The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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I'm sticking to benign joke Memes like the GTA guys only getting 3 stars.

Otherwise, I'm to the point of using Facebook only for movie and music discussion or general entertainment news.
 
Tribalism at its finest. People on both sides have been taught to stick with the tribe no matter what.

What's sad is that if people could put away the hostility, we could probably agree on all sorts of compromises. However when you see everything as adversarial, compromise is just admitting defeat.
 
Kerosene31 said:
Tribalism at its finest. People on both sides have been taught to stick with the tribe no matter what.

What's sad is that if people could put away the hostility, we could probably agree on all sorts of compromises. However when you see everything as adversarial, compromise is just admitting defeat.
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Isn't BMI pretty much just weight and height? So Someone that has like 2% fat but completely jacked is considered overweight lol
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tax-law/ar-AAuWW6J?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Paul Ryan Collected $500,000 In Koch Contributions Days After House Passed Tax Law

Just days after the House passed its version of the federal tax law slashing corporate tax rates, House Speaker Paul Ryan collected nearly $500,000 in campaign contributions from billionaire energy mogul Charles Koch and his wife, according to a recent campaign donor report.

Koch and his brother David spent millions of dollars to get the tax law passed and are spending millions more in a public relations campaign in an attempt to boost support for the law, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Koch Industries, one of the largest private corporations in the nation, operates refineries and manufactures a variety of products. The new tax law — which slices corporate tax rates from 35 percent to 21 percent, slashes estate taxes and includes a special deduction for oil and gas investors — is expected to save the Koch brothers and their businesses billions of dollars in taxes.
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Viktor said:
Isn't BMI pretty much just weight and height? So Someone that has like 2% fat but completely jacked is considered overweight lol
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They are very generalized, they don't take into account natural body type etc. One look at Trump let's us know he's not a healthy weight.
 
Love Trump or hate Trump, I told you guys this way back..... stocks are up and should continue to rise. My portfolio has never been better and half my holdings aren't even American (they are Canadian equities).

With the corporate tax cut, companies should have better earnings, which makes them more valuable.

Money left on the table folks. I think I said this a year ago. Trump is a businessman first, politician second. He'll do whatever to help his own interests first.... business. In turn that also helps businesses in general.

Unless something weird pops up shattering the markets (global financial crisis, war, etc...), expect markets to keep trending up.

If you are risk averse, buy a market fund that follows Dow or Nasdaq, and set a stop loss at -10 or -20%
 


lol Graham looks a bit deflated from dealing with the white house.

Paraphrased.

"Last week we were willing to allocate 18 billion for the wall and it got rejected because Trump said it was too much we could do it for less.
Then the white house proposed 33 billion be allocated for the wall. "
 
Intellivision said:
Love Trump or hate Trump, I told you guys this way back..... stocks are up and should continue to rise. My portfolio has never been better and half my holdings aren't even American (they are Canadian equities).

With the corporate tax cut, companies should have better earnings, which makes them more valuable.

Money left on the table folks. I think I said this a year ago. Trump is a businessman first, politician second. He'll do whatever to help his own interests first.... business. In turn that also helps businesses in general.

Unless something weird pops up shattering the markets (global financial crisis, war, etc...), expect markets to keep trending up.

If you are risk averse, buy a market fund that follows Dow or Nasdaq, and set a stop loss at -10 or -20%
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Again, nothing to do with him or his policies. Starting now, it's 'on him.' Now, his "policies" are 'responsible' for the market. Everything before this is Obama's. Obama is 'responsible' for taking the Dow from 6627 to 26,000. trump is 'responsible' for everything 26,000, positive, and negative, going forward. There's a bubble. It's going to burst. I don't think it will be a big one, but a correction should be coming.
 
What country are we going to ban people coming from for this incident?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/no-one-injured-man-sought-ied-detonates-florida-mall-n839706

Two IEDs detonate at Eagle Ridge Mall in Florida, no one injured

Florida police were seeking a man who was seen running from a mall where two improvised explosive devices detonated Sunday, authorities said.

Lakes Wales Deputy Police Chief Troy Schulze told reporters that two pipe bombs appeared to have detonated in a service corridor near a JCPenney store at Eagle Ridge Mall in Lake Wales, about 30 miles east of Tampa, at about 5:30 p.m., a half-hour before the mall was scheduled to close.

A third suspicious item was discovered near a movie theater, he said, but the state fire marshal's office determined that it was harmless.

“People here shopping, just enjoying a Sunday afternoon or evening with their families, and literally 'boom.'”
No shoppers were near the scene, and there are no reports of injuries, police said, but there was damage to a drop ceiling. The mall was evacuated.

Police described the devices as flare-like objects in PVC pipe, wrapped in electrical tape. Had anyone been near when they went off, he or she would likely have been injured, Schulze said.

"It's very concerning to us," Schulze said. "We're a family-oriented community. This is a family-oriented mall. When this started, my son was actually working here at this mall. ...

"People here shopping, just enjoying a Sunday afternoon or evening with their families, and literally 'boom,'" he said.

Witnesses told investigators that they saw a stocky, middle-age white man wearing a gray shirt and a gray hat running from the scene. Schulze said that it wasn't known whether the man was involved but that investigators considered him a person of interest and were hoping to question him.

"We're definitely not calling it terrorism at this time, but it's up to the FBI, which has been notified," he said.

The FBI referred calls to Lake Wells police.​
 
The stock market since 2009. "Thanks Obama". Funny thing, the economy has been recovering since we recovered from the last time Republicans tried trickle down economics along with massive deregulation.

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Co-presidents, john kelly and stephen miller, the racists in charge of Washington? Seems they're the ones who made trump go against the partisan agreement and shut down the government. #trumpshutdown
 
Intellivision said:
Love Trump or hate Trump, I told you guys this way back..... stocks are up and should continue to rise. My portfolio has never been better and half my holdings aren't even American (they are Canadian equities).
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No s***. The market has been going up pretty consistently since 2009. Except, of course, the first seven years of the bull market were apprarently a crappy economy and now it's just Drumpf's winning.[/QUOTE]
 
Plainview said:
Co-presidents, john kelly and stephen miller, the racists in charge of Washington? Seems they're the ones who made trump go against the partisan agreement and shut down the government. #trumpshutdown
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Aye, i think we need a #PresidentStephenMiller tag to viral and for him to start being referred to as President Miller. Maybe it'l get under Trumps skin.
 
I get what you are saying about the stock markets, but big differences are:

- Everyone seems to hate Trump, and he was supposed to be bad for markets
- Many CEOs even publicly outed him at the beginning as being bad for business
- Since he took over, stock indexes have been growing at an even faster pace
- Trump cut corporate taxes, so unless something really odd happens sinking the markets, his tax policy only helps fuel growth and earnings for US companies
- As I said before way back, money talks. That's why all those CEOs who badmouthed him a year ago now all zipped their mouths as stocks are at record highs. They won't be trying to rock the boat anymore saying anything negative
 
Intellivision said:
I get what you are saying about the stock markets, but big differences are:

- Everyone seems to hate Trump, and he was supposed to be bad for markets
- Many CEOs even publicly outed him at the beginning as being bad for business
- Since he took over, stock indexes have been growing at an even faster pace
- Trump cut corporate taxes, so unless something really odd happens sinking the markets, his tax policy only helps fuel growth and earnings for US companies
- As I said before way back, money talks. That's why all those CEOs who badmouthed him a year ago now all zipped their mouths as stocks are at record highs. They won't be trying to rock the boat anymore saying anything negative
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Bolded, fallacy. Market rose faster under Obama thank any other president I history. There’s no comparison. And like I said, trumps policies, however few they are, are now starting to take effect.

Cutting taxes helps companies, yes, that is a given. I’ve said it before, that doesn’t help the middle class. Many in the middle cannot reap the benefits of the market rise. They just don’t have the funds to do it. $50 a month is a big deal to a family of four in the middle class.

CEOs won’t say s*** because he made them wealthier while making their workers poorer.

trump is only in this because to make himself, and his family, wealthier, as well as as CEOs so they’re buddies with him. Once he’s done, they’ll go back to treating him like the piece of s*** that he is.

For the record, I have a retirement portfolio, and it’s done well.
 
Plainview said:
Bolded, fallacy. Market rose faster under Obama thank any other president I history. There’s no comparison. And like I said, trumps policies, however few they are, are now starting to take effect.

Cutting taxes helps companies, yes, that is a given. I’ve said it before, that doesn’t help the middle class. Many in the middle cannot reap the benefits of the market rise. They just don’t have the funds to do it. $50 a month is a big deal to a family of four in the middle class.

CEOs won’t say s*** because he made them wealthier while making their workers poorer.

trump is only in this because to make himself, and his family, wealthier, as well as as CEOs so they’re buddies with him. Once he’s done, they’ll go back to treating him like the piece of s*** that he is.

For the record, I have a retirement portfolio, and it’s done well.
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In the past year, Dow has increased 30% = 6,000 pts alone. Over the past half year, indexes have been growing at an even steeper line.

Markets did great with Obama, but that was over 8 years.

Middle class should be reaping benefits too because many should have investments of some sort or company contributions. Even if someone put their money into boring index funds, they have appreciated nicely.

Now if someone is saving zero and not contributing a dime to savings or investing, then I can see them not taking part.

However, the more money a company profits, the more money they have to keep staff. Companies can get greedy and bank it all, but companies have options what to do with it.

In good times, companies often hire. In bad times (global crisis 10 years ago), companies start pink slipping people.
 
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Intellivision said:
In the past year, Dow has increased 30% = 6,000 pts alone. Over the past half year, indexes have been growing at an even steeper line.

Markets did great with Obama, but that was over 8 years.

Middle class should be reaping benefits too because many should have investments of some sort or company contributions. Even if someone put their money into boring index funds, they have appreciated nicely.

Now if someone is saving zero and not contributing a dime to savings or investing, then I can see them not taking part.

However, the more money a company profits, the more money they have to keep staff. Companies can get greedy and bank it all, but companies have options what to do with it.

In good times, companies often hire. In bad times (global crisis 10 years ago), companies start pink slipping people.
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Companies, especially small businesses, don’t have retirement funds. Middle class have barriers to entry.

Past year is on Obama’s watch.

In fact, the Dow’s rise was even more impressive under Obama if you start measuring at the market’s low point, on March 9, 2009, during the depths of the Great Recession. That day, the Dow closed at 6,547. Between then and Jan. 5 — a 10-month period — the Dow rose by a stunning 61 percent. That’s more than three times faster than Trump’s rise over the same period in his term.​
 
Plainview said:
Companies, especially small businesses, don’t have retirement funds. Middle class have barriers to entry.

Past year is on Obama’s watch.

In fact, the Dow’s rise was even more impressive under Obama if you start measuring at the market’s low point, on March 9, 2009, during the depths of the Great Recession. That day, the Dow closed at 6,547. Between then and Jan. 5 — a 10-month period — the Dow rose by a stunning 61 percent. That’s more than three times faster than Trump’s rise over the same period in his term.​
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That's cherry picking a specific 10 month span using March 9's bottom as the base. The beginning of 2009 started at 9,000, then sunk to 6,500 two months later. 2009 then ended at about 10,500.
 
Intellivision said:
That's cherry picking a specific 10 month span using March 9's bottom as the base. The beginning of 2009 started at 9,000, then sunk to 6,500 two months later.
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Starting with Trump’s inauguration, the Dow has risen from 19,827.3 to 25,075.1 -- an increase of 26 percent. That’s impressive.

But it’s not as impressive as its performance during the equivalent period under Obama. Under Obama, the Dow increased from 7,949.1 to 10,572 — a rise of 33 percent.
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And... again, the first year is Obama’s. Just like the first year was Bush’s. Effects of trump policies start now.
 
Aiight so the middle class needs to start buying stocks. At a glance on Google, Scott trade requires a minimum balance of 2500.

I think a lot of middle class people would find that awkward. Life happens. People have car repairs, medical expenses, and one of the worst is student loans.
 
Plainview said:
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Starting with Trump’s inauguration, the Dow has risen from 19,827.3 to 26,215.6 -- an increase of 32.2 percent. That’s impressive.

But it’s not as impressive as its performance during the equivalent period under Obama. Under Obama, the Dow increased from 7,949.1 to 10,173 — a rise of 28 percent.
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And... again, the first year is Obama’s. Just like the first year was Bush’s. Effects of trump policies start now.
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Fixed using data from inauguration dates to Jan 22 (today's date) of the following year.
 
Intellivision said:
Fixed using data from inauguration dates to Jan 22 (today's date) of the following year.
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So you say data was cherry picked then you go and cherry picked. Lol.

And again... the past year is Obama’s. trump starts now. Let’s see what the market does over the next year.
 
Plainview said:
So you say data was cherry picked then you go and cherry picked. Lol.

And again... the past year is Obama’s. trump starts now. Let’s see what the market does over the next year.
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Since you brought up inauguration dates, I simply included the full date range, since inauguration. I could tell by your data it was not complete as the Dow is at 26,000 and not at 25,000.
 
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