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Should I Buy a TV Now, or Wait for HDMI 2.1?


Q I’m looking to buy a 65-inch LG OLED Ultra HDTV to replace my Pioneer Kuro plasma, which is now 9 years old. Here’s my question: Should I wait until TVs and other components all have HDMI 2.1 connections, or should I just buy current models? Also, can products with HDMI 2.0a connections be updated to HDMI 2.1? —Alan McClure

A HDMI 2.1 is indeed coming, and it will be implemented on all manner of devices from TVs to receivers to Ultra HD Blu-ray players. But that doesn’t mean you should put off buying a new TV now. Here’s why.

First off, the HDMI 2.1 specification hasn’t yet been finalized, though that’s expected to happen sometime between April and June of this year. Once the spec is published, manufacturers can start implementing HDMI 2.1 in new products, which will arrive in 2018 at the earliest. So if you want to replace your aging Kuro with a new OLED, waiting on HDMI 2.1 means you won’t be able to do so until at least next year.

Second, though HDMI 2.1 will deliver a big increase in bandwidth — up to 48Gbps from 18Gbps in the current HDMI 2.0a version — it’s overkill for existing formats like Ultra HD Blu-ray, which require 18Gbps bandwidth at maximum. (And that’s only for 60fps movies . Most content on UHD Blu-ray is shot at 24fps, which requires much less bandwidth.) Why do we need a new HDMI version with all that extra capacity? Think of it as an investment in the future: HDMI 2.1 is designed to support forthcoming features like 8K resolution and 120fps frame rates. It also supports Dynamic HDR (something that the Dolby Vision format, which works with current HDMI formats, does as well), variable screen refresh rates for gaming, and enhanced Audio Return Channel (eARC), which will enable streaming of object-based surround sound formats like Dolby Atmos and DTS:X from a TV to a receiver.

Here’s my take on the situation: HDMI 2.1 is going to make interesting stuff possible, but much of that is still several years out. In the meantime, you could be enjoying Ultra HD movies with high dynamic range in both the HDR10 and Dolby Vision formats, both of which are supported on LG’s new OLED models, and by new Ultra HD Blu-ray players like Oppo’s UDP-203 (pending a forthcoming firmware update). As for updating current HDMI 2.0a gear to support specific HDMI 2.1 features such as eARC and Dynamic HDR, that’s something that HDMI Licensing says will “depend on manufacturer implementation.” In other words, it’s possible, but I wouldn’t count on it.


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VaLLiancE said:
Right but that is not its main features.
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Some PC gamers swear that is the feature of Gsync that was a game changer. Getting rid of motion blur and screen tearing. It also creates another opportunity for developers in their settings. For example, could offer 1080p 60fps, checkerboard 45fps, or true 4K 30fps.

For frame rate whores, Freesync 2 should matter.
 
OneBadMutha said:
Some PC gamers swear that is the feature of Gsync that was a game changer. Getting rid of motion blur and screen tearing. It also creates another opportunity for developers in their settings. For example, could offer 1080p 60fps, checkerboard 45fps, or true 4K 30fps.

For frame rate whores, Freesync 2 should matter.
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Eventually all of the specs will matter.
Most not any time soon and no need to skip a tv of today to wait for HDMI 2.1...
 
VaLLiancE said:
Eventually all of the specs will matter.
Most not any time soon and no need to skip a tv of today to wait for HDMI 2.1...
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I'm not skipping. I do understand why someone who puts high priority on frame rate, motion blur and screen tearing would though.

I think I'm actually compromising because of that though. TCL TV for now. I'll do the expensive 65" TV when OLEDs are tested for burn in more and there's Freesync 2.
 
Interested in the Sony 55 inch 900E but will probably wait till early next year...I like some of the suggestions here as well and Rtings and AVS forums....

The TCL arent sold in Canada...
 
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New TV rankings came out. Visio P series won mid range for gaming. 900E came in 2nd (due to input lag). LG C7 won high end. TCL of course won the budget gaming TV.

I cannot find P series anywhere to price compare.
 
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OneBadMutha said:
New TV rankings came out. Visio P series won mid range for gaming. 900E came in 2nd (due to input lag). LG C7 won high end. TCL of course won the budget gaming TV.

I cannot find P series anywhere to price compare.
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I saw the TCL report as well. Perfect replacement for my BR TV! But the old 1080p is still going strong at 10 years old so I'll wait a bit longer. So, on the Vizio P-Series, the 55" looks to be $977 - $999 and the 65" looks to be $1400 - $1699 (the low end is ebay tho). Just google "Vizio P series 2017". The TCL is $649 at Amazon and may get lower with sales come black Friday. I usually wait for a sale and buy my TV local just in case of issues...even if I have to pay a bit more. Total hassle to return stuff this big to online vendors if there is an issue.

Frankly, I'm also a best bang for the buck kind of guy so if my eye is on OLED and HDMI 2.1 in the somewhat near future (3-5 years) obviously better to buy the lower priced TCL IMO....investment is much lower and long term reliability isn't as much of a concern (probably my biggest question mark with TCL).

This line from the Engadget review is what stuck with me:
Although the TCL 55P607 fits squarely in the price range of what we've considered a budget TV over the past few years, it also ticks off almost all of the required boxes for a high-end TV today. In fact, we recommend it as the best TV no matter what your budget is.
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Also of Note on the TCL P-Series, the only difference between the P607 and the P605 is that the 607 looks to have the Roku remote with earbuds. The P605 is $599 at BB. Wish my damn 1080p set would break!
 
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Tentonhammer said:
I saw the TCL report as well. Perfect replacement for my BR TV! But the old 1080p is still going strong at 10 years old so I'll wait a bit longer. So, on the Vizio P-Series, the 55" looks to be $977 - $999 and the 65" looks to be $1400 - $1699 (the low end is ebay tho). Just google "Vizio P series 2017". The TCL is $649 at Amazon and may get lower with sales come black Friday. I usually wait for a sale and buy my TV local just in case of issues...even if I have to pay a bit more. Total hassle to return stuff this big to online vendors if there is an issue.

Frankly, I'm also a best bang for the buck kind of guy so if my eye is on OLED and HDMI 2.1 in the somewhat near future (3-5 years) obviously better to buy the lower priced TCL IMO....investment is much lower and long term reliability isn't as much of a concern (probably my biggest question mark with TCL).

This line from the Engadget review is what stuck with me:


Also of Note on the TCL P-Series, the only difference between the P607 and the P605 is that the 607 looks to have the Roku remote with earbuds. The P605 is $599 at BB. Wish my damn 1080p set would break!
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I've got my eye on the P605 from BB. Hope there's a good price on Black Friday!
 
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Just got an email coupon from Best Buy for 10% off. Really close to cashing that in on the 55” TCL to tide me over until 65” OLEDs are priced better. Would be a no brainer if TCL had a 65” version.
 
Friend just picked up a TCL p605 not too long ago and I helped them set it up. It's a nice TV and has some nice features but I noticed that the viewing angles aren't the greatest and there's some darkening in the corners and a little bit of a dirty screen effect.
I was considering a purchase myself but I'm coming from a 60 inch TV and don't want to go down to 55 and lose the viewing angles as well.

The Sony x900e looks really good and I've seen it in person several times. If they can get it down below $1,000 for a 55', I may go with that set unless a 55 Oled deal pops up.
Similar 65' TVs are going to cost $1500 or more so It's a tough call when you're coming from a budget 60' with pretty good PQ.

I'm also curious what the new HDMI standards are going to bring in the next year or two, so maybe better to get a budget set to tide us over.
 
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So I found out the Visio P is discontinued. At least that’s what Best Buy said. Kind of weird considering the ratings it was getting.
 
looking at the amazon . Com LG oled 55 inch b7 refurbished models.. 1500 bucks,1 year warranty..all reviews say its hard to tell the difference between a newly boxed tv. Thinking of biting the bullet soon..i have a 48 inch Samsung 4k js8500 in the bedroom but cant stand the clouding it gives.
 
chargerJ.. said:
looking at the amazon . Com LG oled 55 inch b7 refurbished models.. 1500 bucks,1 year warranty..all reviews say its hard to tell the difference between a newly boxed tv. Thinking of biting the bullet soon..i have a 48 inch Samsung 4k js8500 in the bedroom but cant stand the clouding it gives.
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That’s a great price for a 2017 model. I have a C6 and it’s amazing, upgrading to a 65” next year, cant wait to see the 2018s at CES.
 
chargerJ.. said:
looking at the amazon . Com LG oled 55 inch b7 refurbished models.. 1500 bucks,1 year warranty..all reviews say its hard to tell the difference between a newly boxed tv. Thinking of biting the bullet soon..i have a 48 inch Samsung 4k js8500 in the bedroom but cant stand the clouding it gives.
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Wow! I never considered refurbished before. The ratings seem to be really high. 1 year free warranty is good insurance against lemons. Saw 65” b7 for just over 2K. Making me rethink options one more time.
 
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chargerJ.. said:
prices are dropping..next thing you know 8k is out lol..gotta love technology
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And when 8k TVs come out, everyone's local cable company will still be churning out 1080i. Last time I checked, my local cable provider has ONE 4k channel.

Edit: I just checked. There's eight 4k channels.

- 4 sports channels
- 2 music channels
- 1 movie channel
- 1 "special events and movies" channel

So none of the normal tv stations even have a 4k version yet.
 
Just picked up a x900e for 2 grand Its priced at 2500 minimum for the 55 inch model in my country it sucks how much we pay for electronics.
 
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Wiseguy said:
Looks like $1600 is the new price for the LG B7A 55.
Amazon product

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-...th-high-dynamic-range/5935300.p?skuId=5935300

Maybe it'll drop a little more In price by black friday?
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Nice! That kind of changes things. This is why I’m trying to maintain patience through Black Friday. Can’t see it dropping more since OLEDs are usually excluded from Black Friday deals but it’ll be interesting to see what happens with some of the mid tier stuff.

65” B7 is $2049 for refurbished on Amazon. Suddenly OLEDs can be had for nearly mid tier prices.
 
Intellivision said:
And when 8k TVs come out, everyone's local cable company will still be churning out 1080i. Last time I checked, my local cable provider has ONE 4k channel.

Edit: I just checked. There's eight 4k channels.

- 4 sports channels
- 2 music channels
- 1 movie channel
- 1 "special events and movies" channel

So none of the normal tv stations even have a 4k version yet.
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exactly
 
So let’s say 65” Sony 900E is 1600 for Black Friday. Would you guys choose a 55” B7 or 65” 900E if prices were the same and you sat about 11 feet away from your TV?
 
Yes, $1300 after $500 Dell gc. And if you have a CC with price protection it would be even lower. Possibly $500 lower.

I'd love to get a 65 for around $1000-1200 OOP.
 
OneBadMutha said:
So let’s say 65” Sony 900E is 1600 for Black Friday. Would you guys choose a 55” B7 or 65” 900E if prices were the same and you sat about 11 feet away from your TV?
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The OLED. Better picture inky blacks. With the gray blacks and horrible viewing angles I can’t recommend an LCD. I’ve had my OLED for over a year and not a sign of burn in.
 
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So let’s say 65” Sony 900E is 1600 for Black Friday. Would you guys choose a 55” B7 or 65” 900E if prices were the same and you sat about 11 feet away from your TV?
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Bigger size easy choice especially with you being a gamer and oleds burn in issues i don't recommend them.
 
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