The Naughty Dog Agenda

OMG, Pixar (Coco, Inside Out) got it right, sorta....

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/04/pope_quoted_as_saying_there_s_no_hell


“There is no hell,” Pope Francis was quoted as saying in an interview published this week with La Repubblica founder Eugenio Scalfari — an atheist friend of the pontiff. “There is the disappearance of sinful souls.”

Francis’s reply answered the kind of question asked by many coming up in the faith: “What about bad souls? Where are they punished?”

In the article titled “It is an honor to be called a revolutionary,” the pope is quoted as saying: “They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear.”


In 1999, Pope John Paul II similarly rattled Catholics when he emphasized the eternal punishment was less about geography than separation from God.

“Rather than a place,” the Polish pope said, “Hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy.”

Weak sources. Quotes taken out of context.

The current Pope does believe in hell. Or at least says he does, though I'm skeptical.

 
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Yeah, just the journalist's interpretation. He didn't make a recording, so it's just his word.

It wouldn't make any sense for the Pope to say there's no Hell. If anyone takes "Hell" (or let's say dark spiritual realms) seriously, it's Catholics. They're the guys with the exorcists, after all.
 
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and hurting the temple...

Oh who's going to be the giver of these bad consequences for doing bad things?

The temple? that's property, you don't damage someone else's property. We have man made laws against things and when they are broken people are punished by other people. What happens when we die is anyone's guess, nobody knows for sure and anyone that says they know is a liar, they may hope like hell that they are right but there is no way to know for sure and anyone asking for your devotion because they "figured it out" is a scam artist.
 
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I sent a letter to the Resetera staff. I assume they'll permaban me. I didn't want to post it publically, because that's attention-seeking, but I'll post it here for anyone who cares.

"I don’t need to make a public post about this, but I felt that I should at least express my displeasure to someone before I left.

"I’m disappointed that Era has become a place where you can only speak in certain ways and have certain, approved viewpoints (which I would describe as SJW/feminist/progressive, although I assume you see it as inclusive, diverse, etc.). If you have a different viewpoint, you will be banned and name-called by the moderation staff as misogynist, bigoted, or whatever term comes reflexively into their programmed heads. Even if you are speaking common sense and have facts to back you up, no luck, you will be shut down. Alternative points of view are not welcome.

"You can run your forum how you like, of course, but I can’t be a part of something that promotes an ideology I detest."

....

GAF is annoying me, too. The political discussions are a lot more open, but I've seen some obnoxious stuff on the gaming side. Specifically from Xbox fans (or console warriors, I should say).

For instance, I posted this in the Xbox BC thread:

"I picked up an Xbox One X in part because I wanted to play BC titles. After playing some BC titles, I realize I don't really want to play BC titles that much. Jade Empire was a nice dose of nostalgia, but I don't want to go through the game again. It's nice to see how they improved Oblivion and Morrowind, but I'm not going to spend 100-200 hours going through those epics again. I picked up some other titles (e.g., Kotor), but I don't feel like playing them. Turns out, I'd rather play a new game than an old one."

Here are two of the responses I got:

*looks at avatar*

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I'm sure that you have an imaginary Xbox One X and that your mum really respects the fact that you're unemployed and have $20 in Bitcoins saved up.

Move your console war elsewhere, peasant. The rest of us (genuine gamers) are busy playing games (on all platforms), irrespective of their release date. Pro-tip: You're not welcome in these parts.


I like the line about "You're not welcome in these parts." Very Maxine Waters.


Nice myspace journal entry👍, It would've been better if you posted it there because guess what? NOBODY gives a s*** if you got bored talking to Smiling Mountain in Jade Empire and fell asleep. It also makes you look like a little bitch posting about how bored you get with b/c games in a b/c thread.


Damn, lol. There are some seriously defensive console warriors over there.
 
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I sent a letter to the Resetera staff. I assume they'll permaban me. I didn't want to post it publically, because that's attention-seeking, but I'll post it here for anyone who cares.

"I don’t need to make a public post about this, but I felt that I should at least express my displeasure to someone before I left.

"I’m disappointed that Era has become a place where you can only speak in certain ways and have certain, approved viewpoints (which I would describe as SJW/feminist/progressive, although I assume you see it as inclusive, diverse, etc.). If you have a different viewpoint, you will be banned and name-called by the moderation staff as misogynist, bigoted, or whatever term comes reflexively into their programmed heads. Even if you are speaking common sense and have facts to back you up, no luck, you will be shut down. Alternative points of view are not welcome.

"You can run your forum how you like, of course, but I can’t be a part of something that promotes an ideology I detest."

....

GAF is annoying me, too. The political discussions are a lot more open, but I've seen some obnoxious stuff on the gaming side. Specifically from Xbox fans (or console warriors, I should say).

For instance, I posted this in the Xbox BC thread:

"I picked up an Xbox One X in part because I wanted to play BC titles. After playing some BC titles, I realize I don't really want to play BC titles that much. Jade Empire was a nice dose of nostalgia, but I don't want to go through the game again. It's nice to see how they improved Oblivion and Morrowind, but I'm not going to spend 100-200 hours going through those epics again. I picked up some other titles (e.g., Kotor), but I don't feel like playing them. Turns out, I'd rather play a new game than an old one."

Here are two of the responses I got:




I like the line about "You're not welcome in these parts." Very Maxine Waters.





Damn, lol. There are some seriously defensive console warriors over there.

Well if you want an actual discussion you probably should stop calling people SJWs every chance you get
 
Well if you want an actual discussion you probably should stop calling people SJWs every chance you get

I was telling them why I was leaving. I'm not interested in having a discussion with them. So your point doesn't hold. It would help if you'd actually listen rather than come up with stupid one-liners.

I'll call people SJWs when they act like SJWs.
 
Come on now. There's no free speech on the internet. I generally stay away from topics like these but sometimes i worry i'm gonna get banned for saying PS4 is better than X1 when i know all i'm doing is exercising free speech and stating a fact.
 
I sent a letter to the Resetera staff. I assume they'll permaban me. I didn't want to post it publically, because that's attention-seeking, but I'll post it here for anyone who cares.

"I don’t need to make a public post about this, but I felt that I should at least express my displeasure to someone before I left..

Umm...

Is this not attention seeking? Are you fishing for support? Or just soap boxing?

You used to be a mod here. Can you not read what you're posting, or is it meant to be ironic?

You said something douchey, and you got punished for it. We all make mistakes, we move on.


"I’m disappointed that Era has become a place where you can only speak in certain ways and have certain, approved viewpoints (which I would describe as SJW/feminist/progressive, although I assume you see it as inclusive, diverse, etc.). If you have a different viewpoint, you will be banned and name-called by the moderation staff as misogynist, bigoted, or whatever term comes reflexively into their programmed heads. Even if you are speaking common sense and have facts to back you up, no luck, you will be shut down. Alternative points of view are not welcome.

"You can run your forum how you like, of course, but I can’t be a part of something that promotes an ideology I detest."
And then you sook and whinge about something, that you actually look down apon? You say you don't like what they are standing for, you arent remorseful in any way about what you said, and pretty much arent willing to look at the larger picture?

I'm not a member of those forums (I dont have the right email... And I'd be banned in 10 minutes for the s*** I say), but if someone on these forums got banned, and then continued to slag you off, would you even consider welcoming them back?

I'll say it again, Ive not checked those forums out. But if I only relied on your word, those forums are full of horrible SJW's that punish Trump voters. And Apparently GAF is bad for those people too (I think you just said that GAF was like, YAY TRUMP! land the other day though, so if you aren't welcome there either...)?

I'm not sure. All I know is, you hate a lot of stuff, and everyone that isn't accepting s*** being piled onto others, is a SJW.
Maybe if you changed your mindset about SJW being 'Social Justice Warriors' and changed it to 'STOP JUDGING WOMEN' that would be a massive step for you. One day, we could change it to 'Stop judging people'
 
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I like people, people that are nice to other people. People being mean to other people I like, I don't like as much. People having different opinions than me, without reason to provoke my opinions for reason just to provoke, I usually like too if not mean to others as mentioned above. My country is progressive to the point of foreign ridicule, I'm okay with that, that's not really me though and my country do suffer from it at this point but we do live in a democracy so as long as no foul play with election tactics I'm okay with that, otherwise I would move.
 
Umm...

Is this not attention seeking? Are you fishing for support? Or just soap boxing?

No, it was a letter to the admins, not a public post. If you mean I'm attention-seeking here, lol.

You used to be a mod here. Can you not read what you're posting, or is it meant to be ironic?

You're starting with misperception, then asking me to defend myself against it. I'm not going to waste my time disputing figments of your imagination.

You said something douchey, and you got punished for it. We all make mistakes, we move on.

And we all hold grudges sometimes. Move on.

And then you sook and whinge about something, that you actually look down apon? You say you don't like what they are standing for, you arent remorseful in any way about what you said, and pretty much arent willing to look at the larger picture?

Thanks for the condescending advice, but you're the last person I'd take any advice from. I'm not whinging, I'm expressing my opinion. You don't like it, too bad.

I'm not a member of those forums (I dont have the right email... And I'd be banned in 10 minutes for the s*** I say), but if someone on these forums got banned, and then continued to slag you off, would you even consider welcoming them back?

You again fail to understand what is going on. I'm not seeking to be welcomed back.

I'm not sure. All I know is, you hate a lot of stuff, and everyone that isn't accepting s*** being piled onto others, is a SJW.

More tales from your ass.

Maybe if you changed your mindset about SJW being 'Social Justice Warriors' and changed it to 'STOP JUDGING WOMEN' that would be a massive step for you. One day, we could change it to 'Stop judging people'

lol. So naive.

And very hypocritical, for someone who's insulted me on a level few people here ever have. But hey, I'm sure you enjoy the opportunity to act out your resentment against me, under cover of moral superiority.
 
Also, ND makes great games and TLOU is a masterpiece, this new game will probably be too, these scenes with lesbian kissing is fine, if man on man kissing I'd be fine with too as long as no raping is involved.
 
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No, it was a letter to the admins, not a public post. If you mean I'm attention-seeking here, lol.



You're starting with misperception, then asking me to defend myself against it. I'm not going to waste my time disputing figments of your imagination.



And we all hold grudges sometimes. Move on.



Thanks for the condescending advice, but you're the last person I'd take any advice from. I'm not whinging, I'm expressing my opinion. You don't like it, too bad.



You again fail to understand what is going on. I'm not seeking to be welcomed back.



More tales from your ass.



lol. So naive.

And very hypocritical, for someone who's insulted me on a level few people here ever have. But hey, I'm sure you enjoy the opportunity to act out your resentment against me, under cover of moral superiority.
I'm totally wrong.

You win.

I personally attack you. (You never once showed me an example of it, but I am open to it, because I do not respect you at all now. I loved that you posted indie games. Now you're all about hating people...)

You are banned from a forum. You come here whinging.

I stopped posting here, because you, and ONLY you make me feel unwelcome.

The only female forum poster that I know of, also feels unwelcome because of you.

Keep being you Andy.

Seriously, ban me.

You are not a mod in my eyes. You are prejudice incorporated.

Maybe you can make others hate themselves. #goals
 
Also also, Bellybama, are you a woman?
We've gone through this before.

I'm a dude, and then you make an overt message about being uncomfortable about me being a dude.

You can check the old Tomb Raider thread for our interactions
 
I'm totally wrong.

You win.

I personally attack you. (You never once showed me an example of it, but I am open to it, because I do not respect you at all now. I loved that you posted indie games. Now you're all about hating people...)

You are banned from a forum. You come here whinging.

I stopped posting here, because you, and ONLY you make me feel unwelcome.

The only female forum poster that I know of, also feels unwelcome because of you.

Keep being you Andy.

Seriously, ban me.

You are not a mod in my eyes. You are prejudice incorporated.

Maybe you can make others hate themselves. #goals

And you be you, too, Belly, full of resentment and blame.

If my opinions bother you that much, why not just put me on ignore? It'd probably be good for you. (See how caring I am?)

Wait what is going on?

Belly hates me. Part three.
 
And you be you, too, Belly, full of resentment and blame.

If my opinions bother you that much, why not just put me on ignore? It'd probably be good for you. (See how caring I am?)
And you're a mod here.

I loved these forums. They were literally a part of my daily routine.

You are literally the only reason why I don't post here any more.

So, keep f***ing blaming other forums for your own s***. Post your own douchey stuff in the political thread a d see how long you last Andy.

And by the way, you attacked me. I have the receipts

*Edit* annnd again, Andy, you are why I won't post here again for a few months. Keep telling people about the injustice you experienced. It must have been hard for you, to oppress people.
 
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*Edit* annnd again, Andy, you are why I won't post here again for a few months.

If that's what you want to do, ok. See you in a few months for round 4, I suppose. It would be easier if you just put me on ignore.

I truly think you've got some kind of unhealthy, negative attachment to me, the way you focus on me being the source of all your problems, your inability to feel comfortable, etc. How can one person have that much importance to you? I'm just one guy, for goodness sake.

And the level of distortion and hatred coming out of your mouth, directed toward me, is really something to behold. I've been at this a long time, and I've been in plenty of heated arguments, but I've never been the target of such personal animus, resentment, blame, and persistent vindictiveness. I really think you've got an issue you need to take a look at.

I realize I can say things in a rather direct way, and that some of my opinions can run contrary to how most people think, but that's me. That's how I've always been, and that's how I'll always be. I'm going to say what I think.

Again, if that's something you can't tolerate, just put me on ignore. That's what the ignore function is for.
 
If that's what you want to do, ok. See you in a few months for round 4, I guess. You know, it would be simpler if you just put me on Ignore.

You won't accept this, but it's my opinion that you've got some kind of unhealthy, negative attachment to me. I say that because I've been at this a long time, and I've been in lots of heated arguments, but the level of animus, hate, and nasty vindictiveness coming from you is something else, especially when it's coupled with all the distortions (I'm a sexist, I hate everyone, etc.) -- not to mention how you focus on me being the source of all your problems on the forum and your inability to feel comfortable. Good night, how can one person have that much of an impact on you?

Well, that's your issue not mine, so I'll leave you to it. I'll say it for a third time, though -- if you can't tolerate my views, and if you really find me that upsetting to listen to, then just put me on Ignore. That's what it's for.
I've never been vindictive towards you...

Some of the other s*** you accuse me of?

Yeah, maybe.

But mostly... Dude, you really aren't that interesting.

I just think you are a nasty person. You hide your hate behind some pretty words, some abstract junk, and then throw a bunch of shade at other people.

You got banned from a forum, and then said 'oh, lol, look at this, I don't want anyone to what I'm saying'

I was the first person to actually respond, and in your mind, I'm obsessed with you.

Everything is about you.

Look at the reason why you were banned.

f***ing hell, read you're original post about the letter? Can you not see that it's a douchey post?

No matter what, I'm going to look like a c***, just like you've made a few others feel.

I'm totally obsessed with you.
 
Umm...

Is this not attention seeking? Are you fishing for support? Or just soap boxing?

You used to be a mod here. Can you not read what you're posting, or is it meant to be ironic?

You said something douchey, and you got punished for it. We all make mistakes, we move on.



And then you sook and whinge about something, that you actually look down apon? You say you don't like what they are standing for, you arent remorseful in any way about what you said, and pretty much arent willing to look at the larger picture?

I'm not a member of those forums (I dont have the right email... And I'd be banned in 10 minutes for the s*** I say), but if someone on these forums got banned, and then continued to slag you off, would you even consider welcoming them back?

I'll say it again, Ive not checked those forums out. But if I only relied on your word, those forums are full of horrible SJW's that punish Trump voters. And Apparently GAF is bad for those people too (I think you just said that GAF was like, YAY TRUMP! land the other day though, so if you aren't welcome there either...)?

I'm not sure. All I know is, you hate a lot of stuff, and everyone that isn't accepting s*** being piled onto others, is a SJW.
Maybe if you changed your mindset about SJW being 'Social Justice Warriors' and changed it to 'STOP JUDGING WOMEN' that would be a massive step for you. One day, we could change it to 'Stop judging people'

I think he posted that letter here because several of us knew what happened over there and have already talked about it in this thread. By the way he wasn't saying anything wrong over there he was presenting a factual argument, yeah he didn't sugar coat it but he wasn't rude either, the mod in that particular thread just didn't seem to want to allow any dissenting opinions.
 
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I've never been vindictive towards you...

Some of the other s*** you accuse me of?

Yeah, maybe.

But mostly... Dude, you really aren't that interesting.

I just think you are a nasty person. You hide your hate behind some pretty words, some abstract junk, and then throw a bunch of shade at other people.

You got banned from a forum, and then said 'oh, lol, look at this, I don't want anyone to what I'm saying'

I was the first person to actually respond, and in your mind, I'm obsessed with you.

Everything is about you.

Look at the reason why you were banned.

f***ing hell, read you're original post about the letter? Can you not see that it's a douchey post?

No matter what, I'm going to look like a c***, just like you've made a few others feel.

I'm totally obsessed with you.

Yeah, you absolutely have an unhealthy level of hate and anger and emotional energy bound up in this.

It started (afaik) when you completely lost it in a thread about six months ago. You launched into an intense, extended, vitriolic personal attack on me, full of caps and cursing and blame. "I hate you, I hate you, it's all Andy's fault, I don't feel safe on the forum, I hate you." Followed by a PM full of more of the same. It felt like I was listening to a child having a tantrum, to be honest.

Then you hunkered down in the Unknown section for a month or so, complaining about me being the source of all your problems, saying you were going to leave the forum because Andy was mean to you (without any specifics, of course). Now you're back (as I expected you'd be) for another round of spewing distortions full of resentment and blame.

You claim I'm not that interesting, but you sure pay an awful lot of attention to what I say. And what I say seems to have a pretty powerful effect on you, to the point where you have emotional meltdowns and leave the forum. That isn't normal.

I don't take it personal. I'm pretty non-plussed about it. Occasionally a little irritated at the distortions and accusations. Mostly just marvelling at how weird it is. When I'm listening to you talk about me, it's like looking in a circus mirror -- you know, the ones that make you all distorted, like your head is 10 sizes too big, your body is a noodle, and your feet are huge. So it's hard to take personal. I do think it's more about you than about me.

And for the record, yes, I realize that my letter to the Reset admin was rude. I was letting them know I thought their mod policy stunk. I wasn't interested in having a discussion with them about their moderation policy, nor did I expect one. I was letting them know I was an unhappy customer, I wouldn't be back, and here's why. I didn't see any need to mince words.
 
I think he posted that letter here because several of us knew what happened over there and have already talked about it in this thread. By the way he wasn't saying anything wrong over there he was presenting a factual argument, yeah he didn't sugar coat it but he wasn't rude either, the mod in that particular thread just didn't seem to want to allow any dissenting opinions.

Yes, thank you. I was just posting the message to the Reset admin because it was the end of the story. Slow news day. I thought people might want to see it.

Btw, I hope people aren't confusing or conflating my irritation with Resetera, which is minimal, with my disgust at PC/SJW culture. The former is more of a laughing, "how ridiculous" sort of reaction. The latter is much more serious. I think SJW culture is patronizing, repressive, and counter-productive; but more than that, it's tied to deadly, dangerous ideologies such as post-modernism and Marxism. So to me, what SJW/radical feminist/PC culture represents is a very serious subject.

But being banned for 2 weeks from a game forum? Who cares. It's just a game forum. It doesn't matter. When I talk about the two in an intertwined way, some people may think I'm angry or complaining about the Resetera ban. I'm not. That's more of a smh, "how stupid" sort of thing.
 
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I think he posted that letter here because several of us knew what happened over there and have already talked about it in this thread. By the way he wasn't saying anything wrong over there he was presenting a factual argument, yeah he didn't sugar coat it but he wasn't rude either, the mod in that particular thread just didn't seem to want to allow any dissenting opinions.

Well its not very rude but its not not rude either
 
Well its not very rude but its not not rude either

It was sarcastic, but factual. Or factual but sarcastic. I ended with a crack about "social justice sensitivities," which I'm sure was the trigger phrase for the mod. Knowing what I know now about how SJW/PC the Resetera mod staff is, I'm not at all surprised they banned me. I deserved it. I was a bad boy. :laugh: