Batman Arkham Shadow (Meta exclusive)

Meta Quest 3 only. Lol.

It's a feature, not a bug. The Quest 3 is a SOLID platform!

There have actually been no exclusive Quest 3 games, so far. Looks like they are finally dropping Quest 2 developer mandate by the end of the year, so some day soon, we will get to see what the Quest 3 can actually do...This past week, though, this game and Alien: Rogue Incursion were both announced as Quest 3 exclusives!

 
It's a feature, not a bug. The Quest 3 is a SOLID platform!

There have actually been no exclusive Quest 3 games, so far. Looks like they are finally dropping Quest 2 developer mandate by the end of the year, so some day soon, we will get to see what the Quest 3 can actually do...This past week, though, this game and Alien: Rogue Incursion were both announced as Quest 3 exclusives!


They are leaving behind a massive market. Hence my exclusive comment.
 
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That guys quoting an old article that has this in it..

Regardless of whether or not the Quest 2 is actually outpacing the Xbox Series X|S

Cause it's not based on actual facts but guess work and was written when both X and PS5 consoles were like gold dust.
 
They are leaving behind a massive market. Hence my exclusive comment.
That's literally NOT how this works! This game is being developed by Camouflage, whom Meta OWNS! It was conceived and funded ALL BY META! There would be NO GAME AT ALL, if it wasn't for development of this game! If you want to complain about no other Arkham game, then that's a seperate complaint!
 
That's literally NOT how this works! This game is being developed by Camouflage, whom Meta OWNS! It was conceived and funded ALL BY META! There would be NO GAME AT ALL, if it wasn't for development of this game! If you want to complain about no other Arkham game, then that's a seperate complaint!
I'm literally talking about Meta platforms.

I'm not talking about it not coming to Xbox or PC. I'm talking about the massive Quest 2 userbase. A platform that not even 6 months ago was massively outselling Quest 3.
 
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What a dumb comment.

Forgetting the Xbox numbers, it is Quest 3 exclusive. Making the whole comparison useless. lol.

You really should stop reading Twitter.

That guys quoting an old article that has this in it..

Regardless of whether or not the Quest 2 is actually outpacing the Xbox Series X|S

Cause it's not based on actual facts but guess work and was written when both X and PS5 consoles were like gold dust.
Console gaming is a slumping market right now, lno matter how anyone feels about it! Both Sony & MSFT have laid off another round of employees again.

Meanwhile, Apple has just released their 1st gen headset, Meta has just announced that their Quest OS (Now called Horizon OS) will be open to other HW manufacturers to make their own standalone devices, including LG, Lenovo, & HTC. They also announced an Xbox-branded headset that they will produce, and now 2 AAA exclusive games that they are funding. The industry is obviously growing pretty rapidly, in spite of Sony, who are not funding their closed VR ecosystem, based on their overall games business slowing down.

I see that there's a lot of hurt feels about this, but I think it honestly reminds me of how people hated on video games in the 1980s - early 90s. VR is 100% still just taking off!
 
Console gaming is a slumping market right now, lno matter how anyone feels about it! Both Sony & MSFT have laid off another round of employees again.

Meanwhile, Apple has just released their 1st gen headset, Meta has just announced that their Quest OS (Now called Horizon OS) will be open to other HW manufacturers to make their own standalone devices, including LG, Lenovo, & HTC. They also announced an Xbox-branded headset that they will produce, and now 2 AAA exclusive games that they are funding. The industry is obviously growing pretty rapidly, in spite of Sony, who are not funding their closed VR ecosystem, based on their overall games business slowing down.

I see that there's a lot of hurt feels about this, but I think it honestly reminds me of how people hated on video games in the 1980s - early 90s. VR is 100% still just taking off!
No idea why you are obsessed with console. Literally nobody is talking about this coming to console. Lol.
 
I'm literally talking about Meta platforms.

I'm not talking about it not coming to Xbox or PC. I'm talking about the massive Quest 2 userbase. A platform that not even 6 months ago was massively outselling Quest 3.
Thanks for the clarification. My bad. I genuinely thought most here just don't like VR, in general.

Yeah, well I mean, here's the issue that they are facing right now. Meta released new hardware in October, and we still have NO IDEA what the device can do graphically, as there are 0 games made exclusively for the new processor! They have actually been roasted for this type of launch, and meanwhile the Quest 2 era games are being compared unfairly against PSVR2 and PC. I don't expect these two games to be released until AR LEAST the end of the year. At that point, there will have been an entire year of no generation exclusives.

They are currently fire-sale-ing the Quest 2s, and will have a 3S this holiday, sick has the new processor, but old-style lenses and cheaper cameras. Pretty much all of the YouTube content creators said LOUDLY: "DO NOT BUY" on the Quest 2 last year, as this was pretty much seem coming a mile away, by those of us in the know. Instead, they all recommend to wait for the heavily-leaked Quest 3S, if you're on a budget.
 
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No idea why you are obsessed with console. Literally nobody is talking about this coming to console. Lol.

This you?
What a dumb comment.

Forgetting the Xbox numbers, it is Quest 3 exclusive. Making the whole comparison useless. lol.

You really should stop reading Twitter.

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're saying here, as this was where I got lost on thinking you're talking Xbox.
 
Thanks for the clarification. My bad. I genuinely thought most here just don't like VR, in general.

Yeah, well I mean, here's the issue that they are facing right now. Meta released new hardware in October, and we still have NO IDEA what the device can do graphically, as there are 0 games made exclusively for the new processor! They have actually been roasted for this type of launch, and meanwhile the Quest 2 era games are being compared unfairly against PSVR2 and PC. I don't expect these two games to be released until AR LEAST the end of the year. At that point, there will have been an entire year of no generation exclusives.

They are currently fire-sale-ing the Quest 2s, and will have a 3S this holiday, sick has the new processor, but old-style lenses and cheaper cameras. Pretty much all of the YouTube content creators said LOUDLY: "DO NOT BUY" on the Quest 2 last year, as this was pretty much seem coming a mile away, by those of us in the know.


What is the install base on Quest 3?
 
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Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're saying here, as this was where I got lost on thinking you're talking Xbox.
The whole meta quest 2 outsold Xbox headline is irrelevant as this isn't on the platform was my point.

It was a dumb comment based on an irrelevant platform(Quest 2).
 
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What is the install base on Quest 3?
Meta, like Xbox, do not release their numbers, publicly. I have no idea whether or not the Quest 3 is outpacing the Quest 2, after the same amount of time on the shelves.

However, other than the much better optics, smaller controllers, and MR, there is nothing really at all on the games side to push someone to buy a Quest 3 over a Quest 2, at least until these 2 games release. This is basically no different than how every console releases, though... other than an obviously shorter life cycle. I bought both headsets at release (actually, all 3 Quests), and I know I got my money's worth out of the Quest 2, but Quest 3 is just better in every way, except for the fact that I've never been able to play a native game on it!
 
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Meta, like Xbox, do not release their numbers, publicly. I have no idea whether or not the Quest 3 is outpacing the Quest 2, after the same amount of time on the shelves.

However, other than the much better optics, smaller controllers, and MR, there is nothing really at all on the games side to push someone to buy a Quest 3 over a Quest 2, at least until these 2 games release. This is basically no different than how every console releases, though... other than an obviously shorter life cycle. I bought both headsets at release (actually, all 3 Quests), and I know I got my money's worth out of the Quest 2, but Quest 3 is just better in every way, except for the fact that I've never been able to play a native game on it!
But MR is the big thing. That is the exclusive software to push quest 3.

I have no issue with VR as a platform, it does offer some cool things, like Big Screen.However, as a gamer, it just doesn't offer anything. I have yet to see a single VR game where I was like WOW!!Gotta play that. Maybe that is unfair, maybe not, but I'm never paying £400+ to find out...and now they are making the much cheaper quest 2 irrelevant with exclusivity. So not touching that either.

If the Quest 3S launches for like £$300 odds are MR will be gone as will pretty much all other improvements making it kinda pointless.

For VR, growth must be the priority, not selling the latest, most expensive product.
 
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But MR is the big thing. That is the exclusive software to push quest 3.

I have no issue with VR as a platform, it does offer some cool things, like Big Screen.However, as a gamer, it just doesn't offer anything. I have yet to see a single VR game where I was like WOW!!Gotta play that. Maybe that is unfair, maybe not, but I'm never paying £400+ to find out...and now they are making the much cheaper quest 2 irrelevant with exclusivity. So not touching that either.

If the Quest 3S launches for like £$300 odds are MR will be gone as will pretty much all other improvements making it kinda pointless.

For VR, growth must be the priority, not selling the latest, most expensive product.

MR is a great starting point for the headset, and really unexpectedly reduces the friction of getting to your game, but it's no system-seller, IMO. At least, not for the device as a gaming headset. For enterprise and productivity, SURE! I really don't need it for 2D apps, as I have a projector for my big screen viewing, but I can see the appeal. I just think that's kinda niche, though. Maybe I'm wrong.

One thing that I quickly noticed about going from the Q2 to the Q3, is that the eye comfort of the lenses allows me to be in the headset longer, and combined with the ease of use, with the MR interface, my usage went up considerably. I predicted that this would solve the HUGE problem had, regarding Quest 2 user retention, in which they were being dragged in the media about... It turns out that I was right, and that retention is way up from Quest 2!


The Quest 3S is rumored to be $200-$300, and will replace the Quest 2, for that price point. It's also rumored to have color passthrough, but maybe a lower resolution. It will likely NOT have the depth sensor, though. (Or the sweet, sweet lenses)

The entire point of 3S, though, is that unlike how Xbox does their current S model, Quest 3S will have the exact same processor that's in Quest 3, which is more than twice as powerful as the Quest 2/Pro, and has more RAM, for better textures, as well. As impressive as Asgard's Wrath is on Quest 2, it's set in a desert environment, with detailed closed-in dungeons Having a semi-open-world experience like that in an urban environment like Gotham City, simply isn't possible, on the Quest 2's XR2 processor, IMO.

There are no other headsets on the market that offer what Meta is doing, for anywhere CLOSE to the price point that they are going with! They are selling them right at or below cost, in order to get a foothold in the market.
 
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I’m excited for this game, looks good, and even better Kazuma from the first few metal gear solid games and 343s halo games will coproduce music for it.



I’ll probably never play it cos my stomach/feable-weak-brain won’t handle it.