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Curse my OCD. I feel like all of my movies/TV series, etc. must be in Blu-Ray format. If not, then my brain just tells me to pass.
 
I used to watch it all the time when I was younger. I'm not gonna buy it but if it was on Netlfix or Hulu I'd definitely watch it.
 
I do like a bit bloody animations:

Death Note



Full Metal Alchemist

Berserk

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Basilisk



Ninja Scroll (trailer beneath for Ninja Scroll BURST, does not seem like it will be released)



Cowboy bebop

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Ghost in the Shell

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Vampire Hunter D

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Blood Plus

 
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After the first trailer I lost all hope for this movie, but the last couple have restored it some. Plus, it has Lena Headey & Eva Green. Hard to pass on those two.
 
I never got around to watching this, might give it a go, but I'm not sure. Any ideas for next month? Personally, I think it'd be neat if we could choose a certain genre or something. Horror, sci-fi, historical drama, animated film, etc.
 
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When you own both Pixar and Star Wars, the most logical move would be to let Pixar make a Star Wars movie, no? Well, that's exactly what Disney is planning according to The Latino Review.

A Pixar film would be one of many tie-ins that would happen with Episode VII—for example, there are rumors of comics and TV shows. At the moment, there don't seem to be any more specific details about a Pixar film—but should it happen, it's not exactly the most surprising move for Disney to take. The Latino Review has also been right about the stuff its heard about before.

http://kotaku.com/report-pixar-will-make-a-star-wars-movie-1506871647

It was only a matter of time before Disney’s golden child animation acquisition was brought into the company franchise game. John Lasseter doubling his time at Disney Animation is a good cog in the machine, but there comes an opportunity to mix two potentially profitable brands together and see if the success can exponentially multiply. Or that must be the thinking at Disney, because we’ve heard that Pixar has been given their own Star Wars movie.

Once the canon-purge is over and Episode VII is in production, there will be a whole universe of Star Wars related content to play in. We’ve heard about TV shows,new comics tie-ins (Marvel, of course), spin-off movies for particular characters and now, a Pixar film.

At this point, no idea what the size or shape of this film will be and given the long-view storytelling production model that is part of the Pixar brand, this could be a long way off. We can expect it to take place in the middle of a Venn Diagram between Star Wars and A Pixar Movie, and what that means to you depends on your definition of both.

Star Wars and animation has some great possibilities. Or they could go and Animatrix it up (like The Dark Knight did). At least this looks to be a mix that could be potentially fruitful, especially since this will come out long after we’ve read several think pieces on the dilution of the brand.

Maybe WALL-E gave them a new take on Droids (and someone should scrub the taste of Fox’s Robots from our mouths), maybe the Jawas have an interesting culture (but not like a Smurf), maybe you don’t want a live-action movie of how Young Han Solo met Chewbacca, but if Pixar did it, maybe it’d be tolerable.

http://latino-review.com/2014/01/pixar-joining-star-wars-universe/
 
Well, Disney owns Star Wars. They can do whatever the hell they want to. My opinion? I'm open to anything Disney is putting on the table. And I, Smurfboy the Great, approve this.
 
I'm kind of meh on this. No because I'm against Stars Wars becoming a 3D animated film/series, I actually enjoyed the Clone Wars show personally, wasn't perfect but it had some pretty good moments and episodes, but I'm more worried about a conflict of interests. With Star Wars, I was kind of expecting something more akin to the Pirates of the Caribbean/Tron Legacy treatment. With Pixar, it just doesn't seem to sync up for me. I can easily be proven wrong though, and I'd welcome it.
 
Now I remember where it came from, but what seems significant to me is that yellow orchid is the only one that is not real in this film. The other colors are seen in real life by orchid collectors and thieves, while yellow one is (presumably) in Kris's hallucinations only. We know that the parasite leaves some trauma to those who are previously infected, and the yellow orchid must be one of them. Her traumatic connection to the parasite lets her see orchids, but in a somewhat distorted form, turning the color yellow which is not in 'real life'. Might be too convenient, but I think it would be hard to find anything else, unless like Bollocks said there might be some more significance in the yellow color itself.

I think yellow is a symbol of clarity/wisdom/happiness and purity. The trigger was Walden, which slowly cleared the "fog" of the worm/Samplers machinations, until she had he moment of clarity in the bottom of the pool. The Orchids were normally a tainted blue color, the yellow orchid was a "pure/clear" color, just like her psyche for the most part now. Seeing this she now knows what she has to do, free herself.

I think the significance of colors yellow/blue etc plays into the title of the movie, Upstream Color. When the Sampler is in control, the orchids are tainted blue (a depressing/sad state) from his experimentations with the worms in the pigs, killing the baby pigs in the river, contaminating the water that feeds the orchids.
When Kris kills the Sampler and helps the effected people and in turn paints the farm yellow, it's purifying the cycle, the "upstream color" is now yellow. The pigs happy (not subjected to the Samplers whims), the farm is a better place, the stream is no longer polluted, and the narco-thief is no longer able to prey on his victims. It's life's trickle down effects, what's upstream makes its way down.

Yeah so I finally got a chance to watch it.
 
I think yellow is a symbol of clarity/wisdom/happiness and purity. The trigger was Walden, which slowly cleared the "fog" of the worm/Samplers machinations, until she had he moment of clarity in the bottom of the pool. The Orchids were normally a tainted blue color, the yellow orchid was a "pure/clear" color, just like her psyche for the most part now. Seeing this she now knows what she has to do, free herself.

I think the significance of colors yellow/blue etc plays into the title of the movie, Upstream Color. When the Sampler is in control, the orchids are tainted blue (a depressing/sad state) from his experimentations with the worms in the pigs, killing the baby pigs in the river, contaminating the water that feeds the orchids.
When Kris kills the Sampler and helps the effected people and in turn paints the farm yellow, it's purifying the cycle, the "upstream color" is now yellow. The pigs happy (not subjected to the Samplers whims), the farm is a better place, the stream is no longer polluted, and the narco-thief is no longer able to prey on his victims. It's life's trickle down effects, what's upstream makes its way down.

Yeah so I finally got a chance to watch it.

Interesting thoughts.

One thing that came to my mind as I was reading this, is how did it all start ? We see at the end that the florist no longer finds blue orchids. So the Thief no longer does his thing, so now there are no more worms for the sampler to extract. The movie does nothing to imply that the Sampler created this compound ( or what ever) and was just like the Florist and the thief, who seem to have stumbled across this stuff. I guess you could take the Samplers death and the end to the cycle as Implication of his hand in creating the compound, but if Thief was killed the cycle also would have stopped. Same goes for the Florist.

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Interesting thoughts.

One thing that came to my mind as I was reading this, is how did it all start ? We see at the end that the florist no longer finds blue orchids. So the Thief no longer does his thing, so now there are no more worms for the sampler to extract. The movie does nothing to imply that the Sampler created this compound ( or what ever) and was just like the Florist and the thief, who seem to have stumbled across this stuff. I guess you could take the Samplers death and the end to the cycle as Implication of his hand in creating the compound, but if Thief was killed the cycle also would have stopped. Same goes for the Florist.

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I don't think the Sampler created the compound himself. I think it was a by-product of the whole worm cycle. I think he originally found the worms when he was doing his sound recording, such as the part when he's out in the field at night with all his speakers facing the ground. The worms were rhythmically entranced(?) and started popping outta the ground. Kinda the same way he got Kris back to his field laboratory to remove the worm.

I think the thief kinda stumbled onto the compound and worm combo too. At the beginning he's trying to just sell the compound as a drug, but is rebuked by most everyone. Then he sees the kids get synced up after drinking the worm washed soda, then hatches the idea of mind control via worm impregnation.

The florists, I think, were just out there doing their thing, oblivious to the malicious ends their plants are used for.
 
I don't think that there was any collusion between the florists and Sampler or thief, I do think there was between the thief and Sampler though.
 
I don't think the Sampler created the compound himself. I think it was a by-product of the whole worm cycle. I think he originally found the worms when he was doing his sound recording, such as the part when he's out in the field at night with all his speakers facing the ground. The worms were rhythmically entranced(?) and started popping outta the ground. Kinda the same way he got Kris back to his field laboratory to remove the worm.

I think the thief kinda stumbled onto the compound and worm combo too. At the beginning he's trying to just sell the compound as a drug, but is rebuked by most everyone. Then he sees the kids get synced up after drinking the worm washed soda, then hatches the idea of mind control via worm impregnation.

The florists, I think, were just out there doing their thing, oblivious to the malicious ends their plants are used for.

So you think it is a natural compound ?

I do not know about the Thief comment though - Mainly the timeline aspect - cause he had done this many many times before Kris and his timeline ( from what I recall) was pretty much linear and all focused around the abduction of Kris.


To be honest, I really need to watch it again. It isn't really a movie you can watch only once.
 
I think yellow is a symbol of clarity/wisdom/happiness and purity. The trigger was Walden, which slowly cleared the "fog" of the worm/Samplers machinations, until she had he moment of clarity in the bottom of the pool. The Orchids were normally a tainted blue color, the yellow orchid was a "pure/clear" color, just like her psyche for the most part now. Seeing this she now knows what she has to do, free herself.

I think the significance of colors yellow/blue etc plays into the title of the movie, Upstream Color. When the Sampler is in control, the orchids are tainted blue (a depressing/sad state) from his experimentations with the worms in the pigs, killing the baby pigs in the river, contaminating the water that feeds the orchids.
When Kris kills the Sampler and helps the effected people and in turn paints the farm yellow, it's purifying the cycle, the "upstream color" is now yellow. The pigs happy (not subjected to the Samplers whims), the farm is a better place, the stream is no longer polluted, and the narco-thief is no longer able to prey on his victims. It's life's trickle down effects, what's upstream makes its way down.

Yeah so I finally got a chance to watch it.

Interesting thoughts all in all, and in general I agree. Though I believe Kris painted the farm yellow because yellow was a color of cure and recovery the way she sees it and she thought it is going to work to other victims as well, there is no denying that yellow is now the "upstream color" of the story. Your explanation on the title based on this story also sounds convincing, I just thought it's about the upstream of blue color from the parasites inside dead pigs to roots of orchid to flowers. Add your meaning to the title and it makes a lot of sense.

Interesting thoughts.

One thing that came to my mind as I was reading this, is how did it all start ? We see at the end that the florist no longer finds blue orchids. So the Thief no longer does his thing, so now there are no more worms for the sampler to extract. The movie does nothing to imply that the Sampler created this compound ( or what ever) and was just like the Florist and the thief, who seem to have stumbled across this stuff. I guess you could take the Samplers death and the end to the cycle as Implication of his hand in creating the compound, but if Thief was killed the cycle also would have stopped. Same goes for the Florist.

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I was also guessing it was a natural compound, which he found from orchids. Sampler would have been collecting and "sampling"(therefore the name Sampler) orchids when he found this parasite or compound or whatever, and started growing these things... my question is to what end. The way he deals with pigs imply that he has connections to thieves, so he may have been selling parasite/compound to them. Then why does he go through the complex process of throwing down the pig, turning natural orchids blue, until they collect it themselves? Why not do the whole process himself?
 
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So you think it is a natural compound ?

I do not know about the Thief comment though - Mainly the timeline aspect - cause he had done this many many times before Kris and his timeline ( from what I recall) was pretty much linear and all focused around the abduction of Kris.


To be honest, I really need to watch it again. It isn't really a movie you can watch only once.

No I don't think it's a naturally occurring compound, I think it's a result of the worms having their way inside the pigs, causing some sort of infection/secretion that gets released into the water and transferred via the water and the worms themselves. The water/worms end up being used/absorbed by the growing plants, which prolly modifies it even further, until the end product on the plant leaves.

The timeline in the movie seems all f*cked up to be honest. I think everything before Kris gets abducted isn't chronological/real time, just vignettes of points in time of the Sampler and the Thief.
 
I was also guessing it was a natural compound, which he found from orchids. Sampler would have been collecting and "sampling"(therefore the name Sampler) orchids when he found this parasite or compound or whatever, and started growing these things... my question is to what end. The way he deals with pigs imply that he has connections to thieves, so he may have been selling parasite/compound to them. Then why does he go through the complex process of throwing down the pig, turning natural orchids blue, until they collect it themselves? Why not do the whole process himself?

That has me thinking, maybe the Sampler isn't in direct collusion with the Thief. The Sampler, as his namesake implies, likes sampling. Maybe he got infected by one of the worm from his pigs, he's like patient zero, and got to "sample" some of what the worm has previously inhabited. Like how Kris experienced what the Sampler had previously done, the rocks, the sounds, etc...

So he throws the baby pigs in the river to set the worms free every so often so he can retrieve his "samples" from them. It just so happens that the orchids are a carrier for the worms, who are then used by the thief for his malicious deeds. The Sampler then "calls home" his samples and retrieves the worms.

I don't think the Sampler was inherently evil, maybe just strangely curious, and Thief, who most definitely is, just provided the perfect means of a steady supply of new samples.
 
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In other post I was also thinking that way, I still agree in general, but something feels a little off. On one hand the sampler seems clueless on what the thieves are doing with it like you said, but on the other hand he's doing things a bit too complex to just think that way. When you said the Sampler is not evil now that I wholeheartedly agree, but the sampler does something more than just sampling. I've been thinking that the Sampler is connected to florists and florists to thieves and the former two do not know what the thieves are doing with it. Sampler might have a vague idea, but not florists.
 
There is something inherently evil about being able to eavesdrop into other peoples lives as succinctly as the Sampler is able to do.
We see him viewing people at their worst and he is portrayed as enjoying it.
While I may buy that the Sampler himself is not inherently evil, his actions and motives in this movie most certainly are.