Anyone doing the low/no carb diet?

I am wondering what would be a good Cavivore breakfast that is easy to prepare. I don't want to cook meat in early morning, & I don't like overnight meat.
 
I am wondering what would be a good Cavivore breakfast that is easy to prepare. I don't want to cook meat in early morning, & I don't like overnight meat.


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I'm wondering if there is more to this than Insulin response.

I read about this other plan after doing more Bro-Science Internet research called a Low FODMAP (Fermentable Oligosaccharides, Disaccharides, Monosaccharides and Polyols) plan. What all that basically says is Carbs or Fiber that are fermentable in the gut or consumed by either good or bad bacteria.

I'm wondering if the Carnivore Zero Carb Diet is also a Zero Fiber diet that can correct a gut biome imbalance by starving out or reducing bad bacteria as wells as reversing Good Bacteria over growth. If even Good Bacteria over growth gets into the small intestine it causes problems like slower digestion. Food moves more slowly and more calories are absorbed than normal so attempts to count normal calories will not be accurate.

I cut out starches like Bananas or Potatoes, but I've learned some foods like Asparagus, Onion, most Mushrooms, or Garlic are high fermentable foods. I've decided to try adjusting my diet to include Low FODMAP plant based foods. I just had an egg scramble with Feta Cheese and 1 diced tomato which is a low fermentable food. I'm also having dry red wine which is supposed to be Low Fermentable in the gut. With the eggs, I'm having Louisiana brand Cayenne hot sauce which doesn't have onion or garlic.

I have seen a little further weight loss, so it'll be interesting to see how this goes while keeping particular plant based foods.

Long term, I think shifting toward Carnivore could be a gut biome reset and later more plant based foods could be tried again. I think High FODMAP foods should be tried one at a time. If you find you can eat some High FODMAP foods without a resurgence of bad bacteria, it might be good for the good bacteria and having more nutrition.

The Sunset Limited probably thinks this all sounds batshi't, but maybe it explains people succeeding on Carnivore Dieting as well as how to approach reintroducing some plant based foods.


One other thing this leaves me wondering is if Fiber is healthy, but the recommended daily amounts are greatly exaggerated to counter-act the constipating effects of Fiber Fortified breads and cereals. I think to reach the recommended daily intake from natural foods would be something like 10 Apples a day. We create a situation where people start eating Fiber Fortified grain based foods or Fiber Bars. I'm wondering if these foods move poorly through the gut and if some people start thinking they just need more Fiber.

That's interesting. I haven't looked at the fermentation issue. I do think that one of the benefits of carnivore is that your gut biome resets to a more healthy state. You can see that, for example, in many people's report of digestive problems going away.

One of the other interesting aspects of this is how different our digestive systems are from our primate relatives. Our stomach and small intestine is about the same size as theirs, but we have no cecum and a much smaller large intestine. The cecum is a third area that further breaks down vegetable matter and is involved in fermentation. All that is left of our cecum now is our appendix.

What that means is that we are considerably less efficient than other primates in digesting and detoxifying plant matter. The reason for this (according to the "expensive tissue hypothesis") is that we traded bigger brains for smaller guts. Meaning we became much more reliant on animal food sources than our primate relatives. That process also left us more vulnerable to the negative effects of plant material. We don't have nearly the equipment our primate cousins do, to digest and detoxify them.

I took out your call to Sunset. I thread banned him for continued trolling (I've deleted some of that content), so we don't need to invite him back into the thread. The conversation improved once he was gone.

I haven't looked into the fiber issue carefully, but from what I've heard, a lot of the official recommendations (eat more fiber) are erroneous, which at this point has stopped surprising me. I don't know if there is any solid evidence that consuming more fiber is good for you. Fiber irritates the gut lining. The only benefit I'm aware of is that it slows down the absorption of glucose in a carb-rich diet -- i.e., reduces insulin response.


Here's one bit I saw. I cued it up to where he shows the results of some research. It's another example of common nutritional advice vs. actual results. Check out the results of the zero-fiber diet.

 
I had coffee (no sugar), plus 2 hard boil eggs (bought direct at supermarket already hardboiled) & sardine (no bread of course) for breakfast.
Spent 3 mins prepared at the office coffeecorner/kitchen.

Weird to eat Sardine without bread, but I can get use to it, for health & fitness. Piority of food is health>taste. >For dinner last night, I had pork knuckle (bught from supermarket) with Indonesia Rendang (curry like sauce) cooked with spinach & cherry tomatos. I top it iff with maybe 4-5 strawberres & a cup of coffee (no sugar).
 
I put my dog on the carnivore diet, and she's doing better, too. She lost some weight, her mood is better, and she's a lot more interested in going for walks than she was before. Before, she'd sleep most of the day away, and she wasn't all that interested in walks or outdoor adventures. She's much more frisky and lively now, and she "smiles" and plays more. She went through an adjustment period just like I did, but after that, the changes have been very noticeable.

The biggest change is that, for the past year and a half, she's struggled with a skin condition that has affected all of her paws as well as other parts of her body. She'd lick and lick, to the point where she'd make her legs raw, and they'd bleed or get infected. It was bad. We took probably 8 trips to the vet and saw 2 different vets, looking for a solution. I had her in a "cone" for a couple months, and she was miserable. The best the vets could do was to implement a regimen that involved a special restricted diet, a special shampoo several times a week, an oral anti-allergy medicine, another pill to combat infections PRN, and regular allergy injections (which I have been giving). It's been a lot of work, and although her condition improved enough to get her out of the cone, it never remitted, and despite everything, she continued to have problems.

Things are much, much better now that she's just eating meat. Her skin is healed up. She doesn't lick half as much as she did before (still some, but not as relentless and damaging ... maybe 10% of what it was). She isn't itching and scratching all the time. Even the "boot-scoot" she did a lot (usually associated with anal glands being filled, but not always) has stopped. She's a lot more comfortable and happy.

She also seems to like the food better. :)

I'm happy. She's 13 -- that's about 70 years old, in our years -- and I'm glad I could find a way to make her final years a little better. She actually seems younger.
 
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I went low carb for like 3 months about 2 years ago. Late post btw haha.

I lost like 30 lbs but just know that there is a possibility that you will gain some of that back when you go off a low carb diet.

These days I try to have a more balance diet between protein, fats, carbs. Especially because I started lifting 5-6 days a week.

I think the key is not to call it dieting. It is a life style change. All diets will fail eventually. I still enjoy my craft beer on the weekend a long with a s***ty meal or two of just junk food.

Usually my weekday meals consist of 6-10 oz of protein , unlimited green veggies, and 1 cup of brown rice or 2 cups of roasted sweet potato.

I’m down another 45lbs over the last year.

My heaviest was 340ish and I hit 275 this past week.

75lbs to go.

Ohhh, and refined sugars!!! I have a mean sweet tooth. Sugar is the devil! Remember that!
 
I've mentioned it in one of these diet threads, but for me I think it will be a lifestyle change as well. I used to eat a lot of sandwiches and subs so that is easily a ton of carbs and wasted calories. Even burgers I'll just eat the burger by itself or lettuce wrap. Sure there are times when I'm at a family gathering I'll eat it with a bun, or still enjoy breadsticks with pizza etc, but just cutting back say 6 out of 7 days is a big difference. It's an easy 600+ calories a week either lost or spent towards something healthier and more nutritious.
 
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I think the key is not to call it dieting.

Yeah, I like the term "way of eating" (woe) better. "Diet" is shorthand, but it's not accurate. This is about a different sort of eating, based on a different understanding of food, which is contrary to the old nutritional dogmas. A lot of learning and un-learning is involved.
 
I've mentioned it in one of these diet threads, but for me I think it will be a lifestyle change as well. I used to eat a lot of sandwiches and subs so that is easily a ton of carbs and wasted calories. Even burgers I'll just eat the burger by itself or lettuce wrap. Sure there are times when I'm at a family gathering I'll eat it with a bun, or still enjoy breadsticks with pizza etc, but just cutting back say 6 out of 7 days is a big difference. It's an easy 600+ calories a week either lost or spent towards something healthier and more nutritious.


This is a main change I'm going for and helped me easily drop a few pounds. It's not a big deal to cutout bread or even cereals.

Hoping to change jobs soon and maybe after that I'll figure out an exercise routine that works for me.

I'm also interesting in keeping in Low FODMAP greens and veggies.
 
90 days carnivore. Doing well. Same benefits as before -- increased energy, mental acuity, lowered allergies, reduced weight, better mood, just feel better overall. Don't have any desire to stop at this point.
 
90 days carnivore. Doing well. Same benefits as before -- increased energy, mental acuity, lowered allergies, reduced weight, better mood, just feel better overall. Don't have any desire to stop at this point.
Any change in erections, positive or negative? Serious question. Interested in how it affects that.
 
Any change in erections, positive or negative? Serious question. Interested in how it affects that.

lol, well, I did notice increased morning wood, when I first went on it. I also noticed a bit uptick in my sexual interest level -- presumably because of increased testosterone. Plenty of others have reported similar things. It's kind of amusing to read the reports about people getting more erections. Although I did read this morning a report from someone who said his morning wood has disappeared, which is kind of unusual.
 
I put my dog on the carnivore diet, and she's doing better, too. She lost some weight, her mood is better, and she's a lot more interested in going for walks than she was before. Before, she'd sleep most of the day away, and she wasn't all that interested in walks or outdoor adventures. She's much more frisky and lively now, and she "smiles" and plays more. She went through an adjustment period just like I did, but after that, the changes have been very noticeable.

The biggest change is that, for the past year and a half, she's struggled with a skin condition that has affected all of her paws as well as other parts of her body. She'd lick and lick, to the point where she'd make her legs raw, and they'd bleed or get infected. It was bad. We took probably 8 trips to the vet and saw 2 different vets, looking for a solution. I had her in a "cone" for a couple months, and she was miserable. The best the vets could do was to implement a regimen that involved a special restricted diet, a special shampoo several times a week, an oral anti-allergy medicine, another pill to combat infections PRN, and regular allergy injections (which I have been giving). It's been a lot of work, and although her condition improved enough to get her out of the cone, it never remitted, and despite everything, she continued to have problems.

Things are much, much better now that she's just eating meat. Her skin is healed up. She doesn't lick half as much as she did before (still some, but not as relentless and damaging ... maybe 10% of what it was). She isn't itching and scratching all the time. Even the "boot-scoot" she did a lot (usually associated with anal glands being filled, but not always) has stopped. She's a lot more comfortable and happy.

She also seems to like the food better. :)

I'm happy. She's 13 -- that's about 70 years old, in our years -- and I'm glad I could find a way to make her final years a little better. She actually seems younger.

What do you feed her? I imagine that could get expensive. My dogs are itching/licking but I have guessed it's due to a new type of mosquito that invaded our area (I had 13 bites at one time).
 
What do you feed her? I imagine that could get expensive. My dogs are itching/licking but I have guessed it's due to a new type of mosquito that invaded our area (I had 13 bites at one time).

I usually just give her some of what I'm having -- beef, chicken, pork, or fish. She's a dachshund, so she doesn't eat much. Sometimes I'll give her canned chicken, when I don't feel like sharing my T-Bone.

It's really nice to see her doing well. I'm as happy about that as anything. She's only got a couple years left to live, so it's wonderful to know she'll be happy and full of life for those years, not itchy, raw, and lethargic.

It's been a big surprise, too. The two vets I consulted were stumped. I'd spent thousands on visits to the vet and multiple meds/treatments (to say nothing of the time, energy, and stress of it all) -- which yielded only limited results and nothing but a need for more pills and more treatments. One month on a meat diet, and the problem is gone.
 
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Since Carnivores give up Plant Based foods, I wondered if you guys have given up Coffee?

I have been a total coffee addict as a truck driver and wondering if it has some bad effects on weight loss or at least over using it as a stimulant.

I'm thinking in the short term of switching to Tea and seeing how that goes. I've been reading there could be other issues with coffee relating to the roasting process or how much coffee plants are sprayed.
 
This may be old news to most people reading this thread, because they've "awakened," so to speak, but it's still a good read. It's a nice review of the way we've all been misled for 30-40 years by "expert opinion" based on poor science, conformity to dogma, and vested interests.

We’re All Guinea Pigs in a Failed Decades-Long Diet Experiment
"The change in dietary advice to promote low-fat foods is perhaps the biggest mistake in modern medical history."

https://www.vice.com/en_au/article/...long-diet-experiment-58477ffc1aed26026098b7d7

Here's an excerpt from the article:

"Teicholz said it's hard to overstate the effect of national health authorities' pro-carb, anti-fat stance. A whole generation of health professionals accepted—and passed on to their patients—the government's guidance to avoid fat and cholesterol. Many still do.

"Both professional and institutional credibility are at stake," she said when asked why more doctors and policymakers aren't making noise about the harms caused by the government's dietary guidance. She also mentioned food industry interests, the potential for "massive class-action lawsuits," and the shame of copping to nearly a half-century of bad diet advice as deterrents for USDA and other health authorities when it comes to admitting they were wrong."
 
Since Carnivores give up Plant Based foods, I wondered if you guys have given up Coffee?

I have been a total coffee addict as a truck driver and wondering if it has some bad effects on weight loss or at least over using it as a stimulant.

I'm thinking in the short term of switching to Tea and seeing how that goes. I've been reading there could be other issues with coffee relating to the roasting process or how much coffee plants are sprayed.

I drink 3 cups of coffee a day. The general advice for carnivores is that coffee is fine. Zero carb. Coffee is not really a food -- it's a drug. I am addicted and don't feel like dealing with the withdrawals. Maybe I'll kick it later, maybe not.

Like a lot of things, you can find studies pro and con. My opinion, from what I've read (and I pay attention, because I am a coffee drinker), coffee is generally not a problem overall.
 



That's a spoof of another Youtube vegan, sv3ridge, who makes videos about how vegans are skinny and sick.


Here is his video about going carnivore:


 
Any thoughts on eating out? Maybe get a burger to go and toss the bun? Or get a Jimmy John's Unwich lettuce wrap sub?

For now, I feel stuck in truck driving and about to go back to long haul driving. I may have to do the best I can picking over what food there is at truck stops.

Also wondered if anyone does a version of Bulletproof Coffee. Some truck drivers are saying that's a good way to start a driving day.

All this right after the Thanksgiving Carb Gauntlet.

For now, I have some time off and will do some treadmill and maybe weight machines.
 
Any thoughts on eating out? Maybe get a burger to go and toss the bun? Or get a Jimmy John's Unwich lettuce wrap sub?

For now, I feel stuck in truck driving and about to go back to long haul driving. I may have to do the best I can picking over what food there is at truck stops.

Also wondered if anyone does a version of Bulletproof Coffee. Some truck drivers are saying that's a good way to start a driving day.

All this right after the Thanksgiving Carb Gauntlet.

For now, I have some time off and will do some treadmill and maybe weight machines.

Yeah, I think that would be easiest -- order a couple of quarter pounders, then toss the bun. Order them plain. Eggs are good food, so a McMuffin, toss the bun, would work, too.

Some people order burger patties by themselves, at McD's or BK or Wendy's.

Other options for travel: beef jerky, sardines or anchovies in a tin, boiled shrimp, grilled chicken. Eggs are always good, so a McMuffin and just toss the bun.

Or chicken wings, but w/o sauce or coating. Or cold beef from a deli.
 
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I usually just give her some of what I'm having -- beef, chicken, pork, or fish. She's a dachshund, so she doesn't eat much. Sometimes I'll give her canned chicken, when I don't feel like sharing my T-Bone.

It's really nice to see her doing well. I'm as happy about that as anything. She's only got a couple years left to live, so it's wonderful to know she'll be happy and full of life for those years, not itchy, raw, and lethargic.

It's been a big surprise, too. The two vets I consulted were stumped. I'd spent thousands on visits to the vet and multiple meds/treatments (to say nothing of the time, energy, and stress of it all) -- which yielded only limited results and nothing but a need for more pills and more treatments. One month on a meat diet, and the problem is gone.


That's awesome. I do the same for my dog, saw some TEDtalks about cancer rates in dogs. I don't know how accurate that is, but it stuck with me. I started cooking a lot more for myself and got in a health kick, so cooking for both us at the same time is simple.

You might want to look into feeding her fresh veggies as well! I usually include some broccoli, caulliflower, and carrots in her meal.

Also be careful with canned meat, they're usually high in salt. You can rinse them off three minutes+ and reduce that salt content by 80% (for tuna at least, I imagine chicken wouldn't be too different).
 
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