OMFG looks lkke trumps buddies were planning to kill a US ambassador.
I've only watched clips but I'm at the point where I see Biden, Klobuchar and Buttigieg as interchangeable and any one of them getting elected would basically be the same thing. I wish the moderators would have asked Warren why she decided it was time to leak that supposed quote from Sanders yesterday and then pretend that she doesn't want to talk about it today but instead we get "How did you feel when he said that thing to you that he just denied saying?" lol I read that Steyer was better than several of them (someone needs to ask him what Warren and Bernie were saying when she wouldn't shake his hand lol) and that Buttigieg was basically a bystander for a change. I have also read that none of them looked to be ready to go up against Trump and that's got to change, they need to start hitting Biden and Bernie needs to start being more aggressive.
You know, maybe we have this Trump guy all wrong. He really seems to have a good handle on the dishwasher problem in America.
They usually pull attention seeking tokens and put them behind him.Do minorities ever show up to Trump rallies or does it always appear to be a Klan gathering with all the white people?
I honestly thought Steyer was better than all of them.
I think what you are saying is why these fields should be smaller. If its going to be Biden people need to be sure he is actually up to it
I think we should weed out voices that all echo the same thing for sure, I think we need to keep people up there with differing opinions so people get a clear choice. I hope Biden isn't the nominee but if they keep letting him go without questioning his record in a more forceful way it'll lead to trump and his team doing it and making it look 100X worse. They don't have to do it like Harris, it backfired on her because it turned out that she had the same position as him and the fact that she already had t-shirts printed ahead of time proved it was a planned attack and while they all do that it comes off as fake when people find out about it.
I heard this morning from some woman whose name I forget but was on the CNN pre-debate show and is a cohost usually on Sirius XM Progress' morning show [edit to add: Jess McIntosh] that it's pretty well known that what Bernie actually said was that because Trump is such a rampant misogynist, he can weaponize that if he's running against a woman, and that's what the fundamental disagreement is about. I think both handled it okay last night - though CNN's complete ignoring of Bernie's response was inexcusable. They were the ones who reported it, sourced to the two people who Warren told about it when it happened, and they needed to either challenge Bernie with that, ask Warren to back up the claim, or both.
With that said, Warren doing the finger counting while Bernie was crowing about an election win in 1990 was pretty funny.
I don't see how both aren't hurt by this
Plus it seems pretty short sighted to introduce the idea of fear of whether a woman can win in an election where so many voters seem not care about anything other than Trump losing.
It was an amateur move, she has a lot of people working on her campaign who worked on the Clinton campaign and many of them still hold grudges, a lot of them are "never Bernie" people lol.
Cool story, bro. I mean, if she had told people about it two years ago, it would... Oh, right.
Putting aside the origination of the whole thing (which, again, I posted what I heard above), the way she handled it at the debate was the winning move. She's not going to meaningfully pull support from the Bernie Bros, but by tacking a little more moderate and putting in the reminder that women were the reason the Dems win in 2018 is a winner. Iowa is huge for the race, and over 60% of the voters there aren't firm yet. Unless klobuchar doubles her support fast, her voters in Iowa will mostly end up counting for their second choice because of the 15% rule. The polling after yesterday shows that she now has the highest net favorability, while Bernie dropped and klob gained the most. (See fivethirtyeight's debate in charts post, which is hard to link on my phone).
@ the Steyer/Bernie interaction
I could totally see the Warren thing being staged. The only doubt is that I have't seen it being pushed from her side, but it is definitely exactly the kind of attention grabbing thing she needed in the race. The timing seems really suspect. These candidates have people thinking about their every move, phrase, and even gestures.
This knocks her down a peg or two in my eyes for sure. I'm really disappointed. I'm still not even sure exactly what she claimed Bernie said, but saying he doesn't think a woman can be President isn't necessarily bad. I question how much harder it will be for a woman to win, that's not because of my feelings. In a country where Trump won an election you can't ignore that those things play a major role. I have no problem voting for a woman President, but a lot of voters out there do.
Pretending that misogeny doesn't exist doesn't help anyone IMHO.
I waffle back and forth on this more and more. Should we just go with the safe, boring Biden?
I definitely think he could said it would be harder because I think it definitely would be at least a bit but I can't imagine how he could believe a woman couldn't beat him. Regardless I think its wrong for it to be out there especially if she isn't willing to go into more detail.
Everyone worries me. Biden's flubs are going to be more obvious when all the attention is on him and is actually getting attacked over it. Bernie is so far left that I have trouble believing voters wouldn't be scared. I don't see how voters don't shut their ears and flee when they hear their private insurance is going away and their taxes are going up. Warren has never shown the ability the really win over the independents and you know the Pocahontas stuff is coming back.
Biden is still the safest bet and the one who would be more likely to come with the Senate.
I'm starting to warm to Biden a lot more. He's not a lot of people's 1st choice, but he is safe enough to be high on anyone's list.
I just worry about his energy in a long campaign. You know Trump is going to be running hard. One of Hillary's issues was her getting sick and not being able to campaign. Nobody fell for her "she's too sick" nonsense, but it took her off the campaign trail which hurt.
I also worry about him being "dull" to the base (especially the more left leaning). Are they going to turn out to support him?