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True true.

Like I said, I think the sbmm recognizes that you are doing good and then decides to put you on a team of lower people that aren't doing as good, but use you as the lead person to match with players on the other side? I know I will go on a win streak and then all of the suddenly I am on the losing team consistently for a while.

When your level of play is higher than other players on your team, you feel it when the other team is really good also and your team is getting destroyed haha.

I think yesterday or Saturday I had a match where I went 29 or 30 kills with 4 or 5 deaths. Next person below me on my team didn't break 10 kills. I am sure the opposing team was frustrated.

The sbmm is odd at times.
I'm almost always at the bottom of my team. Although, score in TDM is tough, people go 20-40 and are "better" than me. I end up having to play super passive and holding angles just so I'm not dying a million times.

It isn't just me remembering the bad ones, I very rarely have good games. Every now and then I'll find a team with tons of bad campers on it (the kind who can't hit you even if they pre-aim the door). I wreck these people for 2 games and then I'm guaranteed to lose 10 in a row. The difference in skill is very obvious, and I pretty clearly fall in the middle, but I never play in the middle of the skill bracket.
 

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Got my first hackusation which made me feel a ton better. Some kid was out in the middle of nowhere in a fight with someone else and I have a scoped Kar98. I figure I'll steal the kill for some XP. Kid starts screaming that I have an aimbot. I body shot him and he was already low from someone else.
 

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I'm almost always at the bottom of my team. Although, score in TDM is tough, people go 20-40 and are "better" than me. I end up having to play super passive and holding angles just so I'm not dying a million times.

It isn't just me remembering the bad ones, I very rarely have good games. Every now and then I'll find a team with tons of bad campers on it (the kind who can't hit you even if they pre-aim the door). I wreck these people for 2 games and then I'm guaranteed to lose 10 in a row. The difference in skill is very obvious, and I pretty clearly fall in the middle, but I never play in the middle of the skill bracket.
Honestly dude, if the match is totally lopsided, I just quit and find a new match. Not going to waste my time in a match when we are down 30+ kills and I’m the only one that can get a kill on my team.

I don’t really care if it’s counts as a loss. The best matches are the ones that end within like 5-7 kills.
 

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I'm almost tempted to plug a mouse into my Xbox and be that guy. Even 6v6 I'm getting into PC lobbies. I get that the bigger modes can't match perfectly, but it can't find 11 other people between 2 consoles on double XP weekend?

It also cheeses me off that when I turn off crossplay, it takes an hour to find a match.

I'm also constantly getting killed by the new SMG. The stats didn't look anything special, basically the same as other SMGs but I get killed by it all the time. Maybe it is just the shiny, new gun everyone is using.

I'm loving the Fal still. A 2 tap kill at reasonable range. It is so quick if you hit it right.
 

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True true.

Like I said, I think the sbmm recognizes that you are doing good and then decides to put you on a team of lower people that aren't doing as good, but use you as the lead person to match with players on the other side? I know I will go on a win streak and then all of the suddenly I am on the losing team consistently for a while.

When your level of play is higher than other players on your team, you feel it when the other team is really good also and your team is getting destroyed haha.

I think yesterday or Saturday I had a match where I went 29 or 30 kills with 4 or 5 deaths. Next person below me on my team didn't break 10 kills. I am sure the opposing team was frustrated.

The sbmm is odd at times.
Is that SBMM or is it simply a difference of playstyle? SBMM won't factor in movement, reactions, positioning etc. Maybe you're a better player in general but most of that is lost on the SBMM algo.
 

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Patch is up. Fal and Bruen got nerfed. Holger might be worth a try.

GENERAL FIXES:

Fix for an issue where explosive rounds on the Rytec AMR could still be equipped in CDL modes
Fix for an error players could receive when opening the weapon armory
Fix for an exploit in the Shooting Range trial
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FAL:

Increased headshot damage (2 hit at range with 1 headshot)
Reduced near damage (limbs and lower torso always 3 shot)

Holger-26

Increased damage range
Increased ADS speed

Bruen MK9

Reduced damage range
M91

Increased near damage
Increased ADS Speed
 

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Apparently there was a mistake with the Xbox COD patch and it requires a 66 GB download. So if you are on Xbox and have any plans of playing this weekend, might want to check that download. Fortunately, my download started automatically and is probably going to be done sometime today.
 

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Apparently there was a mistake with the Xbox COD patch and it requires a 66 GB download. So if you are on Xbox and have any plans of playing this weekend, might want to check that download. Fortunately, my download started automatically and is probably going to be done sometime today.
I saw it downloading late last night. Was planning on playing some today.
 

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I saw it downloading late last night. Was planning on playing some today.
I'm constantly checking on mine, I notice big downloads will just stop for no reason and need to be manually restarted.

I have to pause and resume to keep it going.

Of course my wife is going to be gone all day and was hoping to try and get a solo win in today.
 

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I'm constantly checking on mine, I notice big downloads will just stop for no reason and need to be manually restarted.

I have to pause and resume to keep it going.

Of course my wife is going to be gone all day and was hoping to try and get a solo win in today.
Most of the time MW automatically installs for me. Every so often I have to start it myself.

EDIT: just checked it only downloaded half then stopped itself. WTF? Just started it again.
 
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Most of the time MW automatically installs for me. Every so often I have to start it myself.

EDIT: just checked it only downloaded half then stopped itself. WTF? Just started it again.
Mine do that all the time. Working from home I can actually watch them. They get part way done and stop. Only way I can get them going again is to pause and restart it, then it picks up like nothing is wrong.

Makes sense now why I always came home from work to half applied patches even with nobody home all day.

I'm not sure if it is a COD thing or an Xbox thing, I haven't really noticed it on other games, but I don't really play anything that gets major updates anymore. I've definitely seen it on many big COD updates. I check in the morning and something is 80% plus downloaded, then I go in on lunch and it is still at the same part.
 

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The new season LMG seems really good, and it isn't too much of a pain to get. You just need 1 melee in a game while using an LMG in 7 games (1 per game). Just equip an LMG with any melee perks (the breach barrel or whatever works great) and jump on Shipment.

I had zero attachments on it and it already felt good. Recoil isn't too bad and supposedly once you get attachments it gets really good.

Too early to say if it will be meta, but the low recoil guns usually are good.
 
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So, I guess there's a ton of account hacking going on, people getting their entire accounts stolen. I just found out that your COD account is actually separate from your Xbox or PS account, so no matter how secure your console account(s) are, (you should absolutely have two factor auth turned on), they can still get your COD account and unlink it from your gamertag. I went on to mycallofduty.com and changed my password to something more secure. I didn't realize that that single password controlled my COD account.
 

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Seriously, why do people think camping your own spawn a smart move so the opposing team cam lock you down and spawn camp you? Like people are f***ing just stupid as f*** at this game.
 
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Seriously, why do people think camping your own spawn a smart move so the opposing team cam lock you down and spawn camp you? Like people are f***ing just stupid as f*** at this game.
I still say the skill based matchmaking algorithm is completely broken in this game. I'm constantly put into lobbies with players way above my skill. I've been playing since launch and my stats are hard negative since day 1. I feel like 1 out of 5 of my lobbies are against people exactly my skill and I go even, then I get put in the flick shot, drop shot, no scope mouse and keyboard lobbies. Playing passive is my only option as I get insta-killed by a flick shot Kar98 if I dare move.

It is super frustrating. They at least need to add a ranking system in so I can tell why I am so high. I hate playing passive and I normally don't care about stats, I just want to go positive more than negative so I know I'm not a drain on my team. If I can sprint around and go 50/50, that's great. I can't do that in this game though.
 

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I spent 1 week + to download warzone, but delete it yesterday due to lack of space for Destiny 2. I saw some latest gameplay from Shourd. The game doesn't seems to change much over the last 5 months or so.
 

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My other conspiracy theory is that spawns aren't "broken". I think Activision/IW made them bad on purpose to keep the action up. If you follow the kiddies on reddit, they love tiny maps with zero movement. I believe the spawn traps are in there by design. The funny thing is when the game first launched, the spawns weren't as bad, but they changed almost right away, right after everyone complained that the maps were too "big" and played too slow.

I think the devs really wanted to make something that went back to COD4 (which had a lot more map strategy, choke points, varied maps that weren't simple 3 lanes), but the kiddies wanted to get 50 kills in 5 seconds every round. In COD4 you could spend an entire round just fighting over a choke point with very little flanking or spawn flipping. Also the addition of the battle pass means people want XP farms, and those bigger maps didn't give enough XP to be worthwhile.

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Rumors are...Cold War will have the same SBMM. Hope not.
If they are going to keep it, they at least have to add some sort of rank system where you can tell what level you are at (like bronze, gold, etc).

The way it is now, there's zero way to tell if I'm improving or getting worse. What guns am I good with? Am I using a build that I'm terrible with?
 

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Why not just have a casual search in all modes that puts you with randoms like older COD’s and then have a competitive/ranked section if you want constant competition.
 

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Why not just have a casual search in all modes that puts you with randoms like older COD’s and then have a competitive/ranked section if you want constant competition.
That would make sense, but the problem is it doesn't work that way. Destiny 2 has gone through all sorts of these things with skill based matchmaking. They had it on for all modes for a long time, then they made a "classic" mode without it. Guess who played classic? It was filled with Youtubers and top tier players, so it basically became an even worse playlist. The "noobs" actually all go into comp modes that have SBMM. Ultimately, if you split the population, gamers will go where it benefits them.

The hilarious thing in Destiny is that quickplay became the uber sweaty mode, and comp was more fun.

SBMM is one of those things that there's not really a good compromise on. Lower skilled players benefit from it (and I have no doubt they sold a lot of microtransactions to people who were suddenly good at the game), and good players get punished by it. Create a comp playlist and it will have all the noobs in it, and the "casual" playlist becomes insane.
 

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Ok, feel free to attack me and troll me......but I am playing through the campaign right now. I am about 3/4 of the way through. This is one of the best looking games this gen (in the campaign), right up there with Gears 5 and FH4. The attention to detail, particles, some animations are just really really good. I don't think I have paid much attention to the graphics in COD for the past 15 years because it's just "call of duty". But the campaign is not only sexy IMO, but it's pretty fun. I don't want it to end.
 
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Ok, feel free to attack me and troll me......but I am playing through the campaign right now. I am about 3/4 of the way through. This is one of the best looking games this gen (in the campaign), right up there with Gears 5 and FH4. The attention to detail, particles, some animations are just really really good. I don't think I have paid much attention to the graphics in COD for the past 15 years because it's just "call of duty". But the campaign is not only sexy IMO, but it's pretty fun. I don't want it to end.
The campaign was great, just far too short.

Looking at a bunch of Cold War footage, I think this game will go down as one of the all time greats. As much as I complain about it endlessly, we're still talking about a COD game almost a year after release. I've played this game a ton, right up there with MW2. The past many COD games have been a month blip on my radar, but this one has lasted.

The animations are really good, and the ones in the newer game look like a big step back.
 
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That would make sense, but the problem is it doesn't work that way. Destiny 2 has gone through all sorts of these things with skill based matchmaking. They had it on for all modes for a long time, then they made a "classic" mode without it. Guess who played classic? It was filled with Youtubers and top tier players, so it basically became an even worse playlist. The "noobs" actually all go into comp modes that have SBMM. Ultimately, if you split the population, gamers will go where it benefits them.

The hilarious thing in Destiny is that quickplay became the uber sweaty mode, and comp was more fun.

SBMM is one of those things that there's not really a good compromise on. Lower skilled players benefit from it (and I have no doubt they sold a lot of microtransactions to people who were suddenly good at the game), and good players get punished by it. Create a comp playlist and it will have all the noobs in it, and the "casual" playlist becomes insane.
Simply not true. The problem with what Destiny did is that none of the Crucible modes are akin to a Ranked mode, and thus SBMM shouldn't be there at all.

The other peroblem is their Ranked esque mode is time limited. All tgey had to do was remove SBMM from the Crucible, make Trials permanant and add either an actual ranking system or a leaderboard. Job done

Now you have most sweaty tryhards playing Trials, and the casual playerbase has far more room to breath.
 

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Finished the campaign last night. Sexy sexy game. I enjoyed the campaign, and I like how they would shake things up as different characters, different ages, different sexes, stealth, run and gun, awesome graphics, awesome particle effects. Just a fun game overall IMO. With multiplayer not being jet packs or wall running, they redeemed themselves. I do think the UI in multiplayer is 100x way to cluttered. Also the performance wasn't that great on my X1X. Even the credits would stutter as they scroll across the screen.

Game gets a 9/10 from me.
 
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My bullets legit feel like they are going through people tonight.
I bet they've been turning off servers and switching them over to the new game beta. What's funny is that for the first few months, the netcode felt good to me. Sure, there were lag spikes, but overall I felt most gunfights were decided between skill and who saw who first. The last 6 months though are like the old games with lag comp. I get lots of kills where the person doesn't even get a shot off at me, and the opposite happens to me. I'm nothing great, but I can usually get a couple shots off even against a really good player. When I can't (and other people can't either) it has to be lag. Some people don't even seem to move when you shoot at them.
 

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Been a week since the new season started and IW has not fixed the VSS. You can shoot through multiple walls.