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One of my friend's hated it cause Jon didn't end up on the throne and another because Dany didn't. They liked everything else but because of that the episode was bad apparently.
The Azor Ahai story ended rather weakly. I mean I'm guessing it was Jon and it was actually killing Dany that he was pofisied to do to save the realm? Remember the Night King doesn't exist in the books.
Jon did play the main role in uniting the realm to fighting them
But odd for it to be a large part of Melisandre story and for her to just kill herself before it's happened or for her or Bran to mention it
The Azor Ahai story ended rather weakly. I mean I'm guessing it was Jon and it was actually killing Dany that he was pofisied to do to save the realm? Remember the Night King doesn't exist in the books.
Jon did play the main role in uniting the realm to fighting them
But odd for it to be a large part of Melisandre story and for her to just kill herself before it's happened or for her or Bran to mention it
1. They dropped it because discussions with GRRM led them to believe its going nowhere
2. They dropped it because they decided they wanted to surprise people by having Arya kill the Night King
3. In the books Jon kills her before they battle the dead and they reversed because reasons
4. Its about killing Dany and they couldn't figure out how to explain it
I'd lean towards #4 because if he saved everyone ass twice it would be pretty strange for everyone not to want him to be King. Unless he just leaves completely on his own in the book. Maybe the stabbing someone to get a burning sword thing doesn't happen in the books or they thought its just too much fantasy? Either way they needed to make the call way sooner. I guess they can't just cut it out like they did the "volunqar" prophesy but at least that isn't a plot hole.
We might find out before 2050.
Didn't he also say the books would be finished before the show ended?
Really? The fact that John, Dany, Cersei, Sansa didn't end up on the throne is the only redeemable thing about it. Sure, they f***ed that up by it being Bran, but still.....
They as in Martin. The 2nd book even hints at it being Bran. Only difference is the books will flesh out the 3 eyed raven bits much better than the show.
They shouldn't have left him out of S5. Could have spent 2 seasons training him and explaining what he can do.
Could have also used it to bring back Bean and co.
And yeah he planned to finish the books before the show ended. Original plan was 10 seasons.
Should have made Bran less robotic. Max Von Sydow was not so robotic so no reason for Bran to be.
Most of the cast seem glad to be done with it, I think people like Jon and Dany would have been gone after this season even if they had continued. I do agree more episodes would have helped, sure several of them were extended this season but it I think at least 2 more this season would have helped a lot.
This last episode seemed more like two episodes spliced together. I think they rushed the first half a bit and it also hurt that Kit and Emilia didn't have any real chemistry in that scene, at least I don't think they did and their acting wasn't very good during the death either, there was just something strange about how that whole thing was filmed and it lacked any real impact to me, Drogons heartbreak was more convincing than the two actors lol.
I would have loved to have had an episode dedicated to Jon coming to grips with what he had to do but not needing a speech from Tyrian to make it happen, that scene in the jail was well acted but made Jon come across like an idiot and he's not. Don't get me wrong I still liked the episode overall but it could have been done better and as I said before I'm glad that none of the main characters took the throne, Bran does make the most sense even if they made some mistakes by not including him more in other episodes.
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Can we stop talking about the books. In the context of the show Bran being on the Throne is dumb.
10 seasons would have been good.
I don't doubt that some were ready to leave. Not an uncommon thing when TV show breaks but would anyone have left? I really doubt that. HBO would have given them the money necessary to lock them into contracts for however long it was decided to go.
The problem with Bran being King deals with how rushed it was. You have no idea why the characters on that council would be ok with him or even if know anything about his powers. You don't know why Yara and "The new Prince or Dorne"
don't follow Sansa into independence. They just all kind of followed the guy in chains. A guy at least some of them probably wouldn't think too highly of. If that book scene at the end was taken seriously instead of the joke Tyrion would be a villain in it. He was never liked, most would think he killed Joffrey, and most would think he led the Mad Queen to murder everyone.Problem with too many seasons is Dany. Once she has the army and the dragons its hard for the audience to not be annoyed at her not just going and taking Kings Landing. Another shorten season could have been the best situation. Could have had this season focus on the Night King which would have made it less of a letdown and then next season Kings Landing allowing that to have more time.
To be fair it's never confirmed Giliy knows who jon really is. She just stumbled on the annulment part which Sam didn't pick up on when she said it.
Plus the red keep did technically fall. The mad king let tywin in not knowing he was here to betray him and Jamie killed him which gave the north a quick victory.
Plus the red keep did technically fall. The mad king let tywin in not knowing he was here to betray him and Jamie killed him which gave the north a quick victory.
Pretty sad that Jon dies just to get out of the Night's Watch and Jon is a Targaryen just to annoy Dany. Huge moments for him that could be taken out and the story doesn't change that much.
Not really. I mean she gets her army pretty quick, yes, but slavers bay was a great place to keep her and build up her twist.I don't doubt that some were ready to leave. Not an uncommon thing when TV show breaks but would anyone have left? I really doubt that. HBO would have given them the money necessary to lock them into contracts for however long it was decided to go.
The problem with Bran being King deals with how rushed it was. You have no idea why the characters on that council would be ok with him or even if know anything about his powers. You don't know why Yara and "The new Prince or Dorne"
Problem with too many seasons is Dany. Once she has the army and the dragons its hard for the audience to not be annoyed at her not just going and taking Kings Landing. Another shorten season could have been the best situation. Could have had this season focus on the Night King which would have made it less of a letdown and then next season Kings Landing allowing that to have more time.
Maybe. Either way there is no question that they needed more time. The last two seasons feel so rushed you would think it was run by completely new people.
And I feel justified about my complaints before the season of everyone teleporting. It really was a sign of things to come.
You're right. It is neither of those, it is worse.Not much love for the ending so? I didn't mind it at all. I agree they left a lot of holes in the story but hey,.. at least its not Lost!
And it is most definitely no Dexter