Anyone doing the low/no carb diet?

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It's worked for me so far. Been on it for about five weeks or so and lost two inches around the waistline. I haven't been exercising though, which I probably should start doing.

I do miss all the carbs though and having to replace all of my foods/snacks with some form of protein has been costly.
 
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It's a delicate balance. You need carbs to retain muscle. At the same time they need to be kept low to shred fat.

And yes, start exercising. Do anything. Just start somewhere.
 
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I have for most of the summer. Down about 15lbs so far. I've tried to keep net carbs under 100 grams a day. Some days closer to 50, others probably slightly over, but it's definitely helped.
 
Yeah, I am, too, the carnivore version. Never did a diet before in my life, but I saw Jordan Peterson talk about it on Joe Rogan, then heard Shawn Baker talk about it there, too. I was getting too fat, so I figured why not try it for a month. I liked the simplicity of it (no need to count calories, monitor food groups, monitor macros or whatever), just eat meat when you're hungry, the end. I liked learning about what the science actually showed, vs. what you constantly hear. My info on nutrition was badly out of date. I continue to learn.

Very good results so far. I'm about 7 weeks in. Lost 20 pounds without effort, additional exercise, or hunger. My mental energy is much better -- I am mentally sharp throughout the day, rather than having peaks and valleys like before. My mood is better. My sleep is better. My exercise capacity is better. My chronic allergies have disappeared, so I don't need Nasacort every day. My blood pressure has dropped, and so I don't need a blood pressure med I was on, either. I just feel better all around.
 
Yeah, I am, too, the carnivore version. Never did a diet before in my life, but I saw Jordan Peterson talk about it on Joe Rogan, then heard Shawn Baker talk about it there, too. I was getting too fat, so I figured why not try it for a month. I liked the simplicity of it (no need to count calories, monitor food groups, monitor macros or whatever), just eat meat when you're hungry, the end. I liked learning about what the science actually showed, vs. what you constantly hear. My info on nutrition was badly out of date. I continue to learn.

Very good results so far. I'm about 7 weeks in. Lost 20 pounds without effort or hunger. My mental energy is much better -- I am mentally sharp throughout the day, rather than having peaks and valleys like before. My mood is better. My sleep is better. My exercise capacity is better. My chronic allergies have disappeared, so I don't need Nasacort every day. My blood pressure has dropped, and so I don't need a blood pressure med I was on, either. I just feel better all around.

Please be careful.

I find diet gurus to be modern day charlatans almost all of the time.
 
I'm trying to get as massive as possible as punishment for my pallbearers.
 
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Please be careful.

I find diet gurus to be modern day charlatans almost all of the time.

My feeling, too, which is why I've never been on a diet before. No marketing involved with this one, though; no gurus trying to peddle something to get rich. Just lots of anecdotal reports of positive changes, including from physicians. And I can't argue with the results.
 
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I've seen 2 interesting extreme diets. These guys went Carnivore while Kevin Smith and Penn Jillette started with a Potato diet before going vegan with great success losing weight.

I considered what these diets have in common and eliminated bread and milk. I initially lost 6 pounds quickly, then it leveled off. It does feel like some inches went down on my waist.

I did not try Carnivore because that seems like asking for horrible constipation. I drive a yard truck all day at work and I can't deal with that.

I've been eating meat and veggies including the evil starches like potatoes or bananas or beans. Trying carrots with hummus as a snack. Still having eggs or meat. No bread. Some shredded cheddar on the potatoes, but not drinking milk.

Maybe this is a starting point and ill try tweaking it. I do incidentally have physical activity from my job. I sit while driving, but have to open or close the trailer doors.

EDIT: I do wonder if food intolerance or combinations of food are a problem. Jordan Peterson being an extreme example. When I have bread with potatoes I get horribly bloated, but potatoes alone is fine. I'm not sure if Bread Carbs are my issue of perhaps Gluten/Flour. I've wondered if there could be an issue with milk lactose to.
 
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Love bread but haven't had it much all summer. Used to be Subway for lunch all the time but sub so while healthy, a lot of bread. Just switched it to salad so same internals but no bread, and just as filling. About the only time I eat it is during a family meal (like 3 times a year?) and garlic bread because life.
 
I've been on keto since early January and am down about 55 pounds now. More importantly, I've gone from two doses of 50 units of insulin daily to one of 20-25 units once every couple of days or so, depending on what my numbers look like. My wife is actually planning on starting it tomorrow, so hopefully it works for her as well.
 
I did not try Carnivore because that seems like asking for horrible constipation. I drive a yard truck all day at work and I can't deal with that.

Some people get constipation during the adjustment phase, which usually lasts 1 or 2 weeks. Most people don't. I didn't. I got some diahrea, though, along with "keto flu" symptoms for the first week (mentally foggy, kind of tired and irritable). That passes after a week or two, though. What happens after you get through the adjustment phase is that you'll notice your poop size shrink dramatically and your bowel movements become less frequent. That's because meat is so well-absorbed by the system, which is, after all, made of meat.

I've been on keto since early January and am down about 55 pounds now. More importantly, I've gone from two doses of 50 units of insulin daily to one of 20-25 units once every couple of days or so, depending on what my numbers look like. My wife is actually planning on starting it tomorrow, so hopefully it works for her as well.

That's awesome. I love that it's helping your diabetes.
 
I'm curious if you guys are following a plan or diet book or just eating steaks and burgers. Maybe eggs and sausage breakfasts? What are examples of a Carnivore Diet meal plan? Especially for work. (I drive and have to eat in the truck on the go)


I'm still not sure I want to go all in on something like this, but maybe a minimal meat & potatoes thing with some greens, peppers, tomatoes, mushrooms, and even some potato. I think I'll still keep cutting out the milk and bread and cut out some fruits like banana.
 
You should go on the psychotic trucker diet.

Roadkill and wayward hitchhikers.
 
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Yeah, I am, too, the carnivore version. Never did a diet before in my life, but I saw Jordan Peterson talk about it on Joe Rogan, then heard Shawn Baker talk about it there, too. I was getting too fat, so I figured why not try it for a month. I liked the simplicity of it (no need to count calories, monitor food groups, monitor macros or whatever), just eat meat when you're hungry, the end. I liked learning about what the science actually showed, vs. what you constantly hear. My info on nutrition was badly out of date. I continue to learn.

Very good results so far. I'm about 7 weeks in. Lost 20 pounds without effort, additional exercise, or hunger. My mental energy is much better -- I am mentally sharp throughout the day, rather than having peaks and valleys like before. My mood is better. My sleep is better. My exercise capacity is better. My chronic allergies have disappeared, so I don't need Nasacort every day. My blood pressure has dropped, and so I don't need a blood pressure med I was on, either. I just feel better all around.


That's really good. I wonder if the added creatine in meat is helping your mood. It's more prevalent in meats and I started supplementing it about two years ago and noticed a difference.
 
I'm curious if you guys are following a plan or diet book or just eating steaks and burgers. Maybe eggs and sausage breakfasts? What are examples of a Carnivore Diet meal plan? Especially for work. (I drive and have to eat in the truck on the go)

On Carnivore, there's no meal plan or diet book. It's really straightforward -- you just eat food from the animal kingdom, and you avoid just about everything else. So it includes:

- beef
- pork
- chicken
- fish
- eggs
- butter is ok
- salt and pepper is ok, so are most other spices
- hard cheese is ok (though most people limit dairy; avoid milk)
- coffee (black) is ok (thank goodness)

If you're eating on the road, you could get plain burgers or chicken at a fast food restaurant, tossing away the buns. You could also stop and grab a steak, too, but that would be more expensive. Some beef jerky may be ok, too, although I'm not sure about that, because some of them seem loaded with nitrates and sugar.

Here's Shawn Baker, MD, giving an overview of what you eat. He's a 50 year old orthopedic surgeon and body builder. Set some world records on the diet. He's a good source of info, imo, because he's a physician, knows the science well, doesn't seem to be trying to monetize this, just trying to get the word out.


 
On Carnivore, there's no meal plan or diet book. It's really straightforward -- you just eat food from the animal kingdom, and you avoid just about everything else. So it includes:

- beef
- pork
- chicken
- fish
- eggs
- butter is ok
- salt and pepper is ok, so are most other spices
- hard cheese is ok (though most people limit dairy; avoid milk)
- coffee (black) is ok (thank goodness)

If you're eating on the road, you could get plain burgers or chicken at a fast food restaurant, tossing away the buns. You could also stop and grab a steak, too, but that would be more expensive. Some beef jerky may be ok, too, although I'm not sure about that, because some of them seem loaded with nitrates and sugar.

Here's Shawn Baker, MD, giving an overview of what you eat. He's a 50 year old orthopedic surgeon and body builder. Set some world records on the diet. He's a good source of info, imo, because he's a physician, knows the science well, doesn't seem to be trying to monetize this, just trying to get the word out.



Make sure the butter and beef are grass fed.
 
Yeah I've seen both Shawn Baker and Jordan Peterson on the Joe Rogan show.

So far at this point, I'm in agreement on Milk with minimal Cheddar Cheese.

I'm a truck driver so coffee is a must. Black is fine.


For a while, I was just packing a simple PB & J sandwich, but I've come think regularly eating bread has been bad. Or having bananas that I think are also bad. For what it's worth, I think green bananas are better while ripe yellow bananas turn more sugary, so I don't want to deal with that. I quit the bread just over a week ago and I'm quitting the bananas today.


I wondered if anything like Recipes even applies to this or is it just a seasoned beef patty or grilled chicken(assume no breading) for unbreaded fish fillets. How about Hot Wings if using Buffalo Sauce with very basic ingredients? Again no breading just chicken on the bone with skin. Maybe just a little Bleu Cheese :p ?



What is for lunch at work? Do you just bring a burger patty cooked at home and microwave it? Or do you use Deli Lunch Meat? Do you ever eat out?

Is Beef Jerky allowed or a particular brand?



One of the generally weird things I try to figure out with diet relates to my job. I work in a yard as a trailer mover guy between the yard and the docks. I don't have a scheduled lunch break and it's hard to get away for a sit down meal. Sometimes between job sites, I can run in to a Kwik Trip for a coffee refill and look for something to grab. Actually, today I grabbed some Brats with no bun. Other times when I'm busy I grabbed a burger from there and tossed away the bun.

I'm not sure what kind of jobs everyone else has, but I imagine most people can eat at a table or desk and have a break room fridge n' microwave. I wondered how you would do lunch if you had to eat while driving a truck every day.

I drive a piece of crap like this everyday and having coffee or getting some kind of lunch while running trailers.
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Yeah I've seen both Shawn Baker and Jordan Peterson on the Joe Rogan show.

So far at this point, I'm in agreement on Milk with minimal Cheddar Cheese.

I'm a truck driver so coffee is a must. Black is fine.


For a while, I was just packing a simple PB & J sandwich, but I've come think regularly eating bread has been bad. Or having bananas that I think are also bad. For what it's worth, I think green bananas are better while ripe yellow bananas turn more sugary, so I don't want to deal with that. I quit the bread just over a week ago and I'm quitting the bananas today.


I wondered if anything like Recipes even applies to this or is it just a seasoned beef patty or grilled chicken(assume no breading) for unbreaded fish fillets. How about Hot Wings if using Buffalo Sauce with very basic ingredients? Again no breading just chicken on the bone with skin. Maybe just a little Bleu Cheese :p ?



What is for lunch at work? Do you just bring a burger patty cooked at home and microwave it? Or do you use Deli Lunch Meat? Do you ever eat out?

Is Beef Jerky allowed or a particular brand?



One of the generally weird things I try to figure out with diet relates to my job. I work in a yard as a trailer mover guy between the yard and the docks. I don't have a scheduled lunch break and it's hard to get away for a sit down meal. Sometimes between job sites, I can run in to a Kwik Trip for a coffee refill and look for something to grab. Actually, today I grabbed some Brats with no bun. Other times when I'm busy I grabbed a burger from there and tossed away the bun.

I'm not sure what kind of jobs everyone else has, but I imagine most people can eat at a table or desk and have a break room fridge n' microwave. I wondered how you would do lunch if you had to eat while driving a truck every day.

I drive a piece of crap like this everyday and having coffee or getting some kind of lunch while running trailers.
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I'm on keto so my main thing is just keeping the net carbs down more so than just animals or the like. I do eggs and cheese at breakfast, celery cheese and almonds for lunch and chicken thighs for dinner as the default and then work in other foods when we go out or when we grill or sometimes when my wife cooks. She has made cloud bread, which is basically eggs, which is helping her out now that she is starting the diet. I do have a five guys order saved that is lettuce wrapped double bacon cheeseburger with mushrooms and mustard and I usually do that a couple times a month.
 
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IMO, moderation is the key. With exercise, food, everything. I think you can have a piece of cake, but you can't have it every night.
 
On Carnivore, there's no meal plan or diet book. It's really straightforward -- you just eat food from the animal kingdom, and you avoid just about everything else. So it includes:

- beef
- pork
- chicken
- fish
- eggs
- butter is ok
- salt and pepper is ok, so are most other spices
- hard cheese is ok (though most people limit dairy; avoid milk)
- coffee (black) is ok (thank goodness)

If you're eating on the road, you could get plain burgers or chicken at a fast food restaurant, tossing away the buns. You could also stop and grab a steak, too, but that would be more expensive. Some beef jerky may be ok, too, although I'm not sure about that, because some of them seem loaded with nitrates and sugar.

Here's Shawn Baker, MD, giving an overview of what you eat. He's a 50 year old orthopedic surgeon and body builder. Set some world records on the diet. He's a good source of info, imo, because he's a physician, knows the science well, doesn't seem to be trying to monetize this, just trying to get the word out.



Shawn looks very filthy lol
 
Shawn Baker, MD - I just watched about 30 seconds of him on the Joe Rogen podcast. Instantly got a bad feeling about the guy. Just gave me a douchey vibe.

Started googling opposing viewpoints on the carnivore diet. Which led me to this. Sounds like Shawn Baker is most likely a fraud.




I've been interested in all sorts of diet fads over the last 10 years. None of them have convinced me that vegetables aren't fantastic for your health. My favorite quote regarding dieting...

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Not too complicated.
 
lol @ the Vegan. Talk about douchey-looking. There's a lot of vegan push-back to this diet. No surprise there.

Anyhow, this isn't about Shawn Baker, although he's a good source of info. I could link you to nearly a hundred physician/researcher-led presentations on this issue. But I'll spare the thread that derail, because that's not really what it's about.
 
I wondered if anything like Recipes even applies to this or is it just a seasoned beef patty or grilled chicken(assume no breading) for unbreaded fish fillets. How about Hot Wings if using Buffalo Sauce with very basic ingredients? Again no breading just chicken on the bone with skin. Maybe just a little Bleu Cheese :p ?

Yeah, there's nothing complicated. It's just cook the meat on a skillet, grill, or in the oven. Season how you like it. The advice if you're on a carnivore diet is usually avoid sauces, but some cheese is ok.

What is for lunch at work? Do you just bring a burger patty cooked at home and microwave it? Or do you use Deli Lunch Meat? Do you ever eat out?

I work 3 days a week, and I come home for long lunches, so I'm able to cook at home. I haven't eaten out since I started, so I'm not sure how that will go. I imagine you just order whatever meat is on the menu, minus any sauces.

Is Beef Jerky allowed or a particular brand?

Beef jerky is ok on carnivore, but like I said, some are loaded with sugar and nitrates. I shopped around a little and found some grass-fed beef sticks, although I don't eat them much, because they're kind of bland.

I'm not sure what kind of jobs everyone else has, but I imagine most people can eat at a table or desk and have a break room fridge n' microwave. I wondered how you would do lunch if you had to eat while driving a truck every day.

I have a desk job. If I couldn't go home for lunch, I'd have a big breakfast, then some snacks in the afternoon, then a big dinner. One of the things about eating meat, especially with plenty of fat, is that if you fill up, you aren't hungry for a long time after. I'd probably store beef jerky in my desk.