Nice try on what?lol You brought it up every time you turned around even when no one was discussing it. You where obsessed with it.
Played Xbox One and PS4 games and ... tickle fight!
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Only Sony is still in touch with a generation that came and went. 'Bout as traditional as Thanksgiving and Easter. Um, yay?
Only MS lacks understanding of what gamers want.
Those lack luster 1st party games show this...as does kinect/tv and the same controller for another generation.
Those lack luster 1st party games show this...as does kinect/tv and the same controller for another generation.
Yuk. Yuk. Yuk....
And there went 3 more seconds wasted of my life. Cheers Hazard. Have a great life.
Gotcha. I'm guessing this also includes the mainstream media thats been shouting from the roof tops about the XO? Time, Popular Science, Rolling Stone, etc? Im sure Sony will strike a cord with those outside of gaming as well. Not this year, maybe not even next. But just you watch! It'll happen. You'll see! Said every Sony gamer since the beginning.
Pffft. Get over it.
You know, it's kind of funny how once Astro came back, all hell broke loose and this became the tickle thread 2.0. 
Yuk. Yuk. Yuk....
And there went 3 more seconds wasted of my life. Cheers Hazard. Have a great life.
As if you had other things to do.
Why would people be happy about microsoft being recognized by time, popular science rolling stone, etc. Didn't kinect get the same recognition and then everybody realized it was garbage lol.
Then there is nintendo that received the same accolades in 2006 and well, we know how quickly their buzz tanked and now have little respect from gamers nor that demographic haha.
Then there is nintendo that received the same accolades in 2006 and well, we know how quickly their buzz tanked and now have little respect from gamers nor that demographic haha.
Actually I do. Quite a bit. You know. I've never really appreciated your posts either. Thank goodness for the ignore feature. Cheers mate.
Beautiful thing about revisionist history? It's EASILY disproven.
Here are my posts about the differences from next generation.
Feb 9th 2013 - PS4 vs 720 DF spec comparison/analysis thread
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June 22nd 2013 - HAS MICROSOFT confirmed XBO RAM SPECS???
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August 26th 2013 - The Xbox One Thread
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Sept 8th 2013 - The Xbox One Thread
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Sept 9 2013 - The Xbox One Thread
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Anymore of your BS hyperbolic revisionist history you want me to debunk? My stance has always remained constant. I have always asserted that the differences would be small but there would be differences and the PS4 was going to perform better. Anything else has been BS peddled by you to muddy the argument to cover the inane amount of BS you've spouted since the beginning of this year. Try that revisionist history on someone who has horrible memory; because it's not going to work on me.
And since we're on the subject of bulls*** statements based on absolutely nothing. How did that 100% efficiency at close to all times, while PS4 runs at 73% efficiency turn out? How did that 2GHz CPU/1GHz GPU clockrate turn out? How did that 1.6TFLOP GPU turn out? How did that 1 generation beyond hardware available to consumers turn out? I specifically remember making a post about how your fanfiction wasn't going to pan out based on how much power consumption and thermal output of desktop GPUs had increased since 2005/2006. You utterly dismissed it with your hallow argument of "history says" BS; and before you even say "herp derp I never said teh histories or trendz, you make up lies!"
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A expectation that is completely logical and factual based on power consumption and thermal output of desktop GPUs over the years. And when did the AMD 7 series come out?…Jan of 2012.
Your insane speculation based on absolutely nothing but teh trendz and history!
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Surely a more souped up card that's more powerful than a 680GTX/780GTX can run BF4 higher than a meager 1280x720 on less than ultra settings.
Maybe DICE forgot to use that 100% efficiency efficiently lol right. Or alternatively we can play to your delusions that DICE/developers in general decide not to hit 1080p not because of power reasons, but it's an developer decision to focus on more quality pixels (whatever the hell that copywriter loaded statement even means). Which is it? on one hand you state this, but then on the other hand you state it's because tools are immature, they're still struggling/learning eSRAM (the backtrack on this is hilarious given the fact you adamantly dismissed the notion that developers were struggling with eSRAM because "years of programming knowledge from Xbox 360 titles!)
Ketto just went for the knock out.
Let's do a 10 count and see if he gets up. 1... 2... 3...
10!
Let's do a 10 count and see if he gets up. 1... 2... 3...
10!
Yep. He certainly didn't do much to contribute to the thread, other than saying what i said was bulls*** and other gibberish. Next time i will think twice before creating a thread like this.
More name calling from the usual suspects. Yesterday was a long day. Albeit a good one, but long. So my apologies for sayng some of the things I said if I'd offended any one. However, lets not get into any name calling here. Penguinpig. I'm far from an idiot. I'm actually a very successful entrepreneur (business owner), a published author (who's first book has just gone international by the way, and working on my second....) better looking than you, well off, entertainment industry professional, quite famous and best of all, happily married. So enough with the name calling or I'll have to report your immature behavior to the mods. Surely we can have a conversation or debate without stumbling so low? At least I can. If its a challenge for you.......then that would be par for the course of the internets in general.
However, I should not have to suffer coming to one of my favorite forums that I've enjoyed immensely (save one or two posters) and have to deal with someone with such low standards. I dont surround myself with people like that in my life. I wont deal with it here, even if it is just a forum for gaming. Nuff said.
I stand on my own merit and always have. I've made a name for myself here (Thats a good thing for some, and not so good with others) without riding the coat tails of anyone else, just as I have in my life and career. Just because I agree with Astro, doesnt mean anything other than I just agree.
That being said; I do remember many here from TXB who actually believed there would be a significant advantage in visual fidelity between both systems. The reason I remember this is because I can remember everyone's response from the first Microsoft reveal. Since that time many believed the XO would be all about TV and not games. Not to mention how many assumed that Microsoft simply made gaming a second priority and gimped the hardware when compared to the Ps4 for the television and Kinect integration. In fact, its that same mentality that's spread everywhere now hence, why so many have a hard time believing that the XO is just as competent at gaming as it is with entertainment.
This is precisely why such meaningless debates are held over resolutions and such when in reality the differences arent anything to write home about. Truth of it, the only reason the Ps4 gets the nod for being most powerful is because its marketed as a pure gamers console with more traditional architecture. But in order to come to that conclusion, we literally have to sweep everything else the XO does well under the rug, and simply compare the gaming side. Yet, when we add in Kinect and the entertainment side of the XO along with the gaming aspects, the XO is the more powerful system but so many are afraid of Sony permanently losing their crown, they simply refuse to compare each system pound for pound.
I'm not going to Google anything to prove anything but there are those of us who remember the conversations on TXB, and those who believed and stated that the Ps4 would be undoubtedly more powerful and that there would be indisputable evidence to prove as much. Bottom line ladies and gentleman, we are still waiting. Par for the course with Sony.
Sorry for the long rant. Genuinely.
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f*** sakes....
This thread is just filled with garbage. No. We dont need a tickle thread.....AT ALL. This entire thread has turned into a hot mess.
Truth of it Anderson, I dont know how anyone else feels about it, but the Union was much better off without tickle threads. Its actually been quite nice just keeping things debatable on the Sony side and the Xbox side. A tickle thread to me at least, seems more of a downgrade for this forum now. I personally enjoy the better standards.
It's been a mess for a long time now. People wanted it kept open. Apparently there was a pent-up need for a fanboy squabble, airing of grievances, etc.
Another mod can close it if they like. I'm trying to be responsive to feedback that I am too quick on the trigger when it comes to closing threads.
I agree that it brings the level of discourse down, but maybe people feel the need to bring it down -- to get into arguments, to let off steam, to let their fanboy flag fly, or whatever. So maybe it serves a purpose. It's been going on in several places, not just this thread.
Another mod can close it if they like. I'm trying to be responsive to feedback that I am too quick on the trigger when it comes to closing threads.
I agree that it brings the level of discourse down, but maybe people feel the need to bring it down -- to get into arguments, to let off steam, to let their fanboy flag fly, or whatever. So maybe it serves a purpose. It's been going on in several places, not just this thread.
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All of this stated, I'm done with this nonsense. In 9 months these threads will still continue to pop up and the same people who don't care will be the same ones in the next comparison thread trying to pretend to be neutral and whatnot, all the while rowing that company line over and over again. Old PS3 fans will cheer at their visual victories, old 360 fans who use to cheer in these threads will dismiss it all and say it's all about the gameplay and bring in meaningless metrics such as: controller, kinect, party chat, achievements when they have no place in the discussion all in the name to justify their $399/499 purchase. Meanwhile PC gamers will ask the same question they've been asking for years. "You guys are fighting over this? lol"
New generation, same old crap. Have at it lovelies. Make sure Sony and MS are sending those checks, and if you're on the Sony side, make sure they clear.
That makes absolutely no sense in a thread about visuals.
New generation, same old crap. Have at it lovelies. Make sure Sony and MS are sending those checks, and if you're on the Sony side, make sure they clear.
That makes absolutely no sense in a thread about visuals.
Actually al ot of the posts in this thread in particular has nothing to do with visuals Ketto. It was originally an opinion from the OP about his experience with the Ps4 and the XO. But..........you know, the internetz and all. Enjoy.
Actually, I wasn't talking about this thread in particular because you weren't either, you stated PS4 only gets the nod as more powerful because of marketing (immediately after commenting on resolution thus it's clear we're talking about graphics here). Incorrect, PS4 gets the nod as more powerful because it has a more powerful GPU; that's kinda how it works. You then state if we add in Kinect and entertainment features XBO is more powerful, this is incorrect since none of those changes the rendering capabilities of the system. It's at this point you're clearly talking about proposed value and worth as a machine and not rendering capabilities. You've conflated two completely separate trains of thought to hedge a point. That stated, I agree that from the perspective of "getting your money's worth" one can easily make an argument for Xbox One being the better value/deal/purchase despite the price difference. Ultimately, that perception in value is up to each individual to gauge for themselves.
Just correcting you there a little mate.
So simply having a more powerful GPU is all it takes?
Look, Im no tech guru but there's gotta be more than that to this whole console war, correct? And it certainly cant be mere resolutions either. Im not sure how the XO does what it does, but its on par with the PS4 even if it doesnt have a more powerful GPU. Resolutions mean absolutely f*** all when looking at a game like RYSE, not to mention what it says about GPU's in general. Based on that, GPU isnt the be all end all for how powerful a system is. Just sayin....there's gotta be more to it than that.
I swear when I saw the footage for BF4 single player on the XO and PS4, I was blown away by both versions. Quite frankly, anyone stating any different would be severely delusional. I didnt need a DF article to tell me what I saw. But I was more impressed with the XO version as graphically it held its own very well regardless of resolutions etc. (I still prefer its look over the Ps4) The frame rate issue was non existent for me too as I didnt see them other than the framerate counter on the lower end of the screen. If that hadn't of been there, no one would even known there was a frame rate dip.
Again, I dont know how the XO does what it does but its impressive, and for some reason that is a problem for many as (based on what you've stated) a more powerful GPU = more powerful hardware.
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It's par for the course. He'll probably lay low for a few weeks as usual, and then come back and repeat his nonsense, in hopes that people forgot that he got caught in his own lies. Sad part is, that he probably believed what he was saying.
So simply having a more powerful GPU is all it takes?
Look, Im no tech guru but there's gotta be more than that to this whole console war, correct? And it certainly cant be mere resolutions either. Im not sure how the XO does what it does, but its on par with the PS4 even if it doesnt have a more powerful GPU. Resolutions mean absolutely f*** all when looking at a game like RYSE, not to mention what it says about GPU's. Based on that, GPU isnt the be all end all for how powerful a system is. Just sayin....there's gotta be more to it than that.
I swear when I saw the footage for BF4 single player on the XO and PS4, I was blown away by both versions. Quite frankly, anyone stating any different would be severely delusional. I didnt need a DF article to tell me what I saw. But I was more impressed with the XO version as graphically it held its own very well regardless of resolutions etc. (I still prefer its look over the Ps4) The frame rate issue was non existent for me too as I didnt see them other than the framerate counter on the lower end of the screen. If that hadn't of been there, no one would even known there was a frame rate dip.
Again, I dont know how the XO does what it does but its impressive, and for some reason that is a problem for many as (based on what you've stated) a more powerful GPU = more powerful hardware.
See, this is where you take things the wrong way. The XB1 has held it's own, no one is really bashing it the way you think they are. You take it to a whole other level. It's like, you claim they're equal, someone says, no, they're not....and you blow up thinking they're saying that XB1 blows.
It's not like dude. They are not equal. It doesn't mean the XB1 is bad, on the contrary, I'm sure it's pretty awesome and look forward to getting one next year. BUT, fact is, the PS4 is a bit more powerful, and we are indeed seeing the power in games and its evident via multiplatform games.
Seriously, if you think they're equal....would you then admit that PS3 and 360 were equal, and that there was no differences in those multiplat games?
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