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Nervusbreakdown

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I'm talking as whole.

MS was the first to put a HDD and a Network adapter in every OG xbox.

MS was the first to make xbox xbox live work on day one on every console after its second year on the OG Xbox.

MS also made parry chat built in the party chat in the OG xbox in the dashboard.

MS was also the first to made friends easy with cross chat no matter what game you were playing.

MS was the first to bring DLC on the OG xbox.

MS was also the first to introduce achievements in every game.

That was game changer to all of us.

MS was also first to have a hdmi in and out so you still on xbox live while watching TV.

What did Sony really bring?

A weak online Infrastructure and part chat was so last gen which they have it now.

Unlike Sony, MS will always change the game.

That being said they are things that really gets me under my skin on MS decision on some things which I dont get. So they are not perfect but they definitely made gaming what it is.
 

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I'm talking as whole.

MS was the first to put a HDD and a Network adapter in every OG xbox.

MS was the first to make xbox xbox live work on day one on every console after its second year on the OG Xbox.

MS also made parry chat built in the party chat in the OG xbox in the dashboard.

MS was also the first to made friends easy with cross chat no matter what game you were playing.

MS was the first to bring DLC on the OG xbox.

MS was also the first to introduce achievements in every game.

That was game changer to all of us.

MS was also first to have a hdmi in and out so you still on xbox live while watching TV.

What did Sony really bring?

A weak online Infrastructure and part chat was so last gen which they have it now.

Unlike Sony, MS will always change the game.

That being said they are things that really gets me under my skin on MS decision on some things which I dont get. So they are not perfect but they definitely made gaming what it is.
So you had to go back 2 decades to find any real innovation.

Acheivmdnts are a gimmick.
HDMI in is a niche feature.

Ms hasn't changed jack in 2 generations....and have been in freefall for the last decade. Tthe most important part of a games console is where they faulter most. You keep ignoring this and trying to deflect with lists that show MS's days of innovation and meaningful trend setting are gone.
 

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Crisizing MS for lack of innovation they brought to gaming while the competition copied every move since they've been in the console space, then shifting to 'but teh games'.

Unbelievable. Oh and Gamepass is evil, right? Not meaningful at all? Watch the competition copy that too very soon next gen and getting praised for it by those same gamers.
 

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Most popular brand, had the best messaging, and followed it up with highly acclaimed games.

Only way MS was ever going to break the perception of it being the inferior console was with great must play games. It never happened.
One thing I've observed about SONY PlayStation games is that they have framerate problems and the gameplay is usually the weaker part of the experience.

The gameplay of HALO was never beaten by SONY. They gave up trying to compete. Gears has the best third person online gameplay. SONY has nothing to answer for it. And racing is ruled by Microsoft. Both Microsoft's FORZA Motorsport and FORZA Horizon series defeat SONY's Gran Turismo and Driveclub. The replayability for these games is high for single and multiplayer.

Remember the amazing hype for No Man's Sky? Both the gameplay and framerates were in bad condition at launch and people were still trying to convince themselves it was a success.

This generation SONY have been comically terrible with framerate drops. Their coding is the weaker part of their games.
 
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One thing I've observed about SONY PlayStation games is that they have framerate problems and the gameplay is usually the weaker part of the experience.

The gameplay of HALO was never beaten by SONY. They gave up trying to compete. Gears has the best third person online gameplay. SONY has nothing to answer for it. And racing is ruled by Microsoft. Both Microsoft's FORZA Motorsport and FORZA Horizon series defeat SONY's Gran Turismo and Driveclub. The replayability for these games is high for single and multiplayer.

Remember the amazing hype for No Man's Sky? Both the gameplay and framerates were in bad condition at launch and people were still trying to convince themselves it was a success.

This generation SONY have been comically terrible with framerate drops. Their coding is the weaker part of their games.
While you make good points, I feel like after a year of updates to Gran Turismo Sport, it’s one of my favorite racers now. I think the meta score would be much higher than it debuted if they rated it today.
 

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One thing I've observed about SONY PlayStation games is that they have framerate problems and the gameplay is usually the weaker part of the experience.

The gameplay of HALO was never beaten by SONY. They gave up trying to compete. Gears has the best third person online gameplay. SONY has nothing to answer for it. And racing is ruled by Microsoft. Both Microsoft's FORZA Motorsport and FORZA Horizon series defeat SONY's Gran Turismo and Driveclub. The replayability for these games is high for single and multiplayer.

Remember the amazing hype for No Man's Sky? Both the gameplay and framerates were in bad condition at launch and people were still trying to convince themselves it was a success.

This generation SONY have been comically terrible with framerate drops. Their coding is the weaker part of their games.
That is great that Microsoft had Bungie to make great Halos. That was my favorite series at the time and I would have had taken their first party over Sony's 10 years ago. Hopefully we can get back to something similar so people don't have to talk about the good old days to try and make them look better than Sony. Its good that Sony stopped chasing Halo as them doing their own thing has been much better for them.

Not sure what NMS has to do with Sony. The game is even on Xbox
 

Nervusbreakdown

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So again this proves everything what I just said.

While everyone here is trying to say it's nothing big what MS have done, not once I have heard what Sony brought to the table.
 

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Good lord, can we not do the console war crap?

Using the Playstation against Menace is silly because he games on Xbox One.
 

yankeessuck

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So again this proves everything what I just said.

While everyone here is trying to say it's nothing big what MS have done, not once I have heard what Sony brought to the table.
I think MS has put out some great features but it doesn't excuse their inability to release quality games and that has nothing to do with Sony. Even if Sony was releasing bad games that doesn't excuse MS.


Crisizing MS for lack of innovation they brought to gaming while the competition copied every move since they've been in the console space, then shifting to 'but teh games'.

Unbelievable. Oh and Gamepass is evil, right? Not meaningful at all? Watch the competition copy that too very soon next gen and getting praised for it by those same gamers.
But the whole topic started with menace talking about "teh games"

Of course they will copy each other. That is how it works. Did you know PS Now came first? Trying to one up the other guy is not such a bad thing.
 

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Not necessarily Xbox related, but it IS coming to it, I hope so much that we're gonna see Watch_Dogs 3 revealed at E3 with a release this year, since there won't be a AC this year. But I recall that Ubi officially revealed WD2 way before E3, hmm.
 

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Good lord, can we not do the console war crap?

Using the Playstation against Menace is silly because he games on Xbox One.
It is my fault. I bought up games forgetting the Xbox defense force can't handle the topic and revert to two decade old accomplishments
 

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One thing I've observed about SONY PlayStation games is that they have framerate problems and the gameplay is usually the weaker part of the experience.

The gameplay of HALO was never beaten by SONY. They gave up trying to compete. Gears has the best third person online gameplay. SONY has nothing to answer for it. And racing is ruled by Microsoft. Both Microsoft's FORZA Motorsport and FORZA Horizon series defeat SONY's Gran Turismo and Driveclub. The replayability for these games is high for single and multiplayer.

Remember the amazing hype for No Man's Sky? Both the gameplay and framerates were in bad condition at launch and people were still trying to convince themselves it was a success.

This generation SONY have been comically terrible with framerate drops. Their coding is the weaker part of their games.
No.

Forza Motorsport has bedn in decline for years now. Forza 7 is pretty poor in all regards. Funnything is now T10 are playing catch up with features GT Sport had years ago.
 

Frozpot

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No.

Forza Motorsport has bedn in decline for years now. Forza 7 is pretty poor in all regards. Funnything is now T10 are playing catch up with features GT Sport had years ago.
Kinda how it goes, and why competition is so crucial.
 

Nervusbreakdown

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I won....

Changing subject....
I wonder what will they announce for price for these next gen consoles.