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Currently the worst reviewed episode in the series and only the third episode to be rotten on RT
Well that is one of the three but I agree.
Most of this episodes problems are related to previous episodes and their decision to rush to the end. This episode is well directed and deserves praise for its production values.
Yes, rushed storyline is killing this season. They made a very terrible decision by truncating the last two seasons.
I'm pretty concerned about how they deal with who rules with just the one episode remaining. There isn't time for anything that isn't Dany or Jon but I'm not convinced that will happen.
How I see it...
V1
Arya kills Dany and is then burnt by Dragon. Jon says he wants to go back to the wall and tells Sansa, "You got dis' sis!"
V2
Arya is killed by Dragon at Dany's order. Jon sees it happen and kills Dany. Jon he wants to go back to the wall and tells Sansa, "You got dis' sis!"
Has felt like they were building to her being some kind of Queen for awhile but its hard to imagine how you can explain how most of Westeros just doesn't say f*** that in just one episode. Same with an ending that sees the Seven Kingdoms return. There just isn't time to make it work.
They teased bran in episode as a possible king as he doesn't want it.
So he can sit in the throne... eyes closed then Opens and BOOOM! Blue Eyes
So he can sit in the throne... eyes closed then Opens and BOOOM! Blue Eyes
Well it's not like they didn't tell us this was going to happen back when Dany had her vision, the city was destroyed and it was covered in ash not snow. I agree longer seasons would have been nice but let's not pretend they are just pulling things out of their rear ends at the last minute, I also don't doubt that Martin told them what he planned so far so they could use that as a jumping off point.
Well its not the idea that is the problem its the execution.
Such an unforced error. I could have understood if they had to shorten the seasons to get the budget battles but that isn't the case.
Hope it’s not to long before the complete series in 4K. Cant wait to watch the awesomeness this season in 4K on my OLED.
You know many of the cast wanted to move on as well?
It's why some got killed off in S6 and 7
Anyways I'll also say the music when Cersei and Jamie died was lovely.
As for some of the complaints... let's bitch cause Cersei showed her human side just before she died
The same woman so afraid in S2 she nearly took her own life.Really happy I've never needed reviews cause the episode was great.
You know many of the cast wanted to move on as well?
It's why some got killed off in S6 and 7
Anyways I'll also say the music when Cersei and Jamie died was lovely.
As for some of the complaints... let's b**** cause Cersei showed her human side just before she died
Really happy I've never needed reviews cause the episode was great.
What difference does it make if some of the cast wanted to move on? They didn't have to do more seasons. They just needed more episodes.
More seasons/Episodes doesn't matter. Still means they are tied to one job and will have to miss out on roles
I think the problem with Dany is how little time they showed her with Jon after they both knew the truth.
In 2 episodes Jon says he loves her but sort of pulls away. Is he grossed out because of the aunt thing? Is he worried about what she'd become? I get the dumb Stark genes (yes he's still got Stark) but they just never explained it. I have no problem with it, they just didn't explain it at all.
I thought the episode was a lot better actually. I thought Arya was going to jump in and stab Cersei and everyone lived happily ever after.
I thought the dragons were fine, the issue was how dumb she was in using them the first time. The last dragon to die was just flying straight and level.
In 2 episodes Jon says he loves her but sort of pulls away. Is he grossed out because of the aunt thing? Is he worried about what she'd become? I get the dumb Stark genes (yes he's still got Stark) but they just never explained it. I have no problem with it, they just didn't explain it at all.
I thought the episode was a lot better actually. I thought Arya was going to jump in and stab Cersei and everyone lived happily ever after.
I thought the dragons were fine, the issue was how dumb she was in using them the first time. The last dragon to die was just flying straight and level.
Oh and anyone else highly satisfied with how Qyburn died? 
Yeah they would to do the job they signed contracts for. No point in speculating on what the actors wanted to do because it has no relevance. Weiss and Benioff made the call. They could have made more if they wanted to and many would say they probably should have.
Dany burning slavers=Dany burning children?
Yes paid but tied down for most of the year. Natalie Dormer wanted to be killed in S5 due to missing out in various movie roles but the writers convinced her to stay one more season.
Others left for what they thought would be a big break with Marvels Iron Fist, the younger cast members are all starting to look too old for their roles.
They signed new contracts... new and much more expensive contracts. Easy to say carry on making stuff when it's not you paying s*** loads per episode.
And yeah the writers have had to turn down many possibly dream jobs over the 10 or so years they have been working on this and more importantly it comes down to George who was given more than enough time to finish the books which would have given them more material.
Its HBO paying s*** loads of money and guess what? They did want more. They probably would like to show to go on forever. So I don't think that point makes much sense.
I said it before if Weiss and Benioff want out to go get Star Wars money then they should step aside and let HBO find someone to replace them. GRRM not finishing the books is no shock. They started a show that needed at least 3 books to be finished. They couldn't have possibly not saw this coming. So any failures are on them too.
Their decision to rush it will only hurt the shows legacy.
He got 3 books out in 4 years then 2 in 11 and had been saying for years he would finish the books before the show caught up. He screwed up by writing himself into a corner and still has time to release multiple side projects instead of just focusing on these.
But then if this is right
He clearly doesn't give a s*** about the people defending him.
If HBO wanted to they would have simply said thanks for everything and replaced D&D but they didn't.
But then if this is right
He clearly doesn't give a s*** about the people defending him.
If HBO wanted to they would have simply said thanks for everything and replaced D&D but they didn't.
Well they started the show well into the slow down. So they knew this was at least possible.
1. I would love to be wrong but no way he is sitting on two books. One book I could see.
2. The claim is he made a deal with D&D not to release them. Which would be an implication of them really not even wanting to have the books to adapt. Unless we are to believe he finished two books somewhat recently.
3. HBO isn't going to get rid of them. Good for them for trusting the people making the show to make that call and not try to force them into keeping it going forever. Unfortunately ending the show was not the right call for the quality of its ending.
Martin wrote himself into a corner and has no idea how to finish the story. I still have the phone book sized book sitting on a shelf somewhere. Hundreds and hundreds of pages of characters wandering around doing nothing but with intricate details. Martin is an amazing world builder and has some amazing ideas, but somewhere along the way he hit a wall. He killed or maimed every interesting character in the first two books, and had nowhere to go, so he came up with more that had no relation to anything else.
I mean if he releases some amazing book and proves me wrong, so be it.
I don't blame the show one bit. I'm all for waiting for the payoff, but what ending? Maybe HBO should do a whole season about Tyrion jousting on a pig?
I mean if he releases some amazing book and proves me wrong, so be it.
I don't blame the show one bit. I'm all for waiting for the payoff, but what ending? Maybe HBO should do a whole season about Tyrion jousting on a pig?
If they had done 2 full seasons you are talking about 7 total episodes. They might not have even needed that many but I don't see how anyone could honestly say it didn't need more.