The End of the World: A Political Thread. A New Hope coming soon!

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Aiight bear with me; I'm nerding on this because I think Media is being used so poorly it's having devastating effects.

This guy Marshall McLuhan used to be a media guru that says provocative thoughtful things about what he called the emerging 'Global Village' and he just fascinates me.


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A few key relevant points:

Violence is the Quest for Identity:
Well, this is to some extent for people who are tribal, but especially people who lack identity or feel marginalized. I feel like this relates to the Trump supporters who feel left out in politics, have unfortunately picked a complete fool to follow, and pursued violence or talk about Civil War or secessions. I think some of this even defines The Proud Boys. He also uses the example of people in rural frontier like areas being tough to compensate for not having much community identity, but I think people marginalized economically also have their sense of identity frittered away as they lose financial stability and status. Actually, maybe the saddest part of this is being MAGA fills this identity void. 😕

To be fair, I think some of this even applies to BLM. Now, there where some opportunistic looters in the mix as well as agent provocateur vandals, but I think to some extent there was a lashing out in that community to from being marginalized economically and racially.

Media and Demagogues:
Just a short but interesting suggestion that Hitler gained momentum on the Radio format at the time. It was more affordable for homes, but also he was taken more seriously just as an orator without seeing his cartoonish hand waving. I guess this just makes me wonder how critical Twitter has been to Trump as media format. Not as much about the election, but deepening his MAGA support over this term. Maybe by extension, his followers in D.C. posted themselves on social media despite this being so stupid and self incriminating. Maybe they didn't care as much as they did about going viral. This also makes me think of toxic Talk Radio in general like Limbaugh or Levin or in fact how Rush Limbaugh failed hard on TV and even Levin is only allowed on weekends for FOX viewers with nothing better to do but get even more angry.

Nostalgia:
I think this plays out in different ways as so much in entertainment today is either remakes or callback references to prior decades. Some of this is marketing and branding is cheaper for already established properties, but I wonder if there is a feeling we're rudderless culturally, or feel so much uncertainty, so we look back to familiar times.

Media Ecology:
This theme is relevant to what Gordosan was talking about. He discusses balancing media formats to support each other instead of compete or be wastefully redundant. Along with this would be a better appreciation for the strengths and weakness of different forms of media which I think are lost on the profit driven idiots who run media companies.




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A lot of videos going around right now that only show things from one angle and people are taking them as proof of police helping the mob. Saw one where a cop was waiving to people off screen to come with him, people acting like he's asking the rioters to join him but he was asking officers to leave their post and get back and help the others that were being overrun. The video in a previous post here showing people going in though a door that was just opened didn't show who opened it, people were breaking in through windows and opening doors but it also could have just been busted open we don't see that. Unless you see everything in a video on social media don't believe it or at least be skeptical of it, I've seen too many things misrepresented as something they weren't to fall for this kind of thing anymore.

As far as Trumps social media ban, why are so many acting as if this is some slippery slope? We don't need social media, if twitter, facebook and the rest all shut down tomorrow we'd all probably be much better off. Trump can still communicate with people the same way every other POTUS did before social media was a thing. I think a lot of them are just mad they'll have to do actual work now and not just cover his twitter account.
 
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A lot of videos going around right now that only show things from one angle and people are taking them as proof of police helping the mob. Saw one where a cop was waiving to people off screen to come with him, people acting like he's asking the rioters to join him but he was asking officers to leave their post and get back and help the others that were being overrun. The video in a previous post here showing people going in though a door that was just opened didn't show who opened it, people were breaking in through windows and opening doors but it also could have just been busted open we don't see that. Unless you see everything in a video on social media don't believe it or at least be skeptical of it, I've seen too many things misrepresented as something they weren't to fall for this kind of thing anymore.

As far as Trumps social media ban, why are so many acting as if this is some slippery slope? We don't need social media, if twitter, facebook and the rest all shut down tomorrow we'd all probably much better off. Trump can still communicate with people the same way every other POTUS did before social media was a thing. I think a lot of them are just mad they'll have to do actual work now and not just cover his twitter account.

I'm also unsure what anyone expected them to do. They let Trump break their rules for so long but at some point there has to be a breaking point. Many Americans also don't know what free speech means and think it means they can say anything anywhere with no consequences.
 
A lot of videos going around right now that only show things from one angle and people are taking them as proof of police helping the mob. Saw one where a cop was waiving to people off screen to come with him, people acting like he's asking the rioters to join him but he was asking officers to leave their post and get back and help the others that were being overrun. The video in a previous post here showing people going in though a door that was just opened didn't show who opened it, people were breaking in through windows and opening doors but it also could have just been busted open we don't see that. Unless you see everything in a video on social media don't believe it or at least be skeptical of it, I've seen too many things misrepresented as something they weren't to fall for this kind of thing anymore.

As far as Trumps social media ban, why are so many acting as if this is some slippery slope? We don't need social media, if twitter, facebook and the rest all shut down tomorrow we'd all probably much better off. Trump can still communicate with people the same way every other POTUS did before social media was a thing. I think a lot of them are just mad they'll have to do actual work now and not just cover his twitter account.

The Weekly address of the President of the United States (also known as the Weekly (Radio) Address or Your Weekly Address) is the weekly speech by the President of the United States to the nation. Franklin D. Roosevelt was the first U.S. president to deliver such radio addresses. Ronald Reagan revived the practice of delivering a weekly Saturday radio broadcast in 1982,[1] and his successors all continued the practice until Donald Trump ceased it.


Donald Trump during his first address as President.

Franklin D. Roosevelt after giving one of his fireside chats. The predecessor to the Weekly Address.
As the Internet became mainstream during the 1990s, the weekly address was made available on other media. George W. Bush introduced an audio podcast feed and Barack Obama introduced a weekly video address during his presidential transition period. Donald Trump continued the weekly video address for the first nine months of his administration, after which he put the address on hiatus.[2] He later released occasional "weekly" addresses before pausing the tradition in June of 2018.[3]


 
I'm also unsure what anyone expected them to do. They let Trump break their rules for so long but at some point there has to be a breaking point. Many Americans also don't know what free speech means and think it means they can say anything anywhere with no consequences.

Yeah people don't seem to understand what the first amendment says.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
Last I checked twitter and other businesses aren't congress so the first amendment doesn't apply.
 
Someone on my Facebook is saying Donald Trump is today's Thomas Paine. I don't get how people hold this asshat in such high regard.

Interestingly, they also criticize the recent actions of Twitter by posting the lowered stock price. I don't know how much they're in the market themselves, but it comes of as Profit First and Society Second.


I'm not gonna claim to be a well read constitutional scholar, but I think Thomas Paine is not strictly against all taxation the way he's often portrayed. I think I first heard in an Andrew Yang talk that Paine was actually in favor of a UBI.

Paine seems to be against organized religion and would dislike the mix of Evangelicalism with today's Republicans.



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Someone on my Facebook is saying Donald Trump is today's Thomas Paine. I don't get how people hold this asshat in such high regard.

Interestingly, they also criticize the recent actions of Twitter by posting the lowered stock price. I don't know how much they're in the market themselves, but it comes of as Profit First and Society Second.


I'm not gonna claim to be a well read constitutional scholar, but I think Thomas Paine is not strictly against all taxation the way he's often portrayed. I think I first heard in an Andrew Yang talk that Paine was actually in favor of a UBI.

Paine seems to be against organized religion and would dislike the mix of Evangelicalism with today's Republicans.



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Some are too quick to just say it's al racists and leave it at that but that really isn't true, of course yeah a lot of it is racists thinking they have a guy that openly supports their views but we've had decades of Republicans and Democrats (to a lesser degree) selling out the poor and middle class to corporate donors. We keep being promised things will get better and for many things just keep getting worse no matter who's in power and that opened the door for the worlds biggest internet troll who talked crap about both sides to come in and take power.

There are also social issues, now a days it's very popular in the media to attack straight white men as a group rather than individuals who have caused problems for others and that puts a lot of white people on the defensive. I know my uncle who is a big Trump supporter is also the wealthiest person in the family, he's worth millions but he worked 100hr weeks for years to get there, he gets pissed when he hears someone say "white privilege" he feels attacked and al that hard work he did is somehow diminished.

I know people will say that the term is more about not having as many obstacles in your way because you are white and in the majority but it's still a term that rubs a lot of people the wrong way and when they speak up they are spoken down to in a very condescending way, too many on the left now value dunking on someone through a tweet rather than having an honest discussion with someone and hoping to change their mind or at least offer a different perspective.
 
Those people in Washington are cowards they dont belong in office they don't do nothing but fan the flames and hide when s*** hits the fan.
 
I do hope they impeach him this time, last time I said there was no point because there was no way in hell the senate would act on it but there just may be some republicans this time willing to take some heat now to keep him from being able to run in 2024.
 
Those people in Washington are cowards they dont belong in office they don't do nothing but fan the flames and hide when s*** hits the fan.
Correct. hawley, cruz, tubervile ran like little bitches and hid in secure rooms with each huddling alone in corners in the Capitol.
 
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