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Can Elon Musk just take us to another planet? This one is beyond hope.

There is no escape. Trump wants to start a Space Force branch of the military. Then after he's out of office, well elect Skroob.

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Why isn't every single American enraged by this?

https://www.apnews.com/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769

Michelle Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women’s Refugee Commission, met with a 16-year-old girl who had been taking care of a young girl for three days. The teen and others in their cage thought the girl was 2 years old.​
“She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper,” Brane said.​
Brane said that after an attorney started to ask questions, agents found the girl’s aunt and reunited the two. It turned out that the girl was actually 4 years old. Part of the problem was that she didn’t speak Spanish, but K’iche, a language indigenous to Guatemala.​
“She was so traumatized that she wasn’t talking,” Brane said. “She was just curled up in a little ball.”​
Brane said she also saw officials at the facility scold a group of 5-year-olds for playing around in their cage, telling them to settle down. There are no toys or books.​
But one boy nearby wasn’t playing with the rest. According to Brane, he was quiet, clutching a piece of paper that was a photocopy of his mother’s ID card.​
“The government is literally taking kids away from their parents and leaving them in inappropriate conditions,” Brane said. “If a parent left a child in a cage with no supervision with other 5-year-olds, they’d be held accountable.”​
 
“The government is literally taking kids away from their parents and leaving them in inappropriate conditions,” Brane said. “If a parent left a child in a cage with no supervision with other 5-year-olds, they’d be held accountable.”​
Yeah, but good Americans don't have brown kids. #MAGA
 
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The showrunner for Modern family and Seth MacFarlane have both spoken out about how disgusted they are to be associated with Fox and its affiliates after its latest news coverage.

In the meantime...
 
The best way to sum it up (other than referring to it as a s***show) is that, in the same day:

1. Sessions declares that they're separating the children from parents because of the administration's zero-tolerance policy.
2. Nielson says that they don't have a policy requiring the separation of children from parents.

And of course, the White House says that their hands are tied because it's Obama's fault.

Meanwhile, the WH doesn't want a Congressional fix of just the child separation issues (which they could fix themselves by just saying we're not prosecuting every single border crossing, which triggers the detention and separation), and then the Ministry of Tru Fox News is saying that the Democrats are just using this as a political weapon. Yeah, because reacting negatively to the border patrol ripping children from the arms of their parents and laughing at these caged toddlers' cries is something that, in the minds of the FOX nation, something that is less important as a matter of decency than it is as another political variable to be leveraged.
 
I have to strongly go against Cuomo on this one. He starts out saying that they have warm blood pumping through their hearts. They don't. They really don't. There's a reason they call anyone who doesn't agree with their alt right beliefs "bleeding heart liberals".

You'd think that defending young children would be a common sense issue, but it isn't. Trump and the alt right have twisted people into believing that immigrants are taking all your jobs and committing all the crimes (all while giving the rich even more tax loopholes and cuts).

We need to stop tugging at heart strings... the strings aren't connected to anything. We need to start de-programming the brain washed and explain to them that doing this to kids does not make your lives better in any way.
 
I have to strongly go against Cuomo on this one. He starts out saying that they have warm blood pumping through their hearts. They don't. They really don't. There's a reason they call anyone who doesn't agree with their alt right beliefs "bleeding heart liberals".

You'd think that defending young children would be a common sense issue, but it isn't. Trump and the alt right have twisted people into believing that immigrants are taking all your jobs and committing all the crimes (all while giving the rich even more tax loopholes and cuts).

We need to stop tugging at heart strings... the strings aren't connected to anything. We need to start de-programming the brain washed and explain to them that doing this to kids does not make your lives better in any way.

Actually they are lazy freeloaders who don't work and take all our jobs.
 
Interesting read from reddit comments about why trump may be so gung ho about coal.....

There is also something odd about Jim Justice, governor of WV. He and Trump are very close and a few years ago Justice sold his coal mines to Russians for $600 about $550 million and then bought them back for $5 million. Then he ran for governor as a Democrat, won it, and then switched parties. Since then, he has twice hosted Trump at his (the governor's) privately owned casino resort, and the Republican Congress once. Too much money being exchanged between this crew of Republicans and the Russians for their not to be something going on.



Wow, I live right next to West Virginia and had somehow never heard of any of this. That's super suspect. Looks like he sold the mines to a Russian company in 2009, so that goes back almost 10 years.



No wonder Trump is so determined to revive the outdated coal industry.



For that much money, it's worth playing the long game. It's not like they are hurting for it right away. It looks like they leave a long enough interval between transactions as to not look overly suspicious.



Wait, link? How is thisnot bigger news?



https://www.wvgazettemail.com/busin...cle_f4c55841-57c4-58eb-8a46-493ed7eb866e.html
It was 2015. Trump had already begun his dealings in Russia. Perhaps it's coincidence that Justice has close ties with Russian millionaires and is close friends with Trump, but there's a pattern.



I have a buddy who's an engineer. He has a saying: once is luck, twice is coincidence, three times is a pattern. We exceeded 3 years ago.



some interesting bits that corroborate OP:
In 2015, Justice switched from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party and announced his candidacy for Governor in the 2016 election. He ran as a Democrat and defeated the Republican nominee, Bill Cole. Less than seven months after taking office, Justice switched back to the Republican Party the day after announcing his plans at a Donald Trump rally in the state.​
In 2009, he sold some of his coal business to the Russian company Mechel for $568 million. In 2015, after a huge drop in the price of coal which led Mechel to close some of the mines, he bought the business back for just $5 million.
and bonus f***ery because of course he's corrupt:
Justice's mining companies have a history of safety violation and unpaid taxes; in 2016, NPR called him the "top mine safety delinquent" in the United States.​
Justice owes millions of dollars to the government in back taxes, and unpaid coal mining fees and fines: "His mining companies owe $15 million in six states, including property and minerals taxes, state coal severance and withholding taxes, and federal income, excise and unemployment taxes, as well as mine safety penalties, according to county, state and federal records."​
 
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I do remember hearing about a governor changing parties after winning. I didn't realize that he was a Republican at one point. Not to take anything away from what he has done, but how can someone vote for a guy like him? This just happened in one of the California primaries as well, where someone with a history of supporting/donating to Republicans ran as a Democrat. I don't remember for sure but I think he was the favored to win. Why is someone like him favored over another person with a history of being a Democrat? It's only a matter of time before he decides to switch. My feeling, is if that happens, he is no longer representing the policies that he promised before the election and should be either removed or have a special election against a new opponent.
 
It’s pretty amazing watching trump and trumpublicans embracing borderline nazism at this point. I mean, always knew it was there. But it’s coming out into the open now.

Even dehumanizing immigrants by calling them an infestation.
 
From reddit
$5,000 was used to advertise Trump Hotels;​
$10,000 was spent on a portrait of the president, later found on display at the the sports bar at Trump’s Doral golf resort;​
$100,000 was allegedly used to settle a legal dispute with the city of Palm Beach, which Trump resolved by contributing the amount to the Fisher House Foundation;​
$258,000 was allegedly used to settle lawsuits against Trump and his businesses, including $158,000 paid to a man named Martin Greenberg, who sued the Trump National Golf Club after it failed to pay him a promised $1 million for scoring a hole-in-one at a charity golf tournament.​
On that last point, the suit helpfully includes a large photocopy of a note, written in Trump’s signature style, explicitly directing his staff to use the charity’s money to fix his legal problem:​
Edit: add the petition​
 
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The a****** "lawyer" behind trump's illegal voter investigation is ordered to attend law classes. LMFAO!

https://thinkprogress.org/judge-ord...-legal-classes-e8b8767edede-6133b58a102a/amp/

Kris Kobach ordered to attend legal classes for violating basic legal concepts
A federal judge on Tuesday struck down Kansas Secretary of State and notorious voter suppression architect Kris Kobach’s documentary proof of citizenship law, and ordered Kobach, who decided to represent himself in the litigation and repeatedly violated basic rules of civil procedure, to attend six hours of continuing legal education classes.​
During trial in March, Kobach argued that he had evidence that a significant number of non-citizens were registering to vote in Kansas. The only way to prevent this type of voter fraud, he argued, was his law which required voters to show a proof-of-citizenship document like a passport or birth certificate when they registered to vote.​
The ACLU, which represented the voters in the lawsuit, argued that the law disenfranchised eligible voters, especially students and low-income citizens. According to the ACLU, the Kansas law blocked more than 35,000 people in that state from casting a ballot between 2013 and 2016 — about 14 percent of all new voter registrations.​
The judge agreed with the ACLU.​
 
I do remember hearing about a governor changing parties after winning. I didn't realize that he was a Republican at one point. Not to take anything away from what he has done, but how can someone vote for a guy like him? This just happened in one of the California primaries as well, where someone with a history of supporting/donating to Republicans ran as a Democrat. I don't remember for sure but I think he was the favored to win. Why is someone like him favored over another person with a history of being a Democrat? It's only a matter of time before he decides to switch. My feeling, is if that happens, he is no longer representing the policies that he promised before the election and should be either removed or have a special election against a new opponent.


Is this kind of on the citizens? It seems like I've seen hardcore miners demonstrating in favor of coal related jobs because they would rather go back into dusty tunnels than consider retraining to retooling the local industry.

It's kind of an entrenched legacy over generations to have the coal industry and so weird to see towns so lost without it.


 
Is this kind of on the citizens? It seems like I've seen hardcore miners demonstrating in favor of coal related jobs because they would rather go back into dusty tunnels than consider retraining to retooling the local industry.

It's kind of an entrenched legacy over generations to have the coal industry and so weird to see towns so lost without it.

Too many Americans have this irrational denial about blue collar jobs. The idea of the hard working American who rolls up their sleeves and puts in an honest 8 hours physical work is nice, but it isn't realistic in a global economy.

Sadly, the people who are stuck in this belief also don't really understand economics, so the promises of a snake oil salesman like Trump sounds great to them.
 
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C'mon this is f***ing horrible. Coal mining jobs are basically a process that converts human health into money in the short term. The long term seems like a gradual suffocating death.

It's just crazy no one can find another innovative way to bring other businesses in and back off of coal. Nah we gotta keep crawling hunched over in these tiny tunnels inhaling coal dust and spend a short retirement dependent on oxygen tanks on a little cart everywhere. f***.


 
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Too many Americans have this irrational denial about blue collar jobs. The idea of the hard working American who rolls up their sleeves and puts in an honest 8 hours physical work is nice, but it isn't realistic in a global economy.

Sadly, the people who are stuck in this belief also don't really understand economics, so the promises of a snake oil salesman like Trump sounds great to them.

Yeah, I've seen this growing up in Michigan.

In some ways, it is still true but nowhere near what it used to be regarding large manufacturing. This is even worse though because coal mining slowly kills these workers.
 
Yeah, I've seen this growing up in Michigan.

In some ways, it is still true but nowhere near what it used to be regarding large manufacturing. This is even worse though because coal mining slowly kills these workers.

Yeah I wish it were possible, but it just isn't. $25 / hour coal miner jobs? That's not sustainable long term. Someone's going to automate that job, or just mine coal in China or somewhere else and pay to ship it back.

What people don't get is white collar people are struggling to make ends meet. I've got 20 years IT experience and I'm embarrassed to say what I make. It is more than 25/hour but not by a ton. I drive a 2009 Saturn FFS.
 
C'mon this is f***ing horrible. Coal mining jobs are basically a process that converts human health into money in the short term. The long term seems like a gradual suffocating death.

It's just crazy no one can find another innovative way to bring other businesses in and back off of coal. Nah we gotta keep crawling hunched over in these tiny tunnels inhaling coal dust and spend a short retirement dependent on oxygen tanks on a little cart everywhere. f***.



They voted for it.
 
Yep I've got it through Amazon as well. I was disappointed in the Prime price hike but between the discount on that, free sub to Twitch, and obviously movies I'll probably get suckered into paying the new rate.

I also have The New York Times and The New Yorker. At least the NYT was a sale price for X amount of months when I got it, so not sure I will continue with it beyond that price. Wapo is probably good enough for my lone national newspaper. The New Yorker I like for the more in depth articles so I'd probably keep that.
 
I just wrote my senators again, this time about the zero tolerance boarder policy. I know I'm about to get a classic RED state answer or ambigous non-answer but I at least want to have them on record.
 
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