A New Hope: A political thread!

Kerosene31

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All I can say is it has been a long 4 years. It has helped immensely to talk through the nonsense of the past here nearly every day and just wanted to say thanks to everyone. It was exhausting and rage inducing, but we never let insanity become normal. In all seriousness, these conversations have helped keep me sane during a time that was anything but. The last 4 years was not about simple politics. It never was. It was about facts, and right and wrong.

Biden will make America better for all Americans, of that I'm 100% sure. To put things in perspective though, don't expect to agree with his administration on everything. That's normal! Many people in our hyper-partisan world want to make that seem like disloyalty, but it isn't. We're not always going to agree on the best way forward, but it is important that we agree that moving forward is in everyone's best interests. He's also going to face a lot of challenges moving forward, so don't get frustrated if things don't move as fast as we'd like. He's got a lot of rebuilding to do, and ultimately many of the former regime's supporters are still in positions of power. It will not be easy, and it will not be fixed overnight. It might not be fixed in 4 years. We will move forward though, and even people who voted another way will benefit, whether they realize it or not.

For anyone out there reading this who maybe voted a different way, all I ask is that you listen to Joe Biden. Listen to his words, not the filter you get through Fox News. Give him a chance. Listen to him and make up your own mind. Don't retreat into your bubble. There's way more than two sides. I'm a lifelong independent who has voted Republican (a long time ago) and Democrat. Those things are just labels. Truth and values should always stay steady, no matter what the label is currently.
 

GordoSan

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Time to clean up! Day-1 executive orders list:

  • Launch a “100 Days Masking Challenge” and Leading by Example in the Federal Government
  • Re-Engage with the World Health Organization to Make Americans and the World Safer
  • Structure Our Federal Government to Coordinate a Unified National Response [to Covid-19]
  • Extend Eviction and Foreclosure Moratoriums
  • Extend Student Loan Pause
  • Rejoin the Paris Agreement on Climate Change
  • Roll Back President Trump’s Environmental Actions in Order to Protect Public Health and the Environment and Restore Science
  • Launch a Whole-of-Government Initiative to Advance Racial Equity
  • Reverse President Trump’s Executive Order Excluding Undocumented Immigrants from the Reapportionment Count
  • Preserve and Fortify Protections for Dreamers
  • Reverse the Muslim Ban
  • Repeal of Trump Interior Enforcement Executive Order
  • Stop Border Wall Construction
  • Deferred Enforced Departure for Liberians Presidential Memorandum
  • Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation
  • Executive Branch Personnel Ethics Executive Order
  • Regulatory Process Executive Order and Presidential Memorandum
 

Plainview

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And I would have no place to post this

Awkward Pop Tv GIF by Schitt's Creek
 

tumorman

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So here's a question that ya'll may or may not know the answer to.

I have privatized student loans through SunTrust, but the rates are set by the Fed. Does that mean that I could still qualify for the $10k forgiveness if it happens? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
 

Plainview

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So here's a question that ya'll may or may not know the answer to.

I have privatized student loans through SunTrust, but the rates are set by the Fed. Does that mean that I could still qualify for the $10k forgiveness if it happens? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Probably not. It's aimed at federal loans.
 

Plainview

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In all these years I have never once personally written, or spoken the "P" word when talking about donald trump. President Joe Biden... that is the first time I've written the "P" word before a person's name since Barack Obama.
 
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cmstophe

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Didn’t vote for either of the two main guys but I am glad Trump is out. Not sure Biden/Harris is really the panacea people are acting like, or the answer to any of our problems, but I do welcome a return to normalcy and at least a rudimentary level of respectability. As a moderate I can probably talk myself into Biden if I really tried, but some of the radical dems lurking in the shadows behind him have me just as wary as whatever the hell you want to call the last four years.

So we’ll see.
 

Plainview

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Didn’t vote for either of the two main guys but I am glad Trump is out. Not sure Biden/Harris is really the panacea people are acting like, or the answer to any of our problems, but I do welcome a return to normalcy and at least a rudimentary level of respectability. As a moderate I can probably talk myself into Biden if I really tried, but some of the radical dems lurking in the shadows behind him have me just as wary as whatever the hell you want to call the last four years.

So we’ll see.
Curious as to what you consider "radical."
 
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