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Haha, sounds like you're not too fond of Playstation. Nah I was just curious about some impressions here. No loading or at least significantly shorter loading times would be a live saver. Man I remember Witcher 3 on base Xbox One, Jesus.



It's starting to sound more and more like it will be Xbox that will have the edge over Sony, again. Unless insiders and rumors are wrong, but they all hint at Xbox being more powerful or at least MS absolutely aiming to be the most powerful.



You mean Xcloud? It sounds promising but right now I am definitely taking the wait and see approach when it comes to game streaming. Google Stadia as well sounds great, lots of nice promises, but will it truly be what they said? Certainly not this year. I don't believe that.

Anyway, a poster on Era that seems to be in the know about things just said this :





The poster is hmqgg.
👍 Don't always believe Mark 'the fart' Cerny, he's often flapping his lie maker, doing Damage control. He knows Xbox anaconda will be the strongest console
 
👍 Don't always believe Mark 'the fart' Cerny, he's often flapping his lie maker, doing Damage control. He knows Xbox anaconda will be the strongest console
True. We are still waiting for the PS Pro secret sauce that doubles the Pro’s teraflops according to Cerny.

"In other words, at full floats, we have 4.2 teraflops. With half-floats, it's now double that, which is to say, 8.4 teraflops in 16-bit computation. This has the potential to radically increase performance."
 
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I put in a lot of time in that game late on 360 then bought it again for One X early last year. Game is like crack I kind of miss playing it my main was a Barb it let you import from 360 to One.

Hows the Necro? I don’t have the newest expansion.
Awesome! You can raise a couple of different types of units to fight for you, including a Golem and a skeleton army. I've been using the skeletons mostly, but the Golem is good too. Your RT can raise skeleton archers that do some serious damage as well, but those expire over time. Best part is you can use corpses of slain enemies to launch attacks at other ones, including using them as bombs or turning their corpses into a powerful arrow attack.

Game rules, forgot how addicting it is.
 
I saw on Era a few posts that insiders have been hinting that MS will have the edge, but that seems mostly based on that MS is aiming to be the strongest. And yeah, Phil has said a while ago that they will no longer give away the hardware advantage or something like that.

Klobrille also sent something to Nibel and it seemed he knows more. That was a few days ago however. As someone that prefers Xbox I hope Xbox will have the lead or at least be on par. If they are gonna come with two different Xbox systems, they can afford to throw in that little bit of extra and ask a high price as well. I know I will buy it for damn sure.
 
I saw on Era a few posts that insiders have been hinting that MS will have the edge, but that seems mostly based on that MS is aiming to be the strongest. And yeah, Phil has said a while ago that they will no longer give away the hardware advantage or something like that.

Klobrille also sent something to Nibel and it seemed he knows more. That was a few days ago however. As someone that prefers Xbox I hope Xbox will have the lead or at least be on par. If they are gonna come with two different Xbox systems, they can afford to throw in that little bit of extra and ask a high price as well. I know I will buy it for damn sure.
Agreed. Day one for me. Great console and great games!!
 
Agreed. Day one for me. Great console and great games!!

Absolutely. The X especially is superb. I'm glad MS is back when it comes to caring about power.

I wonder, can we expect a much faster, smoother dashboard too? I mean they have definitely improved on it through the years but it still has plenty of annoyingly sluggish moments, especially in the store.
 
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The X is the most powerful console at the moment and I think they should stick with that idea for next gen :wink:
 
I will just keep playing on X1 until Microsoft proves they can consistently make good games
 
Hell yeah.

Here's the thread from Era that is about MS likely having the edge for next gen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/in...ter-performing-device-compared-to-ps5.112333/

Remember the second hidden GPU garbage that was being thrown around about the X1? don't believe any of this stuff right now. In all honesty the power differential either way won't be enough to be significant. Both of them will be going with AMD and there is only so much that can be done to get the parts they are using to a console friendly level when it comes to heat, power draw and pricing. Both machines are likely to be pretty much the same, what'll set the apart will be the exclusive games and to a lesser degree the services they offer.
 
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Remember the second hidden GPU garbage that was being thrown around about the X1? don't believe any of this stuff right now. In all honesty the power differential either way won't be enough to be significant. Both of them will be going with AMD and there is only so much that can be done to get the parts they are using to a console friendly level when it comes to heat, power draw and pricing. Both machines are likely to be pretty much the same, what'll set the apart will be the exclusive games and to a lesser degree the services they offer.

The only one babbling about a second hidden GPU was misterxmedia, and we all knew he is a r****d. 😆
 
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The only one babbling about a second hidden GPU was misterxmedia, and we all knew he is a r****d. 😆

Sadly people tried to spin that into "hey may be wrong but I think he's onto something" lol. There were a lot of people saying the X1 was going to be more powerful than the PS4 even if they didn't go to the same extreme he did. I'm not saying the next xbox may not be a little more powerful than the PS5, we really don't know one way or the other yet but regardless of which one is more powerful it won't be by much.
 
Sadly people tried to spin that into "hey may be wrong but I think he's onto something" lol. There were a lot of people saying the X1 was going to be more powerful than the PS4 even if they didn't go to the same extreme he did. I'm not saying the next xbox may not be a little more powerful than the PS5, we really don't know one way or the other yet but regardless of which one is more powerful it won't be by much.

If one had dedicated Ray Tracing hardware and one had to do it in software, that would make a huge difference. It would make RT more common without sacrificing a lot of cycles. Just the architectural choices they make could have ramifications. DF had a vid on DXR (DX12 software based), and even on comparably performant level cards (1080 vs 2080), once RT was turned on, the specific hardware pulled way ahead.

Impossible to know right now anyway...
 
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Anyone have a B3D account? I can’t see the pics, so please post if possible (pics are in this post but won’t link here without an account):

https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/...nical-merits-spawn.61092/page-10#post-2066117

“It's interesting that you mention this, because something like that was send a while back to a good friend of mine that works for one of the larger european tech/games/console websites. Since this is the baseless next gen rumors thread I've reached out to him after I saw you're post, and asked if I can share it.

He told me the person who send them the info provided them correct information in the past. But he only ever provides information as a middleman. Basically: "my brother knows someone, that in turn knows someone, whose grandma knows a dog which is the pet of an Engineer working on project XXX, which brought her a schematic for XYZ" type of stories.

Of course they wanted more assurance. But since they didn't get it from the middlemans source they didn't published it. The gist of it is:

Apparently the source was "leaking" this stuff to keep the expactations in check after reading many unrealistic expactations of over 14 TFLOP on the forums. The middleman sat down with a new source and received information on Lockhart, Anaconda, the Dev Kit and xCloud/Anthem v3. According to himself the middleman was very skeptical and asked the source to answer all questions and write everything down on the spot in order to see if they make mistakes or pause for a while which would make the info even more suspect. But according to the middleman that was not the case, everything was written down fluidly, so he made pictures of the pages and send them to the website my friend works for.

The amount written down: 11 A4 pages pure text and 5 A4 pages with data/drawings. I've only seen 5 pages text and 3 pages data/drawings. Some data is made unreadable, I don't know what was written there. I also don't know what was written on the other pages since I've never seen them.

I'm allowed to share these 8 pages:

Page 1:
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Page 3:
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Page 5:
Specs:
Layout:
Config:
 
Scratch that, they are here:

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I'm not trying to read all that chicken scratch...

Edit: Only thing I could make out.
Lockhart: 5 teraflops. 12 gigs of Ram with 192 bit bus @ 336 gb/s
Anaconda: 11 teraflops. 24 gigs of Ram with 384 bit bus @ 672 gb/s
 
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Hmm. Who is this supposed to be from? Why would anyone hand write all that?
 
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