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sony doesnt release their npd numbers so it'll be just onjecture.

Oh, so that makes it kind of useless. Oh well.

p.s. If I remember right, you can still compare which versions of multiplatform titles sold more, so I guess that will be a little informative.
 
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Regarding the X1 launching in more countries thing, it's really hard to say because there are a lot of factors.
Is the Xbox a strong brand in those regions?
Are those countries' gaming populations big enough to make an impact?
Is the fierce demand for PS4s seen before Christmas going to remain strong?

Personally, I answer NO to all of those.
The regions the Xbox brand is strongest are English-speaking countries, and I think MS has played most of its hand already. The remaining countries will be a case of mopping up the crumbs.
Sony still has Japan up it's sleeve, there was no hurry to launch as MS was never going to take it and the Wii U wasn't looking to make any big moves.
Japan is less of a force than it used to be but it's still the third largest gaming market in the world.
The gap will widen, but the X1 has already established itself in NA, which is really its key market. So it'll be fine. No one should be holding their breath for a sudden jump in sales from the wider launch, though.
 
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why the heck is ketto being mentioned in this thread lol wth is going on around here?

It goes back about 7 pages.

Regarding the X1 launching in more countries thing, it's really hard to say because there are a lot of factors.
Is the Xbox a strong brand in those regions?
Are those countries' gaming populations big enough to make an impact?
Is the fierce demand for PS4s seen before Christmas going to remain strong?

Personally, I answer NO to all of those.
The regions the Xbox brand is strongest are English-speaking countries, and I think MS has played most of its hand already. The remaining countries will be a case of mopping up the crumbs.
Sony still has Japan up it's sleeve, there was no hurry to launch as MS was never going to take it and the Wii U wasn't looking to make any big moves.
Japan is less of a force than it used to be but it's still the third largest gaming market in the world.
The gap will widen, but the X1 has already established itself in NA, which is really its key market. So it'll be fine. No one should be holding their breath for a sudden jump in sales from the wider launch, though.

I agree with you, I don't think MS's launches in the other countries are going to mean big numbers. I think they are focused in their primary markets right now. I don't even know if they plan to release at all, in some of the countries Sony is covering.
 
You guys have a break from Valliance for a week (at least in this thread).
 
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I kind of see this as a boxing match. (Im a huge fan of boxing) Release was all about Microsoft and Sony sizing each other up and seeing what the other has on tap. Now that the initial hype has died down a bit, we're going into round 2. Its the battle of the software from this point on. Should be really interesting and entertaining!
 
You guys have a break from Valliance for a week (at least in this thread).
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Thank you Anderson.
 
Valliance, go back to page 11, start with post 271, and you'll get the gist.
 
I'm waiting for a couple of years for the libraries to mature and prices to drop. I'll be right there in the middle of the console sales bell curve in 2015-16 with all the casuals.
I'm exactly the kind of voiceless mainstream consumer people here debate about.
I would go into a shop to get a console A then walk off with an B because they were sold out, enjoy my console B and never think again about getting a console A. I wouldn't think about the resolution or the exclusives I'm missing.

All said, maybe I'll just get a Wii U. It's a really attractive purchase right now, and coming from someone who was really down on it when it came out.


I should have did this tbh. I'm already bored with my xb1 and I would be bored with my ps4 if it wasn't for bf4. I only got bf4 for ps4 because it was the better version so I could have easily been bored with my ps4 instead of xb1. It sucks even more because I'm a very picky person and hard to please when it comes to games. I'm not the type of person who will play peggle 2 or some stupid lego game.
 
this is still going on, all right I normally wouldn't tell people this, but I just got to at this point.Some of you nEed to lay the controller down both sony and Xbox fans, and go get.... Hopefully you get the idea.
 
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I should have did this tbh. I'm already bored with my xb1 and I would be bored with my ps4 if it wasn't for bf4. I only got bf4 for ps4 because it was the better version so I could have easily been bored with my ps4 instead of xb1. It sucks even more because I'm a very picky person and hard to please when it comes to games. I'm not the type of person who will play peggle 2 or some stupid lego game.
Ho blow 5 bucks on a rental. A game you normally wouldn't buy, never know it might surprise you.
 
Now that he's gone what will I do for entertainment? Hey do we still have that random though thread? I get bored when I get off and just want to post crazy a** $h!t. Yeah I know, but I can't because the kids are sleeping. Can only play when I work 1st shift, or when they are at daycare / out of the house.
MS is about to suspend my account so that really sucks to. Anyone know if I will still have access to all my Downloaded games?
 
I should have did this tbh. I'm already bored with my xb1 and I would be bored with my ps4 if it wasn't for bf4. I only got bf4 for ps4 because it was the better version so I could have easily been bored with my ps4 instead of xb1. It sucks even more because I'm a very picky person and hard to please when it comes to games. I'm not the type of person who will play peggle 2 or some stupid lego game.
You should be open-minded about Lego games. That Lego City Undercover for Wii U looked great and got good reviews, too.
 
Does he even own an Xbox?
Does it matter, I do not have a Porsche but I also join a Porsche forum. As long as you are fan & intend to get one, I do not see the issue.

Beside, its not a XBOX only forum like TEAMXBOX where most of us come from.

Of course, if someone start posting nonsense, or make nasty remarks, than its a cause of action for ban.
 
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You said sometimes PS4 multiplats looked better in areas than the pc version running maxed. That was untrue.
THere is nowhere that looks better than BF4 on pc ultra. I have AC4 on pc and my cousin has it on PS4, and while close, AC4 on pc maxed looked better. CoD:Ghost, again, while close, pc maxed looks better, even if it's an incredibly slight edge that doesn't make a difference.
 
NPD predictions? I expect nearly equal sales for X1 and PS4. I think MS concentrated heavily on supplying the US, while Sony was spread thinner, so that ought to counteract what I'd expect the normal ratio to be (4 to 3, give or take).

I'd agree.. I think both will be similar sell through numbers.. Just different regions, etc.

its obvious that Sony appears to be holding/ prepping for the Japan release.... So I'd expect another surge of sales when released there...

we'll continue to see solid numbers out of both for the next 3-6 months with Sony maintaining its current lead..

it'll be interesting to see the actual console numbers jump when the first wave of exclusives hit - I think halo will be huge later this year..
 
You should be open-minded about Lego games. That Lego City Undercover for Wii U looked great and got good reviews, too.

agreed pleasantly surprised by Lego marvel... Having a blast playing with the kids...
 
Isn't Ps4 already beating xb1 in the US and in UK? you think xb1 is going to magically win in other territories when it can't even win at home? I find that hard to believe. It's obvious that ps4 is the more popular system. It was obvious before they launched and it's obvious now. Why try to argue it? Better off arguing about the games.

PS4 is winning in UK, but we really won't know about the US until December NPD comes out. Regardless as MS has shown this generation, who ever wins the US and UK is at a pretty big advantage since the two aforementioned are the biggest markets.
 
I'd agree.. I think both will be similar sell through numbers.. Just different regions, etc.

its obvious that Sony appears to be holding/ prepping for the Japan release.... So I'd expect another surge of sales when released there...

we'll continue to see solid numbers out of both for the next 3-6 months with Sony maintaining its current lead..

it'll be interesting to see the actual console numbers jump when the first wave of exclusives hit - I think halo will be huge later this year..

Yeah, we've got some interesting landmarks coming up:

1. NPD (unfortunately, Sony doesn't release their numbers, so we'll have to speculate and look at differential sales of multiplatform games to get a clue)
2. Sony releases in Japan (gifs of Japanese people standing in line politely, bringing shame to all Europeans)
3. How will the exclusives do, and how will they affect sales (I fully expect Titanfall to trounce Second Son, in terms of its impact on sales ... that's a real crowd-pleaser)
4. When demand is finally met, what will sales ratios look like then? This will take many months.
 
You said sometimes PS4 multiplats looked better in areas than the pc version running maxed. That was untrue.
THere is nowhere that looks better than BF4 on pc ultra. I have AC4 on pc and my cousin has it on PS4, and while close, AC4 on pc maxed looked better. CoD:Ghost, again, while close, pc maxed looks better, even if it's an incredibly slight edge that doesn't make a difference.

Some are identical and some look better ac4, nba 2k14, injustice, trine and cod are my examples.
 
You said sometimes PS4 multiplats looked better in areas than the pc version running maxed. That was untrue.
THere is nowhere that looks better than BF4 on pc ultra. I have AC4 on pc and my cousin has it on PS4, and while close, AC4 on pc maxed looked better. CoD:Ghost, again, while close, pc maxed looks better, even if it's an incredibly slight edge that doesn't make a difference.
I don't get it. How does AC look better on PC? It is the 60fps? Because if not, then you are really just going on a rant over the most miniscule of differences.
 
I don't get it. How does AC look better on PC? It is the 60fps? Because if not, then you are really just going on a rant over the most miniscule of differences.


Because visuals go beyond just resolution.
http://gamingbolt.com/assassins-cre...nalysis-ps4-vs-xbox-one-vs-pc-xbox-360-vs-ps3
But in terms of visuals, both the PS4 and Xbox One pale in comparison to the PC version, which takes advantage of several Nvidia-exclusive features such as HBAO+, a type of ambient occlusion that individually renders shadows to an almost miniscule scale, leading to a higher quality of shading within a scene’s elements; Percentage Closer Soft Shadows, which bring more realistic softer shadows to the experience and which vary as the distance grows; and a custom TXAA anti-aliasing solution that combines multi-sample anti-aliasing and a temporal filter, though post-processing FXAA and SMAA remains for less powerful systems; and sun rays, which can act in unison with DirectX 11 to deliver realistic light shafts that are most noticeably when an object is standing before the sun or moon.
 
Some are identical and some look better ac4, nba 2k14, injustice, trine and cod are my examples.

I can only speak for the ones I mentioned. AC4 looks better on pc, sorry, it just does. BF4 ultra on pc is better all over, sorry, it just is. CoD:GHost is at best identical, with some parts better on pc. I've yet to see the PS4 being better. With that said, PS4 and pc are near identical, to the point of not being able to tell the difference....but nowhere is ps4 version better than on pc maxed.
 
I don't get it. How does AC look better on PC? It is the 60fps? Because if not, then you are really just going on a rant over the most miniscule of differences.
That's exactly what hes doing.
If he were to say with a capable pc and display he could improve the AA and make the resolution over 1080p while also getting a better fps AVERAGE then the 1080p console equivalent he would have a minor argument. But then he's making a different point as I am referring to 1080p vs 1080p. If he wants to say well the AA can be improved...okay but that's a added enhancement that is pretty minor/not noticeable much at all.
 
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