Ex-Microsoft privacy adviser: "I don't trust Microsoft now"

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/30/microsoft-privacy-chief-nsa

Caspar Bowden says he was unaware of Prism data-sharing program when he worked at software firm

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Caspar Bowden said the NSA’s surveillance efforts were undermining democracy. Photograph: Unknown
Microsoft's former chief privacy adviser said he did not have faith in the security of the software company's technology during a lecture on revelations about the US's NSA spy agency published in the Guardian.

"Caspar Bowden, who between 2002 and 2011 gave advice on privacy to Microsoft's national technology officers in 40 countries in which Microsoft operated – but not the US – told a conference in Lausanne, Switzerland, that he was unaware of the Prism data-sharing program when he worked at the company.

"I don't trust Microsoft now," he said, adding that he only uses open source software where the underlying code can be examined. He also said he has not carried a mobile phone for two years.

In June the Guardian revealed that an NSA program called Prism could demand data from a number of technology companies at will using court orders that were never rejected.

Bowden said the extent of the NSA's surveillance efforts – where it shares and gathers intelligence with the UK's GCHQ and intelligence agencies in Canada, New Zealand and Australia – was undermining democracy.

"The public now has to think about the fact that anybody in public life, or person in a position of influence in government, business or bureaucracy, now is thinking about what the NSA knows about them. So how can we trust that the decisions that they make are objective and that they aren't changing the decisions that they make to protect their career? That strikes at any system of representative government."

The wording of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) under which the NSA gathers intelligence means that "there's no protection if you're not an American", said Bowden.

He added: "We're living through a transformation in surveillance power that's never been seen before on earth. And we don't know what type of government or leader will come to power next and exploit it. It could be the next president. It could be this one."

Another speaker at the conference, digital activist Jacob Appelbaum, who has worked with WikiLeaks and on the Tor anonymity system, suggested that some employees of the NSA should be arrested if they visit Europe on the basis that by deliberately weakening cryptographic systems they had put people in danger.

Earlier this month the Guardian explained how NSA and GCHQ have worked to insert mathematical weaknesses into cryptography systems used to scramble internet data and other information.

That has put people at risk of their lives, Appelbaum argued. "People who commit mass human-rights violations, they should be prosecuted," he said. "The NSA has a slogan internally — 'we track 'em, you whack 'em' – where they help to target drone strikes." Such strikes were an abuse of natural justice, he said.

• This article, including the headline, was amended on 7 October 2013. An earlier version gave the impression that Bowden's distrust of Microsoft's technology did not begin until after the NSA revelations. In addition we also suggested that he was in charge of the company's privacy policy and that he now trusts open source software where he can examine the underlying code himself. All three errors have been corrected.
 
I don't trust this guy that we can't trust MS.
 
Companies are required by law to install things like Prism.

Just like phone companies have requirements for easy wire taps.

These companies would rather not do it, but they literally have no choice.

Why is Microsoft the only company being singled out? That's really the question to ask... Hating on MS has been click bait for over a decade now.
 
Companies are required by law to install things like Prism.
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Care to elaborate on that? What law requires companies to install data sharing / data mining for the government to use? For the sake of clarity I'm not suggesting your wrong, I've just not heard of this specifically.

I know companies were legally compelled, strong armed or whatever into handing over data, but I haven't heard specifically of a law that requires companies to install some kind of software or system that automatically sends data.
 
Care to elaborate on that? What law requires companies to install data sharing / data mining for the government to use? For the sake of clarity I'm not suggesting your wrong, I've just not heard of this specifically.

I know companies were legally compelled, strong armed or whatever into handing over data, but I haven't heard specifically of a law that requires companies to install some kind of software or system that automatically sends data.
I dunno about government installing stuff, don't think that actually happened, Prism is a data mining program (not a software program though afaik) that just collected data through requests, not an actual installed program. But the patriot act is what legally requires these companies to comply with the government regarding handing over their user data.
 
Care to elaborate on that? What law requires companies to install data sharing / data mining for the government to use? For the sake of clarity I'm not suggesting your wrong, I've just not heard of this specifically.

I know companies were legally compelled, strong armed or whatever into handing over data, but I haven't heard specifically of a law that requires companies to install some kind of software or system that automatically sends data.

Wasn't worded well.. especially considering PRISM is a computer system operated by the NSA.

The government requires telecommunications companies provide access to information upon request, they are required to comply with these requests by law. The requests involve sharing of large amounts of digital information, and for the sake of it actually working and not being a total clusterf*** such information is shared in standard formats. The government has worked with companies on various solutions, and paid them to do so.

"Installing things like Prism" was not directly meant to say Prism itself involved installing things.

In MS's case.. outside of PRISM itself.. since they operate multiple telecommunications services that include voice and video communication.. they ARE required to give the government the ability to "wire tap" that communication.

It involves installing software. Hence Kinect/Skype/etc. terms of service.

You can't create a telecommunications network and not give a way for the government to access it. That is well outside of PRISM and long-standing laws.. it's no different than telephones in concept.. and almost zero difference between it and digital phone services.
 
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Wasn't worded well.. especially considering PRISM is a computer system operated by the NSA.

The government requires telecommunications companies provide access to information upon request, they are required to comply with these requests by law. The requests involve sharing of large amounts of digital information, and for the sake of it actually working and not being a total clusterf*** such information is shared in standard formats. The government has worked with companies on various solutions, and paid them to do so.
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Yeah, this is more or less what my understanding of it is. I thought I'd missed something big after reading your first post (which I would agree with about Microsoft taking so much flak. IMO Facebook would be a far bigger offender)
 
I don't trust this ex-Microsoft employee. All this talk about Microsoft attacking "democracy" sounds a lot like Sarah Palin's "they hate our freedom." And as expected, of course, ex-Microsoft employee has sour relationship with previous employer.
 
Does anyone get the suspicion that Sony has something to do with this?
 
Does anyone get the suspicion that Sony has something to do with this?

No.

The problem with a growing number of minds on the internet is that because MS and Sony compete in the console space that they must be mortal enemies, that's just the stupidity of the zealots, these guys (MS and Sony) support one another in different fields.

Take Windows operating systems on Sony notebooks/laptops for instance, ever heard of the Sony VAIO?
 
No.

The problem with a growing number of minds on the internet is that because MS and Sony compete in the console space that they must be mortal enemies, that's just the stupidity of the zealots, these guys (MS and Sony) support one another in different fields.

Take Windows operating systems on Sony notebooks/laptops for instance, ever heard of the Sony VAIO?
:laugh: It was a joke