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I'm sure it won't be 24tf, but the performance will be 4x . There's most likely a lot of HW acceleration helping
However it works out, it's going to be amazing. 4k at 60fps at max details should be a breeze.

I guess I've got to get a 4k tv finally.
 
Xbox should really prioritize a power advantage over Sony, it’s like free advertising because of all the comparison videos and articles for the 3rd party releases
 
Wasn’t it being rumored that Navi was exclusive to PS5?

That never made sense, why would AMD make a chip exclusive to one company when they could make a lot more money making it open to everyone? I'm sure the version Sony is using is exclusive to them just like the one MS is using is exclusive to them, they both colab with AMD for modifications etc. It's nice to see that rumor put to rest.
 
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Xbox should really prioritize a power advantage over Sony, it’s like free advertising because of all the comparison videos and articles for the 3rd party releases

They are basically going to be the same thing, to get any noticeable difference in power would make it way too expensive and probably not even possible in a console form factor. Both will be good machines I'm sure and both will make great looking games.
 
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I want to joke about it, but honestly, does anyone have a f***ing clue what they meant in the reveal video when the guy talks about the combination of the SSD and a solid state drive? Aren't those two things, you know, the same?
 
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I want to joke about it, but honestly, does anyone have a f***ing clue what they meant in the reveal video when the guy talks about the combination of the SSD and a solid state drive? Aren't those two things, you know, the same?
I watched the video again and listened intently at that bit and the guy says"its the combination of the soc and the ssd". Also just to respond to any one believing the latest rumor that ps5 will be more powerful than Scarlett anaconda
Microsoft is claiming 4x Xbox one x performance with hardware accelerated ray tracing, Sony made no claims of the performance gains the ps5 would have over the ps4 except for load times and no mention of hardware accelerated ray tracing.
 
Xbox should really prioritize a power advantage over Sony, it’s like free advertising because of all the comparison videos and articles for the 3rd party releases


Totes, but they/Phil/scarlet-video were rather mum on actual power details...what may have some ppl (besides those who made bets on TFlops in a thread) worried that Phil said “it’s our most powerful console “ instead of “its the most powerful next gen console...but there’s still next years e3 to finalize details for both Sony and ms
 
Totes, but they/Phil/scarlet-video were rather mum on actual power details...what may have some ppl (besides those who made bets on TFlops in a thread) worried that Phil said “it’s our most powerful console “ instead of “its the most powerful next gen console...but there’s still next years e3 to finalize details for both Sony and ms
Microsoft have no way of knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt what the tflop performance of the ps5 will be and I think they are playing it safe and not saying it will be the most powerful next gen console because it would be a nightmare trying to walk that claim back if ps5 has the performance edge. Again having said that I still think that the Xbox team is cautiously confident that Scarlett anaconda will have the performance edge over ps5 by actually stating how many times more powerful next gen Xbox will be over the X.
 
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Totes, but they/Phil/scarlet-video were rather mum on actual power details...what may have some ppl (besides those who made bets on TFlops in a thread) worried that Phil said “it’s our most powerful console “ instead of “its the most powerful next gen console...but there’s still next years e3 to finalize details for both Sony and ms

That's why people saying "Phil said they'd always have the most power" never made sense, how could they know exactly what Sony is doing? You can't realistically make a claim like that until everything is finalized and made public on both sides. I don't think either company will ever be giving up a 30% difference in power when they go head to head again.
 
Microsoft have no way of knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt what the tflop performance of the ps5 will be and I think they are playing it safe and not saying it will be the most powerful next gen console because it would be a nightmare trying to walk that claim back if ps5 has the performance edge. Again having said that I still think that the Xbox team is cautiously confident that Scarlett anaconda will have the performance edge over ps5 by actually stating how many times more powerful next gen Xbox will be over the X.

They were talking CPU, that's realistic for both machines, you aren't going to get a 24TF GPU so that 4X doesn't apply to everything.
 
No body here is assuming 24 tflops but there is no way that Microsoft is claiming its for 4x the CPU only.

It's more powerful of course but 4X isn't going to mean every aspect, I've seen people online talking about 24TF and being defensive when told it's not possible. It was a bit of an irresponsible claim to make without qualifying it.
 
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It's more powerful of course but 4X isn't going to mean ever aspect, I've seen people online talking about 24TF and being defensive when told it's not possible. It was a bit of an irresponsible claim to make without qualifying it.
Time will tell, it would not surprise me if Microsoft allows the tech nerds at Digital Foundry
some hands on with the system before e3 2020 like they did with the X in 2017.
DF would not hold back in saying that the 4x performance gain over the X
claims are bogus if not verifiable.
 
Wasn’t it being rumored that Navi was exclusive to PS5?

Lightly rumored, I never believed it because Navi was on AMD's architecture roadmap anyway, so that wouldn't make sense.
 
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4x as powerful as X1X? I know not everything is measured in flops but that would be 24tflops? That can't be right. Maybe 14tfloos and the hardware that is doing the raytracing?

Maybe the CPU will be 4 times as powerful

I'm so confused but super pumped for hardware raytracing! That is going to be a HUGE!!!

The CPU is probably about 16-20 times more powerful than what's in X.
 
They are basically going to be the same thing, to get any noticeable difference in power would make it way too expensive and probably not even possible in a console form factor. Both will be good machines I'm sure and both will make great looking games.
MS did specifically say hardware accelerated RT. That could make a huge difference...
 
MS did specifically say hardware accelerated RT. That could make a huge difference...

Sony talked about RT already too, they were revealing hardware specs in that interview so I wouldn't assume theirs is anything but hardware accelerated either.
 
The CPU is probably about 16-20 times more powerful than what's in X.

It'll be a lot more capable for sure but the point is the GPU isn't a 24tf gpu, it's an odd statement for them to make since you never know what part of it is 4X more powerful and which parts aren't. That kind of thing will come next year when actual specs are revealed.
 
It'll be a lot more capable for sure but the point is the GPU isn't a 24tf gpu, it's an odd statement for them to make since you never know what part of it is 4X more powerful and which parts aren't. That kind of thing will come next year when actual specs are revealed.

Yea I highly doubt it will be 24TF.

Probably 12-15, they are probably taking into account that Navi's RDNA architecture has an increase of 1.25 in IPC over GCN. If anything the GPU will be bigger than the Navi 5700 XT the are putting out for desktops. Probably 56-64 CU's compared to Navi 5700 XT's 40 CU.
 
Yea I highly doubt it will be 24TF.

Probably 12-15, they are probably taking into account that Navi's RDNA architecture has an increase of 1.25 in IPC over GCN. If anything the GPU will be bigger than the Navi 5700 XT the are putting out for desktops. Probably 56-64 CU's compared to Navi 5700 XT's 40 CU.

I honestly think anything over 12TF for either company is probably unrealistic but we'll see.
 
It'll be a lot more capable for sure but the point is the GPU isn't a 24tf gpu, it's an odd statement for them to make since you never know what part of it is 4X more powerful and which parts aren't. That kind of thing will come next year when actual specs are revealed.

I think he said "from a processing perspective Scarlett is 4 times more powerfull than 1x1"
 
I honestly think anything over 12TF for either company is probably unrealistic but we'll see.

I think it's realistic. Remember these are AMD GPU's so technically, in 2020, 12 TF's really won't that big of a deal. Will it be pricey? Most likely. More than 400 dollars I am willing to bet
 
One narrator states they’re “seeing over 40 times the performance increases “

Yeah this is how BS gets spread, sadly the Xbox UK twitter said the same thing, they omitted the fact that the 40X stat was about loading speeds.
 
I think it's realistic. Remember these are AMD GPU's so technically, in 2020, 12 TF's really won't that big of a deal. Will it be pricey? Most likely. More than 400 dollars I am willing to bet

I hope that's true but I really doubt it, this still has to be a consumer priced product and be able to handle the heating. We are already getting expensive SSD's in the machines plus a good amount of memory and a pretty decent CPU. Just a quick look at Navi GPU's show a 9.75TF is rumored to go for $399 to $499 depending on the wattage, I really don't expect these machines to be much more than 10TF to be honest, I'd rather keep my expectations grounded and be pleasantly surprised than end up being disappointed later. Whatever we get they'll be a huge upgrade over what we have now, I know the mid-gen refreshes have spoiled some of us a bit but we are still playing games that are still being designed to run on 1.3 and 1.8TF machines.
 
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