Halloween Kills **CONTAINS SPOILERS**

I thought the movie was fine. I enjoyed some parts, while other parts, not so much. 2018 was much better. Can't wait for the next one!
 
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I'm glad Halloween Ends will not be the same night, people need to heal up from the events of the first two films.
 
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I’m tired of hearing “day and date streaming kills box office” give people the option to choose where they’d like to watch it.
 
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Feel free to post spoilers without spoiler tags. Will be seeing it this weekend, hopefully.
At least Michael thinks for a minute. People are just crazy. I'm more afraid of them.
 
After watching it a second time and having a few days to think about it, I'd probably rank this towards the bottom of the Halloween sequels, with only one or two others below it. It just doesn't work for me as a story. I don't know what it was like before the reshoots, but part of me thinks I would have preferred the original version. So many plot points and dialogue choices contradict the last movie, and even openly contradict important parts of this movie itself. The characters rarely seemed like real people reacting or speaking in realistic ways.
In the last movie they went out of their way to make it appear as if virtually no one other than Laurie remembered or cared much about Michael Myers 40 years later, in this movie they make it look like the whole city is haunted by him. Bringing back characters from the original, just to make them look like complete idiots, provide them with terrible regurgitated dialogue, and then kill all but one of them off, seemed like a completely pointless waste of time. The random escaped inmate from the first movie literally had more screen time than a good number of these characters combined.

That all said, I see tons of others enjoying it a great deal, which is cool. The soundtrack is one of the best in the franchise. There are some amazing set pieces, and some memorable moments. I love this franchise, still looking forward to see the next one.
 
After watching it a second time and having a few days to think about it, I'd probably rank this towards the bottom of the Halloween sequels, with only one or two others below it. It just doesn't work for me as a story. I don't know what it was like before the reshoots, but part of me thinks I would have preferred the original version. So many plot points and dialogue choices contradict the last movie, and even openly contradict important parts of this movie itself. The characters rarely seemed like real people reacting or speaking in realistic ways.
In the last movie they went out of their way to make it appear as if virtually no one other than Laurie remembered or cared much about Michael Myers 40 years later, in this movie they make it look like the whole city is haunted by him. Bringing back characters from the original, just to make them look like complete idiots, provide them with terrible regurgitated dialogue, and then kill all but one of them off, seemed like a completely pointless waste of time. The random escaped inmate from the first movie literally had more screen time than a good number of these characters combined.

That all said, I see tons of others enjoying it a great deal, which is cool. The soundtrack is one of the best in the franchise. There are some amazing set pieces, and some memorable moments. I love this franchise, still looking forward to see the next one.

My problem was with the crowds and people. Seemed a little forced. I kind of get it, but see what you're saying. I only watched once and it was fine for me. I still prefer the 2018 and the first 2 Halloweens. I also like 4 and 5 when I first saw them. Not sure if they hold up today.
 
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This movie sucked. Apparently Danny Mcbride writes like a 10 year old. This is the first Halloween movie that I almost walked out on. EVILS DIES TONIGHT! 😂
 
One thing that was better in this one than the last one is that every male in it isn't a worthless idiot or womanizer. The boyfriend was actually a good guy in this one, there were flawed women characters as well etc. Halloween 2018 was a good movie but other than the cop every other guy in it was a complete moron or dirt bag. I do think there were good parts in this movie but they made Tommy seem like a guy who was an addict at some point and incapable of reasonable thinking and he deserved what he got lol.
 
It was for sure a social commentary on the current herd/mob mentality affecting pretty much every corner of the earth.
I cringed at it, but I guess that tells you something.
 
It was for sure a social commentary on the current herd/mob mentality affecting pretty much every corner of the earth.
I don't think they need to try to do that in horror movies, I mean entertainment in general should stay away from the real world stuff as much as possible IMO we need some kind of escape. I turn off the news so I can stop seeing that s*** and now it's in my murderous psycho killer movies lol. I hope Jamie Lee Curtis isn't the one pushing for it to be deeper, I know she likes to talk up Laurie when she plays the part even though she's really only doing it for a check. I like her a lot don't get me wrong but I hope she's not pushing them into trying to make some socially relevant horror movie.
 
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I don't think they need to try to do that in horror movies, I mean entertainment in general should stay away from the real world stuff as much as possible IMO we need some kind of escape. I turn off the news so I can stop seeing that s*** and now it's in my murderous psycho killer movies lol. I hope Jamie Lee Curtis isn't the one pushing for it to be deeper, I know she likes to talk up Laurie when she plays the part even though she's really only doing it for a check. I like her a lot don't get me wrong but I hope she's not pushing them into trying to make some socially relevant horror movie.
The 2018 film was an examination of the horror movie genre. It was brilliant filmmaking, with zero unwasted scenes.

The 2021 film tried duplicate that level of expository commentary by focusing on the contemporary mob mentality (which itself is nothing new) towards what society calls a "boogie man," through the lens of a "boogie man" film. Unfortunately, this is far too simple of a concept and doesn't introduce anything really new or interesting (classics from Frankenstein to Hunchback of Notre Dame have visited this concept).

I guess Halloween Kills does establish however that lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place.
 
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The 2018 film was an examination of the horror movie genre. It was brilliant filmmaking, with zero unwasted scenes.

The 2021 film tried duplicate that level of expository commentary by focusing on the contemporary mob mentality (which itself is nothing new) towards what society calls a "boogie man," through the lens of a "boogie man" film. Unfortunately, this is far too simple of a concept and doesn't introduce anything really new or interesting (classics from Frankenstein to Hunchback of Notre Dame have visited this concept).

I guess Halloween Kills does establish however that lightning doesn't strike twice in the same place.
One thing that bothers me is the mob thing took so long and was so lazily done, the whole scene in the hospital seemed like it took forever and it just seemed lazy.
 
One thing that bothers me is the mob thing took so long and was so lazily done, the whole scene in the hospital seemed like it took forever and it just seemed lazy.

I liked the idea of showing the characters from the original Halloween and how they were affected by Michael Meyers. I just didn't like them venturing out like that and like you said, the mob stuff at the hospital.
 
Despite all my complaints and frustrations with Kills, I'll be preordering the 4K UHD, and will be first in line to see Halloween Ends on release day next year.

It's weird to think about how many of the sequels in this franchise that I think are sloppy messes, but I still love it.
 
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I liked the idea of showing the characters from the original Halloween and how they were affected by Michael Meyers. I just didn't like them venturing out like that and like you said, the mob stuff at the hospital.
Yeah the idea was great it was just poorly executed and Tommy really seemed like a junkie to me.
 
Loved it, one of my favorite sequels. So glad we dont get those terrible cult sequels like 5 and 6. They were smart to retcon that s***.
 
Loved it, one of my favorite sequels. So glad we dont get those terrible cult sequels like 5 and 6. They were smart to retcon that s***.
I think I'm in the minority here but I hope when this series is done they go back to them being siblings, removing that here clearly shows how women have to make everything about themselves lol jk. Seriously though she had a trauma she couldn't get over, he didn't give half a s*** about her once he was caught but in her mind they were in this constant battle while he couldn't care less. It's a tragic story for Laurie but I always liked the family angle, not the thorn nonsense but just that Michael was intent on doing it.

I'd rank the series
1 Halloween 1978
2 Halloween 2
3 Halloween 4
4 Halloween 2018
5 Halloween Kills
6 Halloween H20
7 Halloween 3
8 Halloween 5
9 Halloween 6
29 Rob Zombie's Halloween
10235 Rob Zombie's Halloween 2, what a couple of white trash s*** shows Zombie's movies were.
 
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I think I'm in the minority here but I hope when this series is done they go back to them being siblings, removing that here clearly shows how women have to make everything about themselves lol jk. Seriously though she had a trauma she couldn't get over, he didn't give half a s*** about her once he was caught but in her mind they were in this constant battle while he couldn't care less. It's a tragic story for Laurie but I always liked the family angle, not the thorn nonsense but just that Michael was intent on doing it.

I'd rank the series
1 Halloween 1978
2 Halloween 2
3 Halloween 4
4 Halloween 2018
5 Halloween Kills
6 Halloween H20
7 Halloween 3
8 Halloween 5
9 Halloween 6
29 Rob Zombie's Halloween
10235 Rob Zombie's Halloween 2, what a couple of white trash s*** shows Zombie's movies were.

Halloween 4 is one of my favorite sequels. So mad they screwed it up with 5 and 6. After Ends I would love a real sequel to Halloween 4.
 
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1.2 million households is not low, a household isn't an individual person, that's more people than paid to stream black widow. A household is generally considered 2-3 people, if you take the average price for a movie ticket in the US and multiply it by 2.5 million (average number of people in a household x 1.2 million) you get 22.9 million dollars, add that to the $50 million it made at the box office that's equivalent to $72.9 million which is pretty close to what Halloween 2018 did at the box office ($75M) in the US without pandemic restrictions to worry about. You also have to have Peacock premium or premium plus to watch it, you can't watch it on the free tier.
 
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