Which 4K HDR TV are you planning to buy for Scorpio or One s?

Well the 2017 Samsungs are edge lit and not as good as the 2016 9800
which is Full Array.
Only LED sets that hold a candle to OLED's are the Full Array sets with the 930e from Sony being the exception as they have neat little tricks they do with the edge lit lighting.

Crazy that Sammy has nothing full array for 2017? Looks like I have a collectors item with my 2016 9800, lol. I love this set btw still. Get a boner everytime I play a game or watch a movie that utilizes its circuitry. Gotta get that X1X for sure...my TV demands it.
 
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Crazy that Sammy has nothing full array for 2017? Looks like I have a collectors item with my 2016 9800, lol. I love this set btw still. Get a boner everytime I play a game or watch a movie that utilizes its circuitry. Gotta get that X1X for sure...my TV demands it.
Yes you do hold it tight brother.
 
Actually scratch that- I have the 2016 model. I can't say anything about the '17s. I imagine they'd be better, but you never know. Does rtings.com have reviews for them yet?

I didn't see the review for the 2017 version but I can't imagine they got worse.
 
I should also note that I'll be playing straight on and mostly at night so viewing angles and glare are not a concern for me. Low latency while having HDR turned on is important.
 
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I didn't even know anything regarding Full array and edge lit. I just had a quick read up and from what I read, it is the local dimming on either edge lit or full array that makes all the difference. Can anyone chime in on this?

http://blog.bundlecity.com/the-diff...rray-and-edge-lit-led-tvs-with-local-dimming/

If you get an edge-lit TV, then Local Dimming is a must. They are not created equally though. the Local dimming on my LG sucks balls but my Sammy KS8500 does a pretty good job. Fully Array is Ideal though. FA costs a premium on a Sammy (the main difference between a 9800 and a 8000 series, I believe). It can still look quite amazing.

I should also note that I'll be playing straight on and mostly at night so viewing angles and glare are not a concern for me. Low latency while having HDR turned on is important.

I love the Curve on my KS8500. I feel like it adds depth. Never had issues with viewing angles even before I had a dedicated TV room. It's a preference thing, though.
 
I didn't even know anything regarding Full array and edge lit. I just had a quick read up and from what I read, it is the local dimming on either edge lit or full array that makes all the difference. Can anyone chime in on this?

http://blog.bundlecity.com/the-diff...rray-and-edge-lit-led-tvs-with-local-dimming/
FALD Full Array LCD/LED has thousands of LED's lined up behind the screen that can brighten and darken on different areas of the screen in real time giving dark blacks and bright whites at the same time. The more zones the better the tech works and screens are thicker because of the LED's being lined up behind the screen.

EL Edge Lit LCD/LED has the led's on the side of the screen,some times the top and bottom of the screen or around the frame/edge of the screen and the LED's beam the lights to the center which results in uniformity and all kinds of issues...BUT a thinner screen.

Id say go in a local electronic store and ask to see the ZD9/Z9D,75XE9405/940E,UE65KS9500
/KS9800,TX-65DX902B which are FALD best performers. Also with HDR you want want high peak brightness.
 
I keep reading that the 2017 Panasonic is only being released in Europe..correct me if I'm wrong
 
I keep reading that the 2017 Panasonic is only being released in Europe..correct me if I'm wrong

Hasn't that been the case for a little while now? hopefully that changes, always better to have more choices.
 


I read Rtings review for the Sony X940E, they give it a 7.9 for gaming and says fast moving objects leave a trail, they gave it 8.7 for HDR movies though.

I still love how OLED's look and the more I read about image retention the less worried I am about it because it sounds like they very rarely have anything permanent, it still concerns me though but not as much.
 
Vizios are best bang for the buck set on the market. I have one and it's great. Better yet I didn't pay too much for it. I have zero buyers remorse from it.
 
You can't go wrong with a Vizeo seriously I have the 15 and 16 P Series and both have fantastic detail when it comes to HD and 4K content.

I was very impressed with the 15 last night when watching El Chapo in 4k on Netflix, the attention to detail was second to none.
 
I've heard the new Panasonic 2017 oleds are really good, but cant find any for sale..are they out yet?

Only available overseas unfortunately. Luckily LGs OLEDs are almost as good. Was tempted to upgrade to a 2017 65" LG OLED, I currently have last years 55" C6. I'm going to wait 1 more year for the 2018 models.
 
His very first point is why HDR10 will be the mainstream format. It does not matter that it is not as good as Dolby Vision.
More 1080p content is made than 4K making it more mainstream so people shouldn't aim above the mainstream and go with 4K?
I suggest watching the whole video,seeing the comparisons,hearing the potential of DV and reading the spec differences like the 1.7 billion vs 68+ billion colors.

A person should aim for HDR 10 as a minimum but aiming to also have DV for the best potential and to be more future ready.
 
More 1080p content is made than 4K making it more mainstream so people shouldn't aim above the mainstream and go with 4K?
I suggest watching the whole video,seeing the comparisons,hearing the potential of DV and reading the spec differences like the 1.7 billion vs 68+ billion colors.

A person should aim for HDR 10 as a minimum but aiming to also have DV for the best potential and to be more future ready.

I watched it all. I don't know that the human eye / brain can distinguish 1 billion color tones from 68 billion. Someone should also tell the guy if he is going to do tech videos maybe he should hide the bare electrical wires hanging out of his wall. It doesn't give me confidence that he knows what he is talking about.
 
Going by that video DV is clearly superior to HDR10.
Watching Marco Polo and being able to see the slight light glare on top of the hill there was very Atmospheric.
The question then is can MS and Sony simply update there HW to support DV if the TV supports it??
I could definitely see DV taking off once 4K content becomes the Norm.
 
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I read Rtings review for the Sony X940E, they give it a 7.9 for gaming and says fast moving objects leave a trail, they gave it 8.7 for HDR movies though.

I still love how OLED's look and the more I read about image retention the less worried I am about it because it sounds like they very rarely have anything permanent, it still concerns me though but not as much.
I've owned the 2016 LG E6 OLED for 5 months, played games on it everyday and I have never once had an image retention issue. The LG OLED also has the "Clear Panel Noise" function to clear image retention, so no worry. I have never once used that function either. Once you go OLED, you'll never want to go back to LCD, not even the Sony Z9D. I decided on the E6 and not the E7 because the E6 has 3D which I love. Got the 65-inch brand new on Ebay for $2800 which was a steal 5 months ago.
 
I keep reading that the 2017 Panasonic is only being released in Europe..correct me if I'm wrong
Panasonic quietly exited the US TV market in 2014 when they phased out their plasma panel production. I do hope Panny's TVs will come back to the US someday so that we won't be stuck with just Sony, Samsung, and LG for high-end TVs. At £7000, the 65EZ1002 is insanely expensive though compared the Sony A1E or the LG E7.
 
I've owned the 2016 LG E6 OLED for 5 months, played games on it everyday and I have never once had an image retention issue. The LG OLED also has the "Clear Panel Noise" function to clear image retention, so no worry. I have never once used that function either. Once you go OLED, you'll never want to go back to LCD, not even the Sony Z9D. I decided on the E6 and not the E7 because the E6 has 3D which I love. Got the 65-inch brand new on Ebay for $2800 which was a steal 5 months ago.
Being a owner of a Z9D who saw purchased it after seeing the finest TV's 1st hand...I disagree as the Z9D is exceptional, expensive sure but I never saw anything like it..
 
Going by that video DV is clearly superior to HDR10.
Watching Marco Polo and being able to see the slight light glare on top of the hill there was very Atmospheric.
The question then is can MS and Sony simply update there HW to support DV if the TV supports it??
I could definitely see DV taking off once 4K content becomes the Norm.
The biggest benifet for DV, imo , is its full dynamic . It's always changing . HDR10 is static . My set supports both formats and the difference is noticeable. Also.. as you stated above . Marco Polo really shows the stengths of DV. Pacific rim is another movie that looks stunning using DV. Rented that on vudu.
 
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Being a owner of a Z9D who saw purchased it after seeing the finest TV's 1st hand...I disagree as the Z9D is exceptional, expensive sure but I never saw anything like it..
The only 2 things the Z9D has over the LG OLED are higher brightness (which is irrelevant to me because my eyes are already hurt by the OLED's HDR highlights) and slightly better motion processing (if you choose to engage motion interpolation). Other than that, the LG OLED ranks higher in overall picture quality in pretty much every professional review out there. But to each his own.