I really hope they do deliver something impressive this E3. I feel like I've heard similar promises building up to the last three E3's, only to come away underwhelmed. Maybe 4th time is the charm.
I really hope they do deliver something impressive this E3. I feel like I've heard similar promises building up to the last three E3's, only to come away underwhelmed. Maybe 4th time is the charm.
If they don't announce anything this E3, then there is literally no first party titles for 2019 outside of a highly likely Forza Motosport 8. There's gotta be new announces or it'd be mindblowing.
Not last year. That one insider pretty much laid it out that there wasn’t going to be much.
If they don't announce anything this E3, then there is literally no first party titles for 2019 outside of a highly likely Forza Motosport 8. There's gotta be new announces or it'd be mindblowing.
Unless they really don't want to announce games that are more than a year out. Not that that makes sense to me as two E3s for a game seems appropriate.
I really hope they do deliver something impressive this E3. I feel like I've heard similar promises building up to the last three E3's, only to come away underwhelmed. Maybe 4th time is the charm.
I found last years E3 to be the best one for Xbox One so far. I like the fact that they did the X1X reveal before E3, and ended up literally making E3 about games. I mean, it was literally an onslaught of games. No TV TV TV, no Kinect, no dancers, no singers. It was AAA titles, indie titles, BC titles and demos. That is exactly what I want to see at E3. In fact, I think they went like 15 or 20 minutes over to get as many games in as he could, but still had to leave some out.
Yeah I know of ZERO for 2019.Yeah, last year was a step above some of the low points of previous conferences, for sure. But it was still a so-so showing of known exclusives and lots of indies with asterisks. I'm not saying "indies don't count," but when we talk about bringing something big to the table, we're generally talking about new, unexpected, full-sized games you can't get anywhere else. If all they do they do this year is what they did last year, they're going to get a very chilly reception (at least from people who aren't the Xbox core).
But like pravus was saying, they have to announce something. Their calendar is nearly empty at this point.
Shinobi? Yeah, he was right, but I was thinking more of the hype coming from MS and/or the Xbox fans. Seems like there have been several cycles of "there will be big things at this year's E3" followed by "um, wait 'till next E3." Granted, companies and fans always hype up E3, but it's getting to the point where they really need to deliver.
I think that's right. Their calendar is pretty much clear. All the games they've announced over the past few years are going to be out (except Crackdown?). They have to announce some new stuff.
I think they need to break that rule. Hell, they already break that rule. Announcing a couple years early does not hurt anything. It helps people have confidence that great games are in the pipeline.
They need to expand their studios from other countries. They should go and get a Korean based developers and make RPG games that will go against the Japanese counterparts.
what will make MS a big standout and impress all? Can they get away with a new forza, halo & gears along with a reboot of say fable and perfect dark?
or would they need fresh new ip'
we are expecting big things so im not sure what will be enough.
id be happy with the forza, gears halo along with 2 reboots and a new iP or 2 new IP and a reboot.
whats clear is they need to give us a roadmap to end 2019.
megaton would be a new shining force, phantasy star or panzer dragoon game from sega
They need to expand their studios from other countries. They should go and get a Korean based developers and make RPG games that will go against the Japanese counterparts.
Besides that, I just think MS is going to get hate no matter how well they do. 2013 is still within them till the next console.
I also believe that this Gen MS lost far more in money wise then SONY ps3.
I also believe that this Gen MS lost far more in money wise then SONY ps3.
Besides that, I just think MS is going to get hate no matter how well they do. 2013 is still within them till the next console.
2013 and all of suddenly the ps4 is doing super ONLY because MS did (just like SONY did) terrible launch.
Some people jump ships some can't do it because of the money they already invested on the only network.
SONY had none coming from the ps3 era and got most of their online network figured out. Let's not get confuse that PSN is better then Xbox live.
But once people start putting money on their network is will be hard to get them to jump back and this is where I think that battle is a bigger lost on MS then SONY.
I don't want ME to try to be like SONY with these single player games because I will never buy them unless they are $20 Or less because of the replay value is still to low.
This is true.Sony lost $7 billion and forced them to recede from other lucrative markets due to cashflow (CPU design,laptops, Spiderman merchandise)
Theres no great reason to suggest Xbox made a loss this gen. The 360 broke even by the end of 2011 and 2012-2013 were profitable and so would have eaten into OG Xbox losses.
The Xbox One was not sold at a loss when it launched, likely wasn't when they dropped the Kinect and isnt now.
The biggest overspend into the red was the purchase of Minecraft...something which will pay for itself several times over in the mid-run.
Xbox's biggest loss outside of marketshare was the closure of Lionhead and less Fable this gen...and now its coming back.
Oh i agree. What Microsoft announces at E3 will definitly have people fuming for all the wrong reasons. Whether its spin-offs of existing IP, new IP, resurrecting old IP we haven't seen in decades or just plain straight good sequels.
It will all be 'wrong' for some reason.
I agree MS could really use some big 1st party games. The Fable reboot and the ‘not so secret’ PD remake (if it’s real) will be a good start, hopefully.
But would new IPs sell systems? Hard to say. Zelda got me to buy a Switch (totally worth it!), but it’s an established game with a huge fan base.
And honestly, isn’t this subject just another ‘thing?’ In 2013 Sony specifically stated ‘1080p allows you to be a better gamer!’, and that’s all we heard about.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-native-1080p-allows-you-to-be-a-better-gamer/1100-6416145/
Now that MS has the resolution advantage, the criticism shifts to 1st party SP games.
Shocking.
Even if MS announces a bunch of 1st party SP games at E3, the criticism will shift to something else.
I have all 3 systems, and I love Sony and Nintendo’s first party SP games. But after I finish the games, the systems collect dust. I won’t even buy new SP games on day 1 anymore because 3-4 weeks after launch they are on EBay for 30% less.
I wish I could see some hard numbers for how much total money a game brings in in its lifetime, beyond initial sales. Obviously GTA is on a whole different level, but I wonder if a game like Halo 5 is still making money..?
I agree MS could really use some big 1st party games. The Fable reboot and the ‘not so secret’ PD remake (if it’s real) will be a good start, hopefully.
But would new IPs sell systems? Hard to say. Zelda got me to buy a Switch (totally worth it!), but it’s an established game with a huge fan base.
And honestly, isn’t this subject just another ‘thing?’ In 2013 Sony specifically stated ‘1080p allows you to be a better gamer!’, and that’s all we heard about.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-native-1080p-allows-you-to-be-a-better-gamer/1100-6416145/
Now that MS has the resolution advantage, the criticism shifts to 1st party SP games.
Shocking.
Even if MS announces a bunch of 1st party SP games at E3, the criticism will shift to something else.
I have all 3 systems, and I love Sony and Nintendo’s first party SP games. But after I finish the games, the systems collect dust. I won’t even buy new SP games on day 1 anymore because 3-4 weeks after launch they are on EBay for 30% less.
I wish I could see some hard numbers for how much total money a game brings in in its lifetime, beyond initial sales. Obviously GTA is on a whole different level, but I wonder if a game like Halo 5 is still making money..?
I agree MS could really use some big 1st party games. The Fable reboot and the ‘not so secret’ PD remake (if it’s real) will be a good start, hopefully.
But would new IPs sell systems? Hard to say.
And honestly, isn’t this subject just another ‘thing?’ In 2013 Sony specifically stated ‘1080p allows you to be a better gamer!’, and that’s all we heard about.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-native-1080p-allows-you-to-be-a-better-gamer/1100-6416145/
Now that MS has the resolution advantage, the criticism shifts to 1st party SP games.
New IPs alone won't sell systems. We've seen that. MS has put out new IPs, but most of them have been average. To be a system seller, an exclusive has to be excellent. And it's better to have a stable of them, not just one or two. Having excellent exclusives (or new IPs) is not the only factor, of course. There are many factors. But it's one.
I don't see it that way. First of all, it's not a new criticism. It goes back to 2010 or 2011. I know, because I left Xbox over this issue, and I did it 6 or 7 years ago. So, this is not some recent shift in the winds. It is a criticism and a problem that goes back many years.
Second, the lack of great exclusives is not on the same level as issues like power or price. Games are fundamental to this hobby/business. It's a false equivalency, to say that fanboys are substituting in exclusive games because other things (e.g., power) don't hold water anymore. A lack of great new exclusive games is a big, fundamental problem. It doesn't get much more fundamental than that.
From my perspective, what has happened is that, things have gotten crossed off the anti-Xbox blackboard, one by one (and some positives have been added). There is still one big, fundamental problem remaining on that blackboard, and it is a stable of excellent exclusive games (with a few new ones mixed with the old). You can't dismiss or ignore that problem by pretending it's just fickle fanboys doing their thing. That's partly true of course -- fanboys will fanboy. But the lack of great exclusives is a fundamental problem for Xbox, and it's not going away until MS solves it.
100% agree! MS is the cause of their own issues, it's not just Sony fanboys complaining, if MS did the right things they'd attract new buyers from a broader audience and they'd be closer to the leader in sales instead of running at about half as much.
MS far too often seems like a software and service company that is just using the xbox as a way to try to funnel more people into buying their services instead a gaming company that offers additional services on the side. While that may be exactly what they are and what they are doing they should find a better way to balance it so it's not as obvious.
When I got my One X I couldn't believe that I couldn't share pics directly from my console to twitter the way I could on my PS4 Pro, it would just send a link to an xbox page with the picture, that or upload it to OneDrive which is a service that offers optional benefits if you pay a fee. It seems that they are finally going to fix that soon but it NEVER should have been done that way to begin with. I'm just using that as an example of a broader issue, sharing being an afterthought with the console isn't it's biggest problem.
To the main topic at point. Sony will always have a single generational gap ahead of Microsoft. The obvious things are the quality of the group of studios they have.
They are allowed to keep Spider Man to themselves because Sony owns the rights.
I don’t think there is some mass bias, but I think Sony is allowed to get away with certain things that Microsoft was crucified for. The reason last gen Microsoft was labeled like this (MS). Sony has bought many exclusive timed games and dlc this gen. Destiny, Crash Bandicot, No Mans Sky, and several others.
No one batted an eye when Sony was requiring online passes for their 1st party PS3 games. If you bought it used you also needed to purchase a pass to play the rest of the game.