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I would say there's a significant decline in quality this season. Of course, it is still a good show and I'm still interested in the characters, but I'm preparing for a poor ending. The battle of Winterfell just had too much of that "Star Wars" feel where major characters survive in spite of everyone else dying. I'm not saying certain characters had to die, but it felt cheesy that only secondary ones died.

This is Game of Thrones, where the guy you think is going to be the hero in the 1st season gets killed. Another hero gets killed at his own wedding.

This is the show where the heroes don't always win (if at all). It doesn't get evaluated the same as other shows because it isn't the same.
 
Been rewatching season 1 on the plane and it truly is an amazing show, the dialogue holds so much weight behind it and everyone has their own scheming ways. Also makes me miss Tywin and king Robert so much.
 
Of course some complaints are valid. But people seem quick to forget about calling earlier season's slow with nothing happening till near the end.
Or accusing it of jumping the shark at stuff like Stannis shadow.
They say characters are acting dumb.... been dumb since S1 most of them and are now in positions they aren't used to.
People complained about seeing all the travelling them bitched when it was cut down or do they still need to be told it takes at least 2 weeks to travel from Winterfell to King's Landing? Which for the record took Ned 1 episode.

D&D have messed some things up (Dorne, not including Lady Stone Heart, Dire Wolf stuff, Mance) but they are also behind many of the show's best moments.
People also act like the books are perfect... shall we ignore Feast for Crows then? Maybe have a whole scene of Dany s***ting herself?
Follow Brienne around for weeks asking about Sansa?
Or the simple fact the writers had one hand chopped off because Martin wrote himself into a corner and hasn't released a book in years? Pissed away plenty of time on side projects though.
 
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Of course some complaints are valid. But people seem quick to forget about calling earlier season's slow with nothing happening till near the end.
Or accusing it of jumping the shark at stuff like Stannis shadow.
They say characters are acting dumb.... been dumb since S1 most of them and are now in positions they aren't used to.
People complained about seeing all the travelling them b****ed when it was cut down or do they still need to be told it takes at least 2 weeks to travel from Winterfell to King's Landing? Which for the record took Ned 1 episode.

D&D have messed some things up (Dorne, not including Lady Stone Heart, Dire Wolf stuff, Mance) but they are also behind many of the show's best moments.
People also act like the books are perfect... shall we ignore Feast for Crows then? Maybe have a whole scene of Dany s***ting herself?
Follow Brienne around for weeks asking about Sansa?
Or the simple fact the writers had one hand chopped off because Martin wrote himself into a corner and hasn't released a book in years? Pissed away plenty of time on side projects though.

Not sure if those complaints would be valid though. Not sure what slow would mean. Not supposed to be a show of big battles. Tyrion is a good example of a character who is acting dumb but isn't supposed to be.

This past episode got a lot of flack and it wasn't just from people who read books so that shouldn't even be the issue. Even critically it did poor and that never happens.

The complaints about them teleporting has a lot to do with them rushing to the end. Even if that means skipping story beats. Does it matter that Dany got to Kings Landing in 1 episode? No but it does when you want to have scenes like with Varys and Tyrion questioning whether she should be Queen. They didn't take any time to build that up. This is a show that won't take 2 minutes to show Arya and Sansa react to who Jon is.

The audience didn't want the spectacle of dragons flying. They wanted the emotional moment of Jon saying goodbye to Ghost.

He should have completed the books but it was obvious even when the show started that he wasn't going to. So this is the task they took on. Its their responsibility to see it through or get out of the way and let someone else do it. They are cutting the show short so they can move on to their other projects.
 
I’m a little late to the discussion here, but 2 things:

1. Love the show, BUT (there’s always a ‘but’!) it’s quite obvious where George’s stuff ended and the other writers took over. It’s not that I consider the episodes bad, but they are far more straightforward/obvious/predictable than George’s. It’s like cold pizza....still good, just not as good as when it’s fresh.

2. I didn’t read this whole thread, so I’m not sure if this had been addressed, but after the battle of Winterfell, how the hell were there so many bodies left to be burned? After the Knight King resurrected all the dead people in the middle of the battle, there was a little time before the battle ended. But since all the zombies exploded, where did all the bodies come from?
 
I’m a little late to the discussion here, but 2 things:

1. Love the show, BUT (there’s always a ‘but’!) it’s quite obvious where George’s stuff ended and the other writers took over. It’s not that I consider the episodes bad, but they are far more straightforward/obvious/predictable than George’s. It’s like cold pizza....still good, just not as good as when it’s fresh.

2. I didn’t read this whole thread, so I’m not sure if this had been addressed, but after the battle of Winterfell, how the hell were there so many bodies left to be burned? After the Knight King resurrected all the dead people in the middle of the battle, there was a little time before the battle ended. But since all the zombies exploded, where did all the bodies come from?

They didn't all explode. Only the White Walkers. Rest just went back to being dead.
 
It's a fair answer. People will complain no matter what it is. Already b****ing about characters that have been killed, didn't end up with who ever and so on.

Been seeing a real toxic fanbase over the last couple years
Not surprising the "toxicity" comes as the shows quality drops.
 
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Like WWE style booking they might make it a triple threat and add Greyworm last minute?
 
Really cool shot composition when Dany killed Varys, but f*** Dany for that.

Awesome scene with Tyrion and Jaime.

f*** Dany for basically everything.

Hound vs. Mountain was good and ended how it should.

Cool cinematography and effects through out especially Arya and the horse scene.

Good episode.

Arya better kill Dany.
 
Good departure from the fan service from last season. Love seeing the tears from the "yaas queen" fans more than seeing King's Landing burn.
 
Really cool shot composition when Dany killed Varys, but f*** Dany for that.

Awesome scene with Tyrion and Jaime.

f*** Dany for basically everything.

Hound vs. Mountain was good and ended how it should.

Cool cinematography and effects through out especially Arya and the horse scene.

Good episode.

Arya better kill Dany.
Dany could slip on a banana peel and hit her skull on the side of the rock as her death and I'd be jumping for joy.

Mostly good episode, but damn, those scorpions were hella nerfed. Euron forgot to equip aim assist apparently. D&D know how to make previous episodes completely f***ing pointless.
 


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Well some of those points are valid, before she got to Westeros she was mostly loved and adored by people but she brought a large foreign army and a bad family reputation with her and people were skeptical. Everyone around her betrayed her (in her eyes) or gave her totally bad advice and stopped her from what she originally wanted to do which probably would have worked out better. She still would have had to fight the dead but she could have easily taken kings landing right away if her hand hadn't talked her out of it. She has no attachment to the people in Westeros other than wanting to be their queen, she doesn't know them, they have no lover for her and she has none for them.

The HBO behind the episode thing tonight showed how she reacted when her brother was killed early on I the series, she wasn't even upset so clearly she can be cold hearted towards those that she feels are her enemy..
 
The HBO behind the episode thing tonight showed how she reacted when her brother was killed early on I the series, she wasn't even upset so clearly she can be cold hearted towards those that she feels are her enemy..

That is pretty weak. She had no reason to be upset. He treated her like s***.
 
Am disappointed by how Cersi and Jaime died. Wish it was bigger. I wonder how it would be written in the book...

He is going to kill her in the books. Seems like the right end for them both but they went away from his book arc seasons ago so I guess I can't be too surprised.