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Who Will Win E3?


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I figured since Gamer Christmas is less than two months away (already?!) we should get a thread up and running. E3 rumors should start trickling in any day now so this will be as good of a place to talk Half Life 3 as any...
 
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It's funny, this year the two briefings I'm looking forward too most are the ones I never bothered with before, Bethesda & Ubisoft.

Bethesda supposedly has a new massive sci-fi RPG.
Ubisoft have just been on a roll the last 2 years. Looking forward to seeing Division 2.

Sony will have a fairly lowkey E3 this year, I think.
Microsoft isn't likely to be good. I expect alot of marketing deal games and nothing totally new.

Games I am looking forward/hope to see...

Battlefield 5
RDR 2
Division 2
Anthem
Cyberpunk
Bethesda RPG
Beyond Good & Evil
Death Stranding
 
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Nintendo does things pretty low key so I probably only care if they show Metroid Prime

Sony has blown their load so you can't expect much in the way of game reveals. The best you can hope for is TLOU or Death Stranding gameplay

Microsoft has nothing revealed beyond Crackdown so I can't imagine how its not their most exciting show in a long time
 
I'm not even sure I'll tune in, since E2 was such a disappointment and I don't see how a sequel fixes anything (though, of course, I don't work for Microsoft so . . .)
 
It's funny, this year the two briefings I'm looking forward too most are the ones I never bothered with before, Bethesda & Ubisoft.

Bethesda supposedly has a new massive sci-fi RPG.

Interesting. I hadn't heard that. We need more good SF RPGs.

I've already yapped about my sense of what E3 will bring in the MS thread, but to recap briefly: it'll be MS's year, their comeback year; they've got lots to spotlight (BC, hardware advantage, Gamepass) and most importantly will have at least a couple new big AAA exclusive games to announce, along with the expected. MS will have most of the excitement and momentum this year. Sony will do fine because the games in the pipeline are interesting, but it will be status quo, with nothing much new announced, just more info about games that we already know about. Nintendo isn't really on my radar.
 
If I had to put money down, I'd probably go with MS for this E3 simply bacause I think Perfect Dark and a new Halo are showing up.

On the other hand, Nintendo seems to be on fire lately and Sony always has the horses to pull out a win.

I'm excited though. There's no way we get a show as bad as last year and I still loved it.
 
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Lol

You release BC news/info during a slow news cycle. You don't waste time on that during your biggest press event of the year. No, just no.

You're not giving any reasons, just saying "no" and "lol." Weak.

You'll see; MS will have a section featuring BC, both OG and 360. It will feature things like RDR in 4K, MCC in 4K, and the OG bc titles in near-4K, along with (I expect) additional announcements. What did BigMutha say? That their BC team is their best development team this generation? What they're doing with BC is impressive and deserves attention during E3.
 
You're not giving any reasons, just saying "no" and "lol." Weak.

You'll see; MS will have a section featuring BC, both OG and 360. It will feature things like RDR in 4K, MCC in 4K, and the OG bc titles in near-4K, along with (I expect) additional announcements. What did BigMutha say? That their BC team is their best development team this generation? What they're doing with BC is impressive and deserves attention during E3.

You're simply wrong here.

People complain when E3 conferences are filled with too many indie titles. How do you think people are going to react if they "spotlight" (your word not mine) a feature they already revealed at a prior E3? People went nuts last year when Sony ended their show with a sizzle real of God of War, The Last of Us II, Days Gone, Spiderman etc. Can you imagine what would happen if MS spent time on XBox and XBox 360 games?

You announce exciting stuff on stage. Old games aren't exciting.

Either way, this is a moot point. Microsoft will never "spotlight" this on stage. At most, they mention it in passing. E3 will be a disaster if MS has to spotlight something like BC.

Won't happen.
 
You are hung up on my use of the word "spotlight"? Come on. Slow Thursday night or something? (Me too. I'm recaulking my bathtub and doing the laundry.)

What I said was not that they would spotlight BC in particular, make it center stage. What I said was that they had "plenty to spotlight" -- that is, plenty to draw attention to or brag about. I mentioned BC as being one of these things. I mentioned outstanding hardware as being another. I also mentioned Gamepass as another. I stopped there but could've mentioned other things, like improvements to other services, Play Anywhere, whatever. It was a list of things they could brag about or shine a light on. I wasn't saying they were going to make BC the center of the show. Obviously the center of the show should be new and exclusive games.

BC is a strong point, though. If you haven't noticed the buzz around RDR, you haven't been paying attention. If you haven't noticed the jubilant reception to the OG Xbox games being released in near 4K, you haven't been paying attention. If you are thinking of what they're doing as simply traditional BC, you haven't been paying attention. I'll say it one more time: what they are doing in this area is truly impressive.

And old games are exciting! If they are released in 4K. We're talking about some of the most beloved games of past generations, being effectively remastered for no additional cost. I think anyone would tell you, I'm no Xbox guy, but that is damn impressive. It sure turned my head.

Ok, enough procrastinating. Back to scraping old caulk out of the tub. Fun.
 
They are going to talk about BC on the stage. Even if it is quickly. No question about it
 

If you're trying to demonstrate how much attention you're paying, you're failing. That's an article that came out before the 1X was released. It's irrelevant to what I was discussing. I mentioned things only available on the 1X -- RDR in 4K, OG games in near 4K, and the difference between what they are doing and normal BC. None of that existed at the time this article was written.

Even putting the irrelevance aside, the article acknowledges that its data is erroneous ("That fault in the underlying data has led us to vastly underestimate total usage times for the apps and games in our usage sample..."). MS has released impressive figures on how much people actually play BC games. It's a lot.

Anyhow, the main issue is that these features I'm talking about are specific to the 1X. Even if it were accurate, the article is referencing the standard Xbox One. The X wasn't even out. So it's irrelevant to what I was talking about.

I'm not sure which is more enjoyable, this or digging out old bathtub caulk.
 
If you're trying to demonstrate how much attention you're paying, you're failing. That's an article that came out before the 1X was released. It's irrelevant to what I was discussing. I mentioned things only available on the 1X -- RDR in 4K, OG games in near 4K, and the difference between what they are doing and normal BC. None of that existed at the time this article was written.

Even putting the irrelevance aside, the article acknowledges that its data is erroneous ("That fault in the underlying data has led us to vastly underestimate total usage times for the apps and games in our usage sample..."). MS has released impressive figures on how much people actually play BC games. It's a lot.

Anyhow, the main issue is that these features I'm talking about are specific to the 1X. Even if it were accurate, the article is referencing the standard Xbox One. The X wasn't even out. So it's irrelevant to what I was talking about.

I'm not sure which is more enjoyable, this or digging out old bathtub caulk. They kind of feel the same on some level.

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At least read the article before responding. Ars Technica does not back down from its original claim and suggests Microsoft is only right on a largely irrelevant technicality.

And oh yes, I'm sure Microsoft released some statistics that made BC look real popular. But then again, most semi intelligent 16 year olds know giant corporations spin statistics to paint rosier pictures. I'd trust Ars Technica on this one. Maybe if you privide the link to Microsofts numbers we can see how they're fooling ya. But...ya didn't did ya? Hmmm...

Lets walk through another minefield of yours shall we? You suggest that BC numbers on the original XBox One are irrelevent to how popular/relavent BC will be on the XBox One X? You are aware of how few people own an XBox One X right? You are also aware that the demographic who buys the XBox One X really, really cares about graphics. Do you really think that demo has a higher interest in uprezzed XBox and XBox 360 games? No, they buy the X to play the best versions of today/tomorrows AAA titles. Blinx The Time Sweeper and Kameo Elements of Power aint going to impress anyone even at 4k.

Andy, you're sick. I'm prescribing you the following. Please listen to it while you're working on your bathtub. Heck, everyone needs to listen to this...

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/555/the-incredible-rarity-of-changing-your-mind

In summation, MS would be nuts to spotlight BC on the biggest stage in June.

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At least read the article before responding. Ars Technica does not back down from its original claim and suggests Microsoft is only right on a largely irrelevant technicality.

And oh yes, I'm sure Microsoft released some statistics that made BC look real popular. But then again, most semi intelligent 16 year olds know giant corporations spin statistics to paint rosier pictures. I'd trust Ars Technica on this one. Maybe if you privide the link to Microsofts numbers we can see how they're fooling ya. But...ya didn't did ya? Hmmm...

Lets walk through another minefield of yours shall we? You suggest that BC numbers on the original XBox One are irrelevent to how popular/relavent BC will be on the XBox One X? You are aware of how few people own an XBox One X right? You are also aware that the demographic who buys the XBox One X really, really cares about graphics. Do you really think that demo has a higher interest in uprezzed XBox and XBox 360 games? No, they buy the X to play the best versions of today/tomorrows AAA titles. Blinx The Time Sweeper and Kameo Elements of Power aint going to impress anyone even at 4k.

Andy, you're sick. I'm prescribing you the following. Please listen to it while you're working on your bathtub. Heck, everyone needs to listen to this...

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/555/the-incredible-rarity-of-changing-your-mind

In summation, MS would be nuts to spotlight BC on the biggest stage in June.

a135a550-3554-11e4-8287-3f278dc0c0bf_The-Shawshank-Redemption-Rain-Scene.gif


How bout as a footnote.... I kinda wanna agree with you on them spotlighting bc on stage, it wouldn’t be a mistake but probably shouldn’t be there unless something major is included say they add online functionality to those games. But they could just have a showcase before or after the briefing with the major and aceybongos, my guess is before, with news of keyboard and mouse support. It’s really more of a numbers thing which they have avoided and just showcase new games.
 
You're not giving any reasons, just saying "no" and "lol." Weak.

You'll see; MS will have a section featuring BC, both OG and 360. It will feature things like RDR in 4K, MCC in 4K, and the OG bc titles in near-4K, along with (I expect) additional announcements. What did BigMutha say? That their BC team is their best development team this generation? What they're doing with BC is impressive and deserves attention during E3.

They will, but they need too. They don't have enough games otherwise.
 
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At least read the article before responding. Ars Technica does not back down from its original claim and suggests Microsoft is only right on a largely irrelevant technicality.

And oh yes, I'm sure Microsoft released some statistics that made BC look real popular. But then again, most semi intelligent 16 year olds know giant corporations spin statistics to paint rosier pictures. I'd trust Ars Technica on this one. Maybe if you privide the link to Microsofts numbers we can see how they're fooling ya. But...ya didn't did ya? Hmmm...

Lets walk through another minefield of yours shall we? You suggest that BC numbers on the original XBox One are irrelevent to how popular/relavent BC will be on the XBox One X? You are aware of how few people own an XBox One X right? You are also aware that the demographic who buys the XBox One X really, really cares about graphics. Do you really think that demo has a higher interest in uprezzed XBox and XBox 360 games? No, they buy the X to play the best versions of today/tomorrows AAA titles. Blinx The Time Sweeper and Kameo Elements of Power aint going to impress anyone even at 4k.

Andy, you're sick. I'm prescribing you the following. Please listen to it while you're working on your bathtub. Heck, everyone needs to listen to this...

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/555/the-incredible-rarity-of-changing-your-mind

In summation, MS would be nuts to spotlight BC on the biggest stage in June.

a135a550-3554-11e4-8287-3f278dc0c0bf_The-Shawshank-Redemption-Rain-Scene.gif
Kind of ironic how you spun the article to create a conspiracy.
 
Sunset sure spends a lot of time trolling Union.
 
Interesting. I hadn't heard that. We need more good SF RPGs.

I've already yapped about my sense of what E3 will bring in the MS thread, but to recap briefly: it'll be MS's year, their comeback year; they've got lots to spotlight (BC, hardware advantage, Gamepass) and most importantly will have at least a couple new big AAA exclusive games to announce, along with the expected. MS will have most of the excitement and momentum this year. Sony will do fine because the games in the pipeline are interesting, but it will be status quo, with nothing much new announced, just more info about games that we already know about. Nintendo isn't really on my radar.

It is called Starfield. There have supposedly been leaks on it if you want to see more about it.
 
andy.gif


At least read the article before responding. Ars Technica does not back down from its original claim and suggests Microsoft is only right on a largely irrelevant technicality.

And oh yes, I'm sure Microsoft released some statistics that made BC look real popular. But then again, most semi intelligent 16 year olds know giant corporations spin statistics to paint rosier pictures. I'd trust Ars Technica on this one. Maybe if you privide the link to Microsofts numbers we can see how they're fooling ya. But...ya didn't did ya? Hmmm...

Lets walk through another minefield of yours shall we? You suggest that BC numbers on the original XBox One are irrelevent to how popular/relavent BC will be on the XBox One X? You are aware of how few people own an XBox One X right? You are also aware that the demographic who buys the XBox One X really, really cares about graphics. Do you really think that demo has a higher interest in uprezzed XBox and XBox 360 games? No, they buy the X to play the best versions of today/tomorrows AAA titles. Blinx The Time Sweeper and Kameo Elements of Power aint going to impress anyone even at 4k.

Andy, you're sick. I'm prescribing you the following. Please listen to it while you're working on your bathtub. Heck, everyone needs to listen to this...

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/555/the-incredible-rarity-of-changing-your-mind

In summation, MS would be nuts to spotlight BC on the biggest stage in June.

a135a550-3554-11e4-8287-3f278dc0c0bf_The-Shawshank-Redemption-Rain-Scene.gif


Like I said already, the article is irrelevant to what I was saying. If you want to spend time arguing that the article is accurate (even though the authors themselves disagree), well, okay then, you go for it. The article is irrelevant to what I was talking about.