of the work developers put out there is to make them work on consoles.”

https://techstunt.com/a-way-out-dev...ld-pc-and-its-really-holding-developers-back/

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So not only do you LIE and post this BS here...you go on other forums and do the same thing.
The plastic hate is real :crazy: I would seek help if I were you.

ORIGINAL article said "PS4 is like a 5 years old PC and it’s really holding developers back"



Crackdown looks like a XBO launch title so those devs need not to speak.
 
I am surprised at how console-war oriented this forum is. I'm not sure why that is. Not that I don't participate, and not that it isn't fun occasionally. I'm just saying, we have an awful lot of console war talk here, for such a small forum.

Oh well.
 
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