PES 2015 Discussion Thread
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Gamespot review: http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/pro-evolution-soccer-2015-review/1900-6415944/
Seems to echo a lot from the EG review, which is positive. No Bundesliga though. No Borussia Dortmund at all either
Seems to echo a lot from the EG review, which is positive. No Bundesliga though. No Borussia Dortmund at all either
This is hands down the best PES gameplay there has ever been, back to being responsive with little lag. Keepers are decisive and get the basics right (PES 2014 near post exposure, anyone?) and the passing and shooting is terrific. Defensively it still needs work, I don't think they have come close to nailing that since PES 2011.
The presentation and commentary are still awful but the action on the pitch... oh my!
Playing on 360 the graphics are sharper than last year but the replays with full LOD are a slide show at times.
The presentation and commentary are still awful but the action on the pitch... oh my!
Playing on 360 the graphics are sharper than last year but the replays with full LOD are a slide show at times.
Based on my short time with the game it still suffers from long standing issues. Movement is still robotic. Still get trapped in long animations. Still has silly little player stutters from being lightly touched. I have been playing the PC version and it does not seem as responsive as your post suggests.
The Commentary is still awful and makes matches seem so boring and dull. The One Two system is totally overpowered. Is so easy to pull off and is devastating 99% of the time. Finesse( or controlled shot) is also overpowered. I have more trouble trying to miss with it than scoring. Oh, and the controls info presentation is woeful.
Overall it does seem improved over 14 though. However, after many months of whoring FIFA I still need time to adjust.
Question: Is the physcial aspect of this game merely contextual, or do you have to do something ? do you press a button, engage with one of the sticks ? I see nothing in the tutorials or control explanations ofr it.
i have the PC version, i wish i had waited on the demo before buying lol as when i went back to the X1 version(demo) it felt alot more responsive and polished.
putting the PC version on game speed 1 kinda brings it in line but they clearly lied when they said PC version was same gameplay.
putting the PC version on game speed 1 kinda brings it in line but they clearly lied when they said PC version was same gameplay.
Standing tackle is a double tap of A (X on PS3/4) for a lunging foot in. The other physical aspects are very much contextual, the right stick use for barging and palming off players from PES2014 has been removed. In fact the physical side of the game has been toned down, so the game is very much in favour of the forwards.
Animations aren't as smooth as 2014 but I think for quicker response times, it was the right trade off.
I have had more interesting and unique things happen in the first few matches of this game than all my, albeit limited, time with FIFA over the years.
I have to dock points for Linkin Park being on the soundtrack, though.
It feels better than the PES we've seen over the last few years, and the menus are a definite improvement but it still feels sorely lacking. I have no idea what difficulty the demo was on, and I'm not very used to the game at all but I found the most effective tactic to be the one Fifa is most often criticised for: over the top through balls (LB+Y). Every single one put my player through with opposition defenders no where to be seen. The movement still feels like they can only move in 8 directions too, everything just looks a bit stiff. But, it still has the manual pass feature which is one I'd wish EA would copy for Fifa, it works so well.
Regardless of how the game actually plays though I feel it's a losing battle. Without the licenses there's not much they can do, it's a massive selling point for Fifa. Not just with teams and kits, but stadiums. Fifa 15's stadium selection is huge this year.
Regardless of how the game actually plays though I feel it's a losing battle. Without the licenses there's not much they can do, it's a massive selling point for Fifa. Not just with teams and kits, but stadiums. Fifa 15's stadium selection is huge this year.
It is embarrassingly easy on the default difficulty.
I don't think Konami are under any illusion that they will always be second place in sales. Only once has PES been on par with FIFA sales and that was around PES 6/PES 2008 and from there it was a massive decline every year as the games quality dipped.
Option files are the lifeblood of the game but for the mainstream it is too much of an extra faff. FIFA has the authenticity of full licenses that will be exclusive till the end of time.
I don't think Konami are under any illusion that they will always be second place in sales. Only once has PES been on par with FIFA sales and that was around PES 6/PES 2008 and from there it was a massive decline every year as the games quality dipped.
Option files are the lifeblood of the game but for the mainstream it is too much of an extra faff. FIFA has the authenticity of full licenses that will be exclusive till the end of time.
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It seems that Pro Evo has got into a Star Trek film cycle where every other one is good, at least from PES 2011. 2008 - 2010 were just plain bad last gen.
PES 2011 - Good. First real shake up of the series with a passing meter - felt fresh.
PES 2012 - Bad. Broken shooting and the most cheap, cheat ridden, scripted AI of any of the games.
PES 2013 - Good. Decent gameplay but they removed proper league mode.
PES 2014 - Bad. New engine but released unfinished and unresponsive.
PES 2015 - Good. The best gameplay yet.
Next year should be terrible!
PES 2011 - Good. First real shake up of the series with a passing meter - felt fresh.
PES 2012 - Bad. Broken shooting and the most cheap, cheat ridden, scripted AI of any of the games.
PES 2013 - Good. Decent gameplay but they removed proper league mode.
PES 2014 - Bad. New engine but released unfinished and unresponsive.
PES 2015 - Good. The best gameplay yet.
Next year should be terrible!
I disagree. 2011 - 2014 were all terrible.
PES 15(PC version) I need more time with, but right now is not looking good. Really not sure where all this "great gameplay" is coming from. The passing is like homing missiles. The physical stuff is joke worthy. The movement is still living in the PS2 era. The shooting, well, why are people loving this ? press the button, goal. No need for build up play, just put a ball over the top or a through ball down the side and it is a goal. This is bar far the easiest PES I have ever played. I am playing on Superstar difficulty.
Are you a FIFA man or did you like the PS2 PES games then fell off.
I always found FIFA to be mind-alteringly dull. Like being asked to paint a fence then discovering it is five miles long.
I used to be a PES man. All the way from its ISS days to the PES 6 port on 360.
I don't think the usual option file method can be used on PS4. 360 and PS3 there is usually excellent ones to choose from. Daymos is the one I get on 360, it ends up with better looking kits than FIFA, which is nuts.
I wish PES would have a "share" option like EA had with their NCAA football. You could look up a specific team who's correct uniform wasn't in the game and download the correct one.
The work the option file guys do is incredible.
The work the option file guys do is incredible.
I think people need to go back and play the PS2 games.
Those games, as good as they were at the time, really don't hold up as well as everyone thinks.
Those games, as good as they were at the time, really don't hold up as well as everyone thinks.
I totally agree. They really do not. Great for their time, but compared to now they seem very basic and archaic. Problem is, current PES is still being made with similar archaic design.
There is something about the core of the gameplay in PES that clicks with me in a way that FIFA never can. I can't really articulate what that is without sounding indistinct and pretentious. I feel more connected to the on pitch action in PES, whereas in FIFA I feel like I am manipulating well animated marionettes that perform in the same repetitive pattern each match. I don't get the same feeling of satisfaction after a nice move or goal.
See, pretentious.
See, pretentious.
nah i know exactly what you mean. pes is a lot more tactile whilst fifa is like controlling some gravity vortex. that sharp movement is is one the few and only things pes has over fifa these days
So I'm going to buy PES in 20 minutes, I'm REALLY hoping it's better than FIFA 15, I'm so sick of the way the game plays, it's the buggiest game I've every played and isn't fun anymore.
