Mortal Kombat 11

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Better animations than every tekken ever made, although tekken have had the same animations since tekken 2 so I guess it's not really that impressive.
 
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If they're including Shao Khan, maybe Sindel will be back as both Klassic version and as a Revenant.




 

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Maybe MK11 as a project gets back to Mortal Kombat's roots a bit. As for Raiden, he quickly drifted as a character into some kind of Earthrealm guardian, but he was originally comparable to THOR who started out just have a lust for combat.

I feel Raiden has been to restrained or trying to be noble. It's time for a Savage Raiden with a more aggressive combat posture.

Consider it's highly likely the storms in Big Trouble in Little China were what probably inspired his character in the first place.

I suppose the weird thing about him is Netherrealm turned him into a Nerfed God because otherwise a God would insta-kill Mortals, but I still think they could up the Lightning Effects and recognize how that started working for THOR.






Yeah- I always thought Raiden was highly inspired by the Storms from Big Trouble on Little China. Great movie!
 

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Better animations than every tekken ever made, although tekken have had the same animations since tekken 2 so I guess it's not really that impressive.
Whaaa...? Tekken 3 saw massive improvements in animation over previous entries. After that- though, I'd agree. I still think Tekken has the better animation...
 

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You are right about tekken 3 , it got better with that game but stale after.
 
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Yeah- I always thought Raiden was highly inspired by the Storms from Big Trouble on Little China. Great movie!
I wanted them to source that movie for guest characters and just give Raiden an alternate skin

It would be reasonable to Skin Shinnok as Lopan.

Or Liu Kang as Wang.

Or Johnny Cage as Jack Burton.

Wait c'mon, this game is totally Big Trouble in Little China lol.


I swear the movie should've been directed by John Carpenter. Or if not directed, he should be on the film score.
 

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Speaking of Tekken I got Tekken 7 for Xmas (picked a cheap game because someone insisted on getting me a gift) and damn this game doesn't look very good at all. You have to have it on the Pro just to get 1080p and even then it still looks dirty and has a lot of jagged edges as well as a lot of really low levels of detail in parts of the arenas. It's sad how bad the fighting games from Japan have looked this generation.
 

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Whaaa...? Tekken 3 saw massive improvements in animation over previous entries. After that- though, I'd agree. I still think Tekken has the better animation...
Tekken has really basic animations for the most part IMO so it shouldn't be too hard to at least get those to look decent. I've never been a fan of how floaty everything is but that's just the game in general.
 

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Speaking of Tekken I got Tekken 7 for Xmas (picked a cheap game because someone insisted on getting me a gift) and damn this game doesn't look very good at all. You have to have it on the Pro just to get 1080p and even then it still looks dirty and has a lot of jagged edges as well as a lot of really low levels of detail in parts of the arenas. It's sad how bad the fighting games from Japan have looked this generation.
My general impression of Tekken 7s visuals was noisy/messy. The characters are waay over-designed...
 

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Tekken has really basic animations for the most part IMO so it shouldn't be too hard to at least get those to look decent. I've never been a fan of how floaty everything is but that's just the game in general.
For me, as always, it comes down to to key posing, and NR is still a touch stiff.
 

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I wanted them to source that movie for guest characters and just give Raiden an alternate skin

It would be reasonable to Skin Shinnok as Lopan.

Or Liu Kang as Wang.

Or Johnny Cage as Jack Burton.

Wait c'mon, this game is totally Big Trouble in Little China lol.


I swear the movie should've been directed by John Carpenter. Or if not directed, he should be on the film score.
The design is better on the Storms too, lol. Jonny Cage as Mr. Burtan would be amazing. You have Lopan come out in the wheel chair so he can have the light come out of his mouth transformation!

TWO WOMEN WITH GREEN EYES!
 
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The design is better on the Storms too, lol. Jonny Cage as Mr. Burtan would be amazing. You have Lopan come out in the wheel chair so he can have the light come out of his mouth transformation!

TWO WOMEN WITH GREEN EYES!
 

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Haven't seen Big Trouble in a long time.
 

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Haven't seen Big Trouble in a long time.
Me too. It's funny that this convo came up because I've been getting the itch to see it again recently...
 

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Finally got around to playing MK X! I am now more stoked for 11! The story mode was like a Saturday morning cartoon for "grown ups".... I LOVED IT!

After spending time with this game, I take back 90% of my qualms with the animation. All it really needs is an element of variation in the movements. It really fits the style and is very punchy (pun intended!).

There is some great, imaginative stuff in this game. So much fun and I played the whole, lengthy story mode in one sitting! And that mid-cedit scene! Raiden going on the offensive in 11!

Love this friggin' game! I just bought Injustice 2 and am super excited to see what they did with that game.

Too bad I can't play it until the fiber comes. Any day now- they installed it in my neighborhood just about a week ago... it's literally 50 feet from my house!! :smash::smash::smash:
 

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Looks very meh almost identical to X.
I bet they are still using the dated Unreal 3 engine....yawn
I just played through MKX, and these screens look like a substantial improvement. The lighting and shaders, not to mention the quality of modeling looks to be much better in MK11.
 

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Finally got around to playing MK X! I am now more stoked for 11! The story mode was like a Saturday morning cartoon for "grown ups".... I LOVED IT!

After spending time with this game, I take back 90% of my qualms with the animation. All it really needs is an element of variation in the movements. It really fits the style and is very punchy (pun intended!).

There is some great, imaginative stuff in this game. So much fun and I played the whole, lengthy story mode in one sitting! And that mid-cedit scene! Raiden going on the offensive in 11!

Love this friggin' game! I just bought Injustice 2 and am super excited to see what they did with that game.

Too bad I can't play it until the fiber comes. Any day now- they installed it in my neighborhood just about a week ago... it's literally 50 feet from my house!! :smash::smash::smash:
NRS has really stepped up their tech game since going back to 2D games, and especially so this gen. Injustice 2 is a pretty big improvement over MKX which already looked good but the faces in Injustice 2 are a huge jump from how they were done in MKX.

I'm glad you see the improved animations :) I just wish they'd do a port of the PC version of MK 2011 so we could have all of the games they've done since going back to 2D on one console.
 

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I just played through MKX, and these screens look like a substantial improvement. The lighting and shaders, not to mention the quality of modeling looks to be much better in MK11.
The 900p version?
 

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I should reinstall MKX again to get back into it a bit before this new one.
 

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Is it? It really seemed like a variable resolution or something. Wasn't bad at all. Obviously not high res, but surprisingly tolerable. Maybe the more cartoony look makes it work ok?

Some frame analysis from beyond 3d puts it at 1344/1360 x 1080p. It doesnt look to have that 900p softness to me, nor the crispness of native resolutions. I swear that the res doesn't always seem to be the same, either.
 
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I have it on Pro and One X, looks cleaner on the Pro for sure, it's not night and day because no games really are but it looks better for sure on the Pro. Funny enough the difference is bigger there than it is with Injustice 2 on the Pro and One X which actually has updates for those consoles.
 

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Sadly I won't be going to the reveal event next week :( It would basically require me to be gone from 8:00 am until sometime after 5:00 pm and being that I take care of my Mom I can't be gone that long. She's not an invalid or anything but it's supposed to rain and that would mean she'd have to try to handle our puppy in the house all day alone and she just can't do it physically.
 

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BTW this is an email "leak" that came out a while ago showing the box art, not a whole lot of spoilers in it other than someone doing one of the voices and a couple of character names but it talks about what they have planned for the event next week.
 

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Think I'll wait this time for the GOTY version with all the charecters
 

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BTW this is an email "leak" that came out a while ago showing the box art, not a whole lot of spoilers in it other than someone doing one of the voices and a couple of character names but it talks about what they have planned for the event next week.
Not sure the point of using Rousey to voice act. Maybe she is also the face and mocap, but can she act? I heard her performance in Fast and Furious was bad. Could just be script and direction, though...
 

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Not sure the point of using Rousey to voice act. Maybe she is also the face and mocap, but can she act? I heard her performance in Fast and Furious was bad. Could just be script and direction, though...
Yeah if that's actually true I don't get it either, it must be purely for marketing purposes because Tricia Helfer did a great job in MKX. I have also read that the actor who voiced Scorpion has been replaced with the guy who voices Batman in the animated shows and Injustice games, clearly he won't be doing the same voice but I do wonder how he's going to sound.
 

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Sadly I won't be going to the reveal event next week :( It would basically require me to be gone from 8:00 am until sometime after 5:00 pm and being that I take care of my Mom I can't be gone that long. She's not an invalid or anything but it's supposed to rain and that would mean she'd have to try to handle our puppy in the house all day alone and she just can't do it physically.

How big is your puppy? You could probably take it with you.