Las Vegas Shooting

The idea that the 2nd amendment is some sort of magic defense against any and all gun laws is simply false. It is so broadly accepted because the gun lobby works hard to pretend that we actually hold other parts of the constitution to such lofty standards.

There are a lot of people who seem to hold half of the second Amendment as the only real part of the Constitution (well, except in many sad cases, the three-fifths compromise).

But, yeah, there's damn sure room for regulation. You can't go into any gun store and buy a nuclear weapon, or a howitzer, or a cannon, for example. Finding the right place to draw the line is what an adult country would do, rather than preempt every attempt to discuss it with "The liberal gubmint is coming to take your guns and turn your daughters into gay muslims."

[edit: you can actually own a cannon and presumably a howitzer, but it's pretty strictly regulated. Feel free to just substitute sidewinder and RPG (which I assume and won't bother to research if they're legal for people to own). It's more an illustrative example anyway, but I feel like I need to point this out because the typical response of "You don't even know gun laws" will come and ignore the greater point, as is typical in non-adults.]
 
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There are a lot of people who seem to hold half of the second Amendment as the only real part of the Constitution (well, except in many sad cases, the three-fifths compromise).

But, yeah, there's damn sure room for regulation. You can't go into any gun store and buy a nuclear weapon, or a howitzer, or a cannon, for example. Finding the right place to draw the line is what an adult country would do, rather than preempt every attempt to discuss it with "The liberal gubmint is coming to take your guns and turn your daughters into gay muslims."
Crazy thing is that most Americans want stricter gun control laws. So who is congress actually representing here?
 
There are a lot of people who seem to hold half of the second Amendment as the only real part of the Constitution (well, except in many sad cases, the three-fifths compromise).

But, yeah, there's damn sure room for regulation. You can't go into any gun store and buy a nuclear weapon, or a howitzer, or a cannon, for example. Finding the right place to draw the line is what an adult country would do, rather than preempt every attempt to discuss it with "The liberal gubmint is coming to take your guns and turn your daughters into gay muslims."

Yep, that's how they've been so effective on issues like this. Make every issue into a black and white extreme case. Compromise isn't even an option. That's why they don't try to make logical arguments, they attack the other side. That's why they are so big on labels. Trump's talking points include Chicago. Why? This terrible event has nothing to do with crime.
 
What's scary is that if everything he did in preparation was completely legal, and the authorities had no knowledge of him amassing his arsenal, then anyone can do this.
 
It's great that we have so many gun experts here. How many of you have actually used a slidefire stock?
 
What's scary is that if everything he did in preparation was completely legal, and the authorities had no knowledge of him amassing his arsenal, then anyone can do this.

But if everyone else is armed as well then there is nothing to worry about ?

Right?

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r/the_donald before

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And after

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Those can't be real people. Nobody's that dumb.

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I’m not saying this is the only cause, as he was amassing weapons well before this, but as I already said, psych meds are almost always involved in these things:

As detailed on PsychDrugShooters.com, over 100 mass shooting events have been carried out by people who are taking psychiatric medications.

“Stephen Paddock, who killed at least 58 people and wounded hundreds more in Las Vegas on Sunday with high-powered rifles, was prescribed an anti-anxiety drug in June that can lead to aggressive behavior,” reports the Las Vegas Review-Journal:

Records from the Nevada Prescription Monitoring Program obtained Tuesday show Paddock was prescribed 50 10-milligram diazepam tablets by Henderson physician Dr. Steven Winkler on June 21.


Diazepam is a known to promote violent behavior and psychotic episodes. Via the Las Vegas Review-Journal:

“If somebody has an underlying aggression problem and you sedate them with that drug, they can become aggressive,” said Dr. Mel Pohl, chief medical officer of the Las Vegas Recovery Center. “It can disinhibit an underlying emotional state. … It is much like what happens when you give alcohol to some people … they become aggressive instead of going to sleep.”

Pohl, who spoke to the Review-Journal from the Netherlands, said the effects of the drug also can be magnified by alcohol.

A 2015 study published in World Psychiatry of 960 Finnish adults and teens convicted of homicide showed that their odds of killing were 45 percent higher during time periods when they were on benzodiazepines.’
 
It's great that we have so many gun experts here. How many of you have actually used a slidefire stock?

I've been messing with guns for nearly 35 years and never even heard of these bump stocks until this incident.
 
I've been messing with guns for nearly 35 years and never even heard of these bump stocks until this incident.
I had seen them before but assumed they were illegal. My interpretation of the laws was that anything that modified the the rate of fire to automatic was illegal.
They can ban these all they want but just looking at them I can tell you they can be easily 3-d printed.
 
I had seen them before but assumed they were illegal. My interpretation of the laws was that anything that modified the the rate of fire to automatic was illegal.
They can ban these all they want but just looking at them I can tell you they can be easily 3-d printed.
I never even thought of anything like that.

They were primarily for military until recent years.

From youtube videos, they don't look like something that would be accurate enough to want to use when the military has access to basically everything to begin with.
 
I never even thought of anything like that.



From youtube videos, they don't look like something that would be accurate enough to want to use when the military has access to basically everything to begin with.

Military guns are not the most accurate guns.
 
The officials are changing the narrative...security guard didn't stop the shooting. Guard was shot BEFORE the shooting. This entire investigation is FUBAR.