These wack jobs killed the other journalist...

Mr Bigglesworth

Mr Bigglesworth

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Truly, these ISIS guys are evil incarnate on Earth. I'm not one for hyperbole but there doesn't seem to be a way to overstate just how monstrous this organization is. If there was ever something to unite Americans and perhaps the rest of the world, this would be it. These people and their supporters need to be flat-out destroyed. We are well beyond negotiation, if that was ever an option.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/02/world/meast/isis-american-journalist-sotloff/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
Yeah, it's time to drop some nukes.

^That is hyperbole, but yeah they need to stop these guys and they need to do it soon. It'll only get worse.
 
This was inevitable. Considering what they demanded when they killed the other Man, this man's fate was sealed there and then. You would think these 'organizations' would realize that countries simply can not give in to their demands. These countries have no real choice but to say no. If one ever said yes then we would all be well and truly fooked.
 
Yeah, ISIS is definitely insane. Honestly though, I'm not sure what can be done. You cut off one head and another appears. It seems like there will always be extremists capable of forming deadly groups of terrorism in the Middle East. Maybe splitting up entire countries like Germany after WWII? Then again, that was responsibility shared by multiple countries. I think if the past decade or so has shown anything it's that we as a nation don't have the resources or morale to just set up camp and be the sole state police.
 
It's definitely time to wipe them out with some nukes. Give them a warning and a few weeks to clear out the women and children and then let it rock. Enough is enough. The Middle East needs to be leveled and i'd feel the same way if i wasn't American.
 
TDbank24 said:
It's definitely time to wipe them out with some nukes. Give them a warning and a few weeks to clear out the women and children and then let it rock. Enough is enough. The Middle East needs to be leveled and i'd feel the same way if i wasn't American.
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Yeah it's almost like I wish there was a way to move all the innocent people out of the area and way away and then just let the bombs drop all day err day.
 
TDbank24 said:
It's definitely time to wipe them out with some nukes. Give them a warning and a few weeks to clear out the women and children and then let it rock. Enough is enough. The Middle East needs to be leveled and i'd feel the same way if i wasn't American.
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The sucky thing about that is the little bastards will melt into the fleeing civilian populations...
 
I don't really understand the reasoning behind these peoples choice to make a spectacle out of their executions. If they believe they are scaring, or intimidating someone into submission then they are sorely mistaken. Those tactics might have worked for Muslims 100s of years ago, but they wont work in modern warfare. Death happens in a war, doesn't matter how you reach it. The U.S., and U.K. could spend months raining hell down on these Neanderthals from the air with minimal casualties. Then the armor rolls in along with ground troops with no intention of giving quarter to people capable of what these people are capable of.
 
Soda Jack said:
...Then the armor rolls in along with ground troops with no intention of giving quarter to people capable of what these people are capable of.
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Only that will never happen, from the US military at least. Rules of engagement and laws of war prevent it. You have these piece of garbage militants that care not for human life, beheading people, raping women, terrorizing populaces, spreading fear and warmongering. Your not going to defeat them fighting with morals and the recognized rules of war, not when they melt back into the civilian population and don't think twice about collateral damage. The only way they are going to be truly destroyed is to be as brutal and callous as they are.
 
BDaddyK said:
Only that will never happen, from the US military at least. Rules of engagement and laws of war prevent it. You have these piece of garbage militants that care not for human life, beheading people, raping women, terrorizing populaces, spreading fear and warmongering. Your not going to defeat them fighting with morals and the recognized rules of war, not when they melt back into the civilian population and don't think twice about collateral damage. The only way they are going to be truly destroyed is to be as brutal and callous as they are.
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Read this awhile ago, pretty interesting. These a******s make Al-Qaida look like reasonable people.
http://counterjihadreport.com/2014/08/25/isis-foreign-fighters-implications-for-the-us/

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One of the biggest reasons that America chooses to quickly get involved in wars is the fear of a repeat of WWII. I can see parallels between Nazis, and these people. Both have/had a leader that brainwashed their people into believing that they were/are a chosen people. Both are/were attempting to expand their borders, to create a large Nazi/extremist Muslim state. If something isn't done about ISIS, they will attempt to take over, or at least carve out a chunk of the Middle East for their ideology imo.
 
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TDbank24 said:
It's definitely time to wipe them out with some nukes. Give them a warning and a few weeks to clear out the women and children and then let it rock. Enough is enough. The Middle East needs to be leveled and i'd feel the same way if i wasn't American.
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It is not that simple though. This is not the Cold War era where countries were enemies and easily struck and recognized. These religious extremist and terrorist groups are spread across the world. These groups are made up of nationals from across the globe. They are in America. They are in Britain. They are in the middle East...etc. A precise nuke strike would do very little to solve the issue.

I see this as one of those things where we simply have have to do the best we can to survive until nature does what it does and humanity evolves beyond such things, or we get technologically advanced enough that we can somehow target these groups on an individual level. Either way, it seems we far from either.
 
menace-uk- said:
It is not that simple though. This is not the Cold War era where countries were enemies and easily struck and recognized. These religious extremist and terrorist groups are spread across the world. These groups are made up of nationals from across the globe. They are in America. They are in Britain. They are in the middle East...etc. A precise nuke strike would do very little to solve the issue.

I see this as one of those things where we simply have have to do the best we can to survive until nature does what it does and humanity evolves beyond such things, or we get technologically advanced enough that we can somehow target these groups on an individual level. Either way, it seems we far from either.
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I realize it's not that simple. Or else we'd do it. But here's my plan. We call up Canada, the UK, Germany, whoever else wants to live. Tell them to head here to the US and then we just nuke the map. Anyone who looks like a terrorist doesn't get let in. Problem solved.
 
TDbank24 said:
I realize it's not that simple. Or else we'd do it. But here's my plan. We call up Canada, the UK, Germany, whoever else wants to live. Tell them to head here to the US and then we just nuke the map. Anyone who looks like a terrorist doesn't get let in. Problem solved.
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lol...just out of curiosity, what does a terrorist look like?
 
menace-uk- said:
It is not that simple though. This is not the Cold War era where countries were enemies and easily struck and recognized. These religious extremist and terrorist groups are spread across the world. These groups are made up of nationals from across the globe. They are in America. They are in Britain. They are in the middle East...etc. A precise nuke strike would do very little to solve the issue.

I see this as one of those things where we simply have have to do the best we can to survive until nature does what it does and humanity evolves beyond such things, or we get technologically advanced enough that we can somehow target these groups on an individual level. Either way, it seems we far from either.
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The one thing that makes this group a bit different is that they ARE trying to form a state, with actual borders - they are capturing and holding land. Which means they are gathered in one place. Right now the hesitation seems to be that we don't want to enter land in Syrian borders to bomb these freaks, so we are focusing attention on Iraq. I think the Syrian question will soon be answered, though. I'm not advocating using nukes at all, but just saying that there are more targets for us to bomb because they look more like an actual nation and are trying to establish that kind of infrastructure.

My other comment is I hope that Obama is working on a coalition, the Europeans and middle eastern countries have as much if not more stake in this than we do, but for whatever reason we seem to be the ones that are involved right now.
 
menace-uk- said:
lol...just out of curiosity, what does a terrorist look like?
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In all seriousness tho, that's the real danger... we can't spot them. There isn't anything that gives them away other than catching them in the act. That's why they go unnoticed for so long, and it is up to the intelligence (lol) community to weed them out.
 
Muslim citizens should be closely examined regardless of the level of extremism they might indicate on the surface. Foreigners and citizens entering, or leaving the country should be examined. Any unsecure communications or money transfers entering or leaving the country need to be examined. There needs to be spies posing as extremists sent to the areas . Even if these things are being done, and no doubt they are, there are still ways that these people could get around them.
 
Soda Jack said:
Muslim citizens should be closely examined regardless of the level of extremism they might indicate on the surface. Foreigners and citizens entering, or leaving the country should be examined. Any unsecure communications or money transfers entering or leaving the country need to be examined. There needs to be spies posing as extremists sent to the areas . Even if these things are being done, and no doubt they are, there are still ways that these people could get around them.
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You've just described tactics (right or wrong) already employed in the US.
 
horns said:
You've just described tactics (right or wrong) already employed in the US.
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Yeah, I think that's why our southern border is of such concern. I mean for the past decade or more poverty stricken Mexicans have basically done an illegal unarmed invasion of the U.S.. These extremists probably wouldn't have much trouble at all getting into our country via Mexico. Probably the cheapest way as well.
 
Let's not conflate people seeking a better life, many children and families, with terrorists.

Another point being that the majority of illegal immigrants from countries with ties to terrorism fly or take a boat here and very rarely cross land borders to illegally enter the US. They also typically apply for asylum. Which makes southern border concerns even more ridiculous.
 
Soda Jack said:
Yeah, I think that's why our southern border is of such concern. I mean for the past decade or more poverty stricken Mexicans have basically done an illegal unarmed invasion of the U.S.. These extremists probably wouldn't have much trouble at all getting into our country via Mexico. Probably the cheapest way as well.
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The sad thing about the illegal Mexican immigration quandary is for the majority of immigrants, they're hardworking, doing the sh!t jobs most of us would shun, looking for a better life and upstanding people. Now they're getting lumped together with terrorist threats.
 
BDaddyK said:
The sad thing about the illegal Mexican immigration quandary is for the majority of immigrants, they're hardworking, doing the sh!t jobs most of us would shun, looking for a better life and upstanding people. Now they're getting lumped together with terrorist threats.
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Sad indeed. Ive worked with illegal immigrants in both factories and construction, and from my experience they are friendly, and hard workers. I do believe that they should enter the U.S. legally though. With this ISIS threat these immigrants are put in a very difficult situation. I doubt that the coyotes that offer safe passage for immigrants into the U.S. will turn down the price these extremists would be willing to pay for the same service. Then the immigrants themselves will probably not report any suspicious people for fear of being deported.
 
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Think about what you are asking for. You want to attack the Islamic State?

Can't bomb them. Too many civilians in the way.

Want to send troops in? Are you forgetting that we're trying to end our military engagement in the Middle East?
 
aceattorney said:
Think about what you are asking for. You want to attack the Islamic State?

Can't bomb them. Too many civilians in the way.

Want to send troops in? Are you forgetting that we're trying to end our military engagement in the Middle East?
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Obama did announce today that they are going to send more troops in.
 
So this Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary guy is supposedly the executioner in the videos. London rap artist turned terrorist. I guess he knew his rap career wouldn't beheaded anywhere.

 
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