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A few side characters? The entire Dothraki army and a huge percentage of the unsullied died as well, that's going to mean something going forward. I'm also wondering if her dragons are going to be compromised a bit because of all the punishment they took, we can already see Rhaegal has holes in his wings now.

Taking Kings Landing without killing everyone in it would always have been a challenge, she was trying to avoid that and of course doing that first and allowing the Night King and his army to work their way down to Kings Landing and continue to grow would have spelled doom for them all.
Yes a few sides characters. The Dothraki & Unsullied aren't even characters.

As I said already, the Night King was just a way to even the actual big fight. This shouldn't even be debate, it is so obvious.
 
So never noticed this..



Jon actually says Go Go Gooo! Having seen Arya
 
Yes a few sides characters. The Dothraki & Unsullied aren't even characters.

As I said already, the Night King was just a way to even the actual big fight. This shouldn't even be debate, it is so obvious.

That sounds like bad story telling
 
Yes and no.

100% yes if the only point of them was to reduce their army but that isn't the case. There certainly was more to them than that. Whether it was a satisfying conclusion (if that is the conclusion) is another story.

You wouldn't really need to build them up to anywhere near to this degree if that was the case. There is no question they were built up as the biggest threat and not just a side quest.
 
It's clearer with headphones, but still not certain. Also, he could be talking to Bran. Watch the Night King. He shifts his gaze to, what I'm assuming is, Snow. Hopefully it's answered Sunday?

Tried it and 98% sure he says go. Also look at the body movement, like you would if you was telling someone to move


Also the night king was standing in the exact same spot as Jon when she snuck up on him in Episode 1
 
Yes a few sides characters. The Dothraki & Unsullied aren't even characters.

As I said already, the Night King was just a way to even the actual big fight. This shouldn't even be debate, it is so obvious.

He was a way to bring Dany and Jon together, otherwise they'd have had no use for each other.
 
Yeah, but that is what I mean by the Night King being a distraction more than the be all end all. Before the Night King Danny had more than enough to take Kings Landing with ease. Since the Night King it seems it will be a far more even fight.
Guess I'm seeing it as Dany not having as much actual supporters and no 100% loyal army will come to bite her in the ass at some point. Unless they write it where everyone just gives in to her, which I don't see happening since they've been planting conflict between her and the North.
 
So is anyone else super pissed off that they basically gave up on half of the shows story line with how they ended the night king? So all the white walkers/long night/war for the dawn prophecy/Lord of light/three eyed raven/ice and fire stuff just got thrown out in superfluous fashion with no explanation or closure.

If there's no more to all this in the last few episodes it's because the show writers have no clue what they're doing and Cersie is the only character they can write effectively for without Martin.

He was a way to bring Dany and Jon together, otherwise they'd have had no use for each other.

They are the last two Targaryens. There's plenty of ways they could come together or found use for each other. Martin has said specifically that there's way more to the white walker threat than we currently know, and they are not just some generic mindless evil character to defeat.
 
So is anyone else super pissed off that they basically gave up on half of the shows story line with how they ended the night king? So all the white walkers/long night/war for the dawn prophecy/Lord of light/three eyed raven/ice and fire stuff just got thrown out in superfluous fashion with no explanation or closure.

If there's no more to all this in the last few episodes it's because the show writers have no clue what they're doing and Cersie is the only character they can write effectively for without Martin.



They are the last two Targaryens. There's plenty of ways they could come together or found use for each other. Martin has said specifically that there's way more to the white walker threat than we currently know, and they are not just some generic mindless evil character to defeat.

He would never have known he was a Targaryen if Bran hadn't become the 3 eyed Raven which was something that happened because of the white walker threat.

If anyone is unhappy with how the show is being written they need to blame Martin, he has had plenty of time to finish the story and he knew this show was going to end at some point.
 
He would never have known he was a Targaryen if Bran hadn't become the 3 eyed Raven which was something that happened because of the white walker threat.

If anyone is unhappy with how the show is being written they need to blame Martin, he has had plenty of time to finish the story and he knew this show was going to end at some point.

That's how they chose to have him find out. Not like it was mandatory for it to be that way.

I agree that it is absolutely his fault though
 
He was a way to bring Dany and Jon together, otherwise they'd have had no use for each other.
Tgey could have done this in many ways. They may have had no use for each but they still had reason to meet.

Guess I'm seeing it as Dany not having as much actual supporters and no 100% loyal army will come to bite her in the ass at some point. Unless they write it where everyone just gives in to her, which I don't see happening since they've been planting conflict between her and the North.

Seems unlikely. As you said, they have been planting conflict and Jon is becoming more distant.

If anything, I see her giving in. Freeing slaves took priority. She put her conquest on hold for Jon. So, it seems to be her nature to give in to other things.
 
NK wasn't just to bring 2 people together. It was to bring all of Westeros together among other things. Which it mainly did.

It ended the war between the free folk and nights watch. United the north again, at one time bought dorne and Dothraki as well. The only ones who didn't unit was the crown
 
NK wasn't just to bring 2 people together. It was to bring all of Westeros together among other things. Which it mainly did.

It ended the war between the free folk and nights watch. United the north again, at one time bought dorne and Dothraki as well. The only ones who didn't unit was the crown

I see your point and it does make sense but at the end of the day without the Night King and his army Dany never would have had much reason to summon Jon when she did, she wasn't even willing to join the fight with the dead until she saw them for herself and one of her dragons was killed. If the dead weren't on the march Melisandre would have had no reason to go to Dany and tell her to summon Jon in the first place. It all ties together obviously and I don't think anyone should discount what the Night King meant (I know you weren't) but at the end of the day this is really about people trying to take the throne, fighting the Night King just showed who was more deserving of it but someone still has to take it from Cersei.
 
I see your point and it does make sense but at the end of the day without the Night King and his army Dany never would have had much reason to summon Jon when she did, she wasn't even willing to join the fight with the dead until she saw them for herself and one of her dragons was killed. If the dead weren't on the march Melisandre would have had no reason to go to Dany and tell her to summon Jon in the first place. It all ties together obviously and I don't think anyone should discount what the Night King meant (I know you weren't) but at the end of the day this is really about people trying to take the throne, fighting the Night King just showed who was more deserving of it but someone still has to take it from Cersei.

Without the White Walkers the entire story is completely different.

Its obviously not just a show about fighting for the throne. The title has the unfortunately made people believe that. Not 100% convinced the WW storyline is done.
 
Without the White Walkers the entire story is completely different.

Its obviously not just a show about fighting for the throne. The title has the unfortunately made people believe that. Not 100% convinced the WW storyline is done.

I have a feeling that Bran's story isn't done and that something will still tie into things. There's a ton of fan theories obviously.

I would be super disappointed if the rest of the series is just King's Landing. We didn't read the books wrong.

There's still so many questions. What about winter?
 
I have a feeling that Bran's story isn't done and that something will still tie into things. There's a ton of fan theories obviously.

I would be super disappointed if the rest of the series is just King's Landing. We didn't read the books wrong.

There's still so many questions. What about winter?
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Regarding that scene with Arya and the Night King, as folks have mentioned here and elsewhere, it does kind of sound like Jon yells "go" - and importantly, that he's yelling at Arya to go.

Further, some speculate that Arya had a White Walker mask on, which allowed her to get close to the Night King.

However, there aren't any shots showing Arya sneaking away while Jon distracts the dragon. Also, she isn't shown wearing a mask. I do like the explanations, but they seem to be pure speculation at this point. Perhaps the show will do a flashback of sorts in the next episode to explain it all.
 
You know who should have died or not been in the battle? Sam. He can't fight at all. How would he have survived?

And if he is going to live why the hell did they have sitting there crying
 
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They show a white walker in the scene just before. His hair sort of rustles and he glances as if something catches his attention. I assume quite simply that Arya just ran past everyone. She's small and just ran in.

This clip shows it (along with a hilarious song dubbed in)

 
Tgey could have done this in many ways. They may have had no use for each but they still had reason to meet.



Seems unlikely. As you said, they have been planting conflict and Jon is becoming more distant.

If anything, I see her giving in. Freeing slaves took priority. She put her conquest on hold for Jon. So, it seems to be her nature to give in to other things.
Could be, but that position would come out as a result of the battle. We'll have to wait and see, but I don't see Dany giving up her position towards the throne.
 
So Bronns had 2 episodes to get up north.

Would hope he doesn't but get the feeling if he does kill anyone it will be Jamie but Tyrion killed Tywin with the crossbow and past events have come back into play in recent seasons....

Tyrion did tell Bronn ages ago he would double any offer against his life.
 
They show a white walker in the scene just before. His hair sort of rustles and he glances as if something catches his attention. I assume quite simply that Arya just ran past everyone. She's small and just ran in.

This clip shows it (along with a hilarious song dubbed in)


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