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Words unchecked will become action?
Isn't that a pretty vague statement that you have no way of proving one way or the other? I mean, there's a reason why the phrase "talk is cheap" has lasted so long.
No, the killing of thousands of black people by overt and organized racists does not happen today. It just doesn't.
Violence has been proven to drop considerably in communities where policing increases. The most troubled communities are those who's police force is spread too thin to cover effectively.
There's no "system" set up to kill/oppress minorities in America in 2018. You're using unbelievably vague terminology that crazy leftists constantly use and it discredits you. Be specific or move on. Sane people have no time for these conspiracy theorist BS arguments.
Here's what's actually happening...
Humans have a poor understanding of how personal bias effects their beliefs. They want something to be true so they'll absorb data that supports their personal bias and ignore data that opposses their personal bias. Humans, on average, believe what they want to believe.
Watch 30 seconds of this video to see just how powerful we let our emotions override rational thought.
How do you think people are going to react when they're told "You're only in a bad spot because the system has oppressed you" rather than "You're in a bad spot because you're Mom decided to have 4 kids from 3 different father's."
Throwing your emotion behind the first phrase allows you to feel good. Throwing your emotion behind the second phrase is going to make you feel...well you get the idea.
Don't let emotion hijack rational thought.
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First, yes, words are dangerous. Propaganda is dangerous. It leads to autrocities like the holocaust. We’ve seen countless people literally be radicalized by words on the internet and propaganda machines. Many Muslims terrorists have been radicalized by words. Many right wing terrorists have been radicalized by words. Same for the left.
Statistics demonstrate that minorities are incarcerated at a higher percentage rate than white people. I didn’t make it up. It’s not an emotional claim. The system is created to oppress miniroties. Always has been.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/rates.html
Now thanks to people that have gotten tired of the broken system, things have gotten better.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewr...-number-of-blacks-and-whites-in-prison/?amp=1
But, there is still the fact that minorities make up over 50 percent of the prison population while only making up about 36 percent of the population.
Further Statistics demonstrate that minorities get harsher sentencing. Again, didn’t make that up. Statistics prove this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6ba99f6d8a80
Finally, yes the system is setup to murder black people and minorities. So much so that the FBI has even put out warnings a decade ago that the white supremacist groups were infiltrating police departments.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fbi-warned-about-white-supremacists/
Statistics demonstrate that minorities are incarcerated at a higher percentage rate than white people. I didn’t make it up. It’s not an emotional claim. The system is created to oppress miniroties. Always has been.
https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/rates.html
Now thanks to people that have gotten tired of the broken system, things have gotten better.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewr...-number-of-blacks-and-whites-in-prison/?amp=1
But, there is still the fact that minorities make up over 50 percent of the prison population while only making up about 36 percent of the population.
Further Statistics demonstrate that minorities get harsher sentencing. Again, didn’t make that up. Statistics prove this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...y-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6ba99f6d8a80
Finally, yes the system is setup to murder black people and minorities. So much so that the FBI has even put out warnings a decade ago that the white supremacist groups were infiltrating police departments.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fbi-warned-about-white-supremacists/
You're right. Words can lead to action. More often than not though, they lead to nothing. Cherry picking instances when they lead to poor outcomes doesn't seem particularly helpful. We'll all take a few people who wear MAGA hats over people who wore white robes any day of the week. Not debatable.
You're right that minorities are overrepresented in prison. However, you ignore two vital facts. The minorities overrepresented commit more crime. Crime leads to prison, not skin color. Vital fact number two. Why aren't Japanese, Chinese, Indian, and Jewish people overrepresented in prisons? They're minorities. Why are they able to escape the systems oppression in America? I'll tell you. They commit less crime.
You're also right that minorities get harsher sentencing in prison. But once again, you ignore the fact that certain minorities commit more crime than others. If you're a repeat offender, you get harsher penalties than if you're a first time offender. Which demographics do you think have the most repeat offenders?
You're right, that white supremacists groups have tried to infiltrate law enforcement. Yet you ignore the fact that outlaw groups have historically tried to infiltrate law enforcement for the past 500 years. This is not a new development and it's never been more difficult for a person from such a group to be hired by law enforcement than it is today.
Also, when are you going to link us to data showing that MAGA hat people are even remotely as dangerous and violent as those who wore white hoods in the early 1900's? You kind of ignored that one.
This really all boils down to personal philosophy. 99% of where you end up in life boils down to...working hard, being responsible, saving your money, and becoming an asset to other people. The Obama's did that and look at what "the system" did to them.
Also, don't let your emotions override your rational thought.
You guys need to see this too.
The media spun that story a certain way didn't they? Why? Because a story with a clear villain (especially if they're MAGA hat wearers) is 1,000% more profitable than what actually transpired.
The media spun that story a certain way didn't they? Why? Because a story with a clear villain (especially if they're MAGA hat wearers) is 1,000% more profitable than what actually transpired.
Racism has always been around. The big danger is the people trying to convince everyone else it isn't there.
If this doesn't feel normal to you, that's perfectly ok. It isn't normal, no matter how many people try to convince you otherwise.
For those younger, things weren't always this way. This is a very new thing.
If this doesn't feel normal to you, that's perfectly ok. It isn't normal, no matter how many people try to convince you otherwise.
For those younger, things weren't always this way. This is a very new thing.
What’s funny is that people are claiming the media spun the MAGAts as pieces of s***, which they were, and some how they were provoked by ‘democrats.’ Yes, the people screaming they hate ‘fags’ are Democrats.
Also, the Native American telling people to go back to europe, this was after the comments towards him about building a wall to keep him out.
Also, using a highly edited/complied video to try to prove another edited video is false... Lolocoaster. Loldailycaller
Also, the Native American telling people to go back to europe, this was after the comments towards him about building a wall to keep him out.
Also, using a highly edited/complied video to try to prove another edited video is false... Lolocoaster. Loldailycaller
Nice to see Sunset bringing his stupidity to another thread. He really does live in a fantasy world he created.
Too many and too many that don't have a chance. Dems are going to run the risk of spreading the primary votes and end up with someone who's not a guarantee to unseat the MAGAt.
I haven't seen one story claiming they were provoked by Democrats. Everything I've read specifically (all mainstream sources) stated Black Hebrew Isrealites. Maybe stop reading YouTube comment sections?
The "Go back to Europe" quote did not come from Nathan Phillips but rather one of the Black Hebrew Isrealites.
The longer video (1 hour and 46 minutes long) shows context that suggests claims made by people pushing the first video were fabricating BS. But maybe there's a 3 hour video out there or something right?
The moral of the story here is that the liberal media has egg on their face. BS stories like this only serve to further polorize the country and makes people distrust them for good reason. None of this helps when real stories break.
Yeah Democrats don't fall in line to vote to the degree Republicans so months of infighting could be bad but the small field didn't really work out so hopefully the cream rises to the top.
But then you have someone like Tulsi Gabbard who might just be there to sow discord. Someone who actually went on TV and blamed both sides for the shutdown.
Are you white and did you come from a good neighborhood/background? If so then that explains your views.
I don't usually respond to idiocy directly, but I'll make an exception because you don't have a single clue what you're talking about. The person that said go back to Europe is the Native American in the non racist red hat at 2:06 in the video linked below. I'm not sure the logical jump one has to make to say the "liberal media" has egg on it's face because they somehow didn't run with the narrative that one hate group made another hate group mock Native Americans and say a wall should be built to keep them out.
First of all, you're clearly emotionally charged here. I'll do my best to deescalate so that we can speak rationally, rather than emotionally.
Good catch on the Native American, who said the racist thing, in a non racist red had, was the one who said "Go back to Europe". Or are you one of those people who think racism is it only a white person thing?
The liberal media has egg on their face because they spun a story suggesting MAGA hat wearing teenagers were acting aggressively towards a Native American. If you watch the full 1 hour and 46 unedited video, you'll see how laughable that is. They were supposedly surrounding this poor man, yelling awful things at him, and not letting him escape. In reality, the Native American walked directly into a group of kids waiting for their school bus and got awkwardly close to a nerdy looking 15 year old kid, who then decided to get real awkward by plastering a smile on his face.
And I'd still like to hear where "Build the wall" was said and how it specifically intimidates Native Americans who have a longer lineage to this country than anyone else. Wouldn't a wall keep Native Americans in?
Let's start recognizing how emotions and tribalism skew our perception of reality. I have no interest in talking to a YouTube comments section.
We've truly created a world where liberals are unable to criticize liberals and conservatives are unable to criticize conservatives. Insanity.
A Native American saying "go back to Europe" is not racist. Its the perfect response to those so fiercely against immigration.
You know someone has lost the argument when the pull the 'You're too emotion to form a valid opinion' argument.
Let's ignore the mocking of the chants. Let's ignore the reason Nathan Phillips walked where he did, to deflate and escalation between two deplorable groups of people, the MAGAts and the Black Hebrew Israelites.
MAGAts mock and ridicule Native Americans, 'Not sure how they're they did anything wrong.'
As far as how it intimidates Native Americans, maybe you should ask the MAGAts that were throwing it at the Native Americans. When the Native American in the non-racist red hat said go back to Europe, it was after the MAGAt said 'we're going to build the wall.'
Who's the liberal? Who's unable to criticize liberals? If you were able to rationally form an argument based very recent historical postings, in the SJW thread, you'd be able to come to the conclusion that nobody on here is unable to go after a liberal acting like a moron.
You're not going to get another response from me. You're not worth the time, nor effort, to have a discussion with.
No, I didn't say "You're too emotional to form a valid opinion". I said you're getting emotional, which is something I've repeatedly said gets in the way of real discourse. It is interesting that you misinterpreted it that way and your focus is on "winning" an argument. Let's move past winning and losing here. That's tribalism.
No one is ignoring the chants. Some of us just realized that the chants were clearly directed towards the Black Hebrew Isrealites. Watch the one hour and forty six minute version. It's clear as day to see. I'm also not ignoring the fact that the chants were supposed to be school spirit chants. Chants you often hear at Florida State Seminole/Washington Redskin football games.
It's also interesting that you're putting weight behind Mr. Phillips intentions when no one can know what his intentions were. All we have are what's on camera. He walked up to a large group of agitated kids waiting for a school bus and beat a ceremonial war drum 12 inches from a kid's face. It's not exactly Kenny G playing Songbird in front of a bunch of middle aged women now is it?
In terms of the racist Native American who was wearing the non racist hat, I couldn't make out anything that sounded like "Build the wall" prior to him saying the racist "Go back to Europe". And again, how is saying the phrase "Build the wall" even remotely intimidating to a person who's lineage is attached to this country longer than most? Things just aren't adding up.
It seems to me that your emotional response to that hat clouds your judgement. You're an adult who's getting worked up over a bunch of awkward 15 year old kids raised in conservative culture. Real stories are out there. This is a nothing burger.
Go watch Accidental Courtesy. Your view of racism seems somewhat basic to me. If wearing that hat sets you off, you haven't met enough people who wore it.
You put yourself in an adult situation wearing that hat with a dbag smile on your face a punch should be coming.
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"I can tell you, from the moment I read the story, I knew the story was false. Because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the e-mails, and I knew none existed," he added.
When asked by The New Yorker, "Wait, what tapes have you gone through?" Giuliani replied: "I shouldn't have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and e-mails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the president told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the president never told him to lie."
The lawyer then clarified that there are no tapes before immediately adding: "Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this."
"I can tell you, from the moment I read the story, I knew the story was false. Because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts, I have been through all the e-mails, and I knew none existed," he added.
When asked by The New Yorker, "Wait, what tapes have you gone through?" Giuliani replied: "I shouldn't have said tapes. They alleged there were texts and e-mails that corroborated that Cohen was saying the president told him to lie. There were no texts, there were no e-mails, and the president never told him to lie."
The lawyer then clarified that there are no tapes before immediately adding: "Well, I have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this."
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