2019 Xbox E3 Conference Discussion Thread

Grade Microsoft's 2019 Xbox E3 Conference


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Phil is the King of Smoke and Mirrors. The act is thin as hell.

Disagree. He’s opposite. He’s been able to obtain by far the most funding for Xbox. Been able to get hold of the PC gaming stuff from the Windows team. Has there most studios. A competent hardware team. Visionary services (Game Pass) team. Leading backwards compatibility team. In terms of ecosystem, structure and funding, he has Xbox in the best position it’s ever been.

His marketing and promotions team sucks. Decision on how to promote games sucks. Only competent messaging is from Game Pass team and apparently Ybarra snatched control of it from their core marketing team.

People who don’t like him generally think Microsoft shouldn’t have acquired all these AA studios and instead should’ve focused on fewer AAA single player, narrative driven studios. While they have a couple of those studios, they’ll never equal Sony in this regard as that’s not the model that fits their Game Pass strategy and probably just means Xbox isn’t for them. Nadella and the investors were not funding Xbox to chase Sony’s current gen strategy. Getting rid of Spencer won’t change that.
 
For years...MS show no games

Now... they don't show the game's I want

Not really true, this is the same kind of conference they've been doing for years. Every year they brag about the number of titles they are showing only to show trailer after trailer with no deep dives into anything.
 
If that was Scarlett... Yikes

Greenberg said that was scarlet "gameplay" the guy can't even tell the difference between a cinematic and in game, he's a moron and needs to be replaced. I still can't get over him talking about game pass when he went up to accept that award for Forza winning best racing/sports game at the game awards.
 
Disagree. He’s opposite. He’s been able to obtain by far the most funding for Xbox. Been able to get hold of the PC gaming stuff from the Windows team. Has there most studios. A competent hardware team. Visionary services (Game Pass) team. Leading backwards compatibility team. In terms of ecosystem, structure and funding, he has Xbox in the best position it’s ever been.

His marketing and promotions team sucks. Decision on how to promote games sucks. Only competent messaging is from Game Pass team and apparently Ybarra snatched control of it from their core marketing team.

People who don’t like him generally think Microsoft shouldn’t have acquired all these AA studios and instead should’ve focused on fewer AAA single player, narrative driven studios. While they have a couple of those studios, they’ll never equal Sony in this regard as that’s not the model that fits their Game Pass strategy and probably just means Xbox isn’t for them. Nadella and the investors were not funding Xbox to chase Sony’s current gen strategy. Getting rid of Spencer won’t change that.

Nah that's not why some people "don't like him" it's because other people keep talking him up like he's the 2nd coming and he has been around at a high level position through all of the mistakes MS made with xbox. Is he better than Mattrick? yeah but that's not a high bar. I don't think they should have bought AAA studios, I said before they needed to start new studios or buy smaller studios and build them up, the issue is what do the studios that they did buy bring to the table? and we won't know that for a while.
 
Buying studios only makes sense if they produce great games. So far, I'm not sure if we've seen enough to say if buying those AA and AAA studios were a bad decision. I still think that MS is trying to make the Xbox the best multi-platform system, which isn't bad but it's not really pushing the envelope. Diversity is good, plenty of different games were shown but I don't think that's enough to really make this "pop". Sony has exclusives but after a good run through you're done with them. Xbox has a diverse lineup with great support services but a lack of new dominant titles, PS has great exclusives with an even more diverse selection, but imo both lack heavily on concrete MP games that really keep players playing.
 
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Nah that's not why some people "don't like him" it's because other people keep talking him up like he's the 2nd coming and he has been around at a high level position through all of the mistakes MS made with xbox. Is he better than Mattrick? yeah but that's not a high bar. I don't think they should have bought AAA studios, I said before they needed to start new studios or buy smaller studios and build them up, the issue is what do the studios that they did buy bring to the table? and we won't know that for a while.
They've been doing exactly that.

And I while I would have liked some gameplay for Gears and Halo, I wasn't expecting these new acquisitions to show off too much this soon.
 
Disagree. He’s opposite. He’s been able to obtain by far the most funding for Xbox. Been able to get hold of the PC gaming stuff from the Windows team. Has there most studios. A competent hardware team. Visionary services (Game Pass) team. Leading backwards compatibility team. In terms of ecosystem, structure and funding, he has Xbox in the best position it’s ever been.

His marketing and promotions team sucks. Decision on how to promote games sucks. Only competent messaging is from Game Pass team and apparently Ybarra snatched control of it from their core marketing team.

People who don’t like him generally think Microsoft shouldn’t have acquired all these AA studios and instead should’ve focused on fewer AAA single player, narrative driven studios. While they have a couple of those studios, they’ll never equal Sony in this regard as that’s not the model that fits their Game Pass strategy and probably just means Xbox isn’t for them. Nadella and the investors were not funding Xbox to chase Sony’s current gen strategy. Getting rid of Spencer won’t change that.

I mean in terms of buying time for two years straight.

I like the direction they're heading. But one new IP in two years is not good no matter how much they're stacking the talent pool for the future.
 
I mean in terms of buying time for two years straight.

I like the direction they're heading. But one new IP in two years is not good no matter how much they're stacking the talent pool for the future.

Outer Wilds is technically a new IP, it's just not exclusive since they bought Obsidian later in the process than Ninja Theory.
 
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Nah that's not why some people "don't like him" it's because other people keep talking him up like he's the 2nd coming and he has been around at a high level position through all of the mistakes MS made with xbox. Is he better than Mattrick? yeah but that's not a high bar. I don't think they should have bought AAA studios, I said before they needed to start new studios or buy smaller studios and build them up, the issue is what do the studios that they did buy bring to the table? and we won't know that for a while.
^this guy :laugh:
 
I mean in terms of buying time for two years straight.

I like the direction they're heading. But one new IP in two years is not good no matter how much they're stacking the talent pool for the future.

No doubt. Keep in mind Spencer has only been in his position since late 2017. Before that, everything needed to be run through and approved by Myerson...and Myerson said no to anything gaming. Part of that was due to Microsoft as a corporation going through a major identity and structure change and wanting to focus on their core products. 2nd part is Myerson didn’t believe Microsoft should be investing in gaming anymore since it never fulfilled its promise of helping Windows.

The Microsoft/Myerson spending freeze on gaming is still being felt now. Since Microsoft isn’t canceling projects started for other platforms, you’re looking at most exclusives from new studios being 3 to 4 years from purchase. This is end of year Year 1. Since Spencer only wants to show games targeted within 18 months of release going forward, next year was likely the earliest we’d start to see new things.
 
They bumped Fable for a Flight Sim?

Flight Simulator was a thing long before Fable was.

Not saying I agree with that decision, but it really seemed like they were going out of their way to avoid showing anything for Scarlett because why show off your new game on old tech? Of course, they also went out of their way to avoid showing anything for the next year in actual gameplay because ... well, life is like a box of chocolates when you sit on them.
 
Can you eveh buy joysticks for X1?

I would think they would have had to have something, if only for Elite: Dangerous. But I'm not one to buy those or fancy Forza wheels b/c I am cheap.
 
I don't know why the hype for Fable so much. 2 and 3 were terrible imo. Let's see a new Jade Empire or reboot of that franchise if you want to talk about exclusives.
 
I don't know why the hype for Fable so much. 2 and 3 were terrible imo. Let's see a new Jade Empire or reboot of that franchise if you want to talk about exclusives.

Nobody wants the new Fable to be like 2 or 3. People are hyped for a new Fable experience.

Jade Empire is owned by Bioware. And the Bioware of today a shell of its former self. And they're with EA.
 
No doubt. Keep in mind Spencer has only been in his position since late 2017. Before that, everything needed to be run through and approved by Myerson...and Myerson said no to anything gaming. Part of that was due to Microsoft as a corporation going through a major identity and structure change and wanting to focus on their core products. 2nd part is Myerson didn’t believe Microsoft should be investing in gaming anymore since it never fulfilled its promise of helping Windows.

The Microsoft/Myerson spending freeze on gaming is still being felt now. Since Microsoft isn’t canceling projects started for other platforms, you’re looking at most exclusives from new studios being 3 to 4 years from purchase. This is end of year Year 1. Since Spencer only wants to show games targeted within 18 months of release going forward, next year was likely the earliest we’d start to see new things.
His era starts when xbox one is over and the next gen starts.
 
I enjoyed all the Fables. I thought of them as lightweight, cotton-candy RPGs, things you played just to relax. I didn't take them seriously or expect a lot out of them, and they delivered, lol. I was tired of Molynuts, though, and I'm glad the series is in new hands.

I'd love a Jade Empire reboot, but I know that's not going to happen. Even the old Bioware, back when they had their mojo, didn't have the motivation to follow through on it. There would always be talk, but never any action. And then Bioware collapsed, so ... yeah, no hope for that one.