Introducing Project xCloud (public testing coming in 2019)

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i'm not sure it works quite like that. More like you are streaming video of your X playing on your S..
I'm not so sure about that either. You can already stream Xbox to PC, and I don't think that just streaming video is what they are doing with xCloud.

So allegedly with xCloud, the "streaming" is more efficiently handled by way of letting supporting display devices do some of the light lifting first. At least, this is how I've come to understand it. Also, there is something that's already been available called "Holographic Remoting" that Microsoft does with Hololens, which farms out the heavy lifting to a PC on your WiFi network, giving you much more lifelike holograms and frees up local resources. I am mentioning this because it sounds a lot like the Console Streaming that they announced at E3. I believe that due to the timing of these three different concepts, that they all use the same underlying technology.
 
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So people are looking at this all wrong. You can use your console to host and play any room where you want.

That is one thing that everybody can do unless you have old equipment that needs to be changed.

Now, far as those with the data cap should dump those providers and look elsewhere.
Most of the time in the US you only have one or two choices.
 

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So from the sound of it they aren't talking about this replacing consoles anytime soon, if that's the objective it's likely more than a generation away IMO. They make it sound like currently this is meant to play your console games on mobile devices on the go, they have an xbox one s or whatever at their data center and it's streaming the game from that, it's not even a One X but I guess that makes sense because very few phones have screens higher than quad hd. That being said I don't know who wants to carry a controller around and hook their phone up to it during the day but hey if that's you and this works well for you more power to you.
 

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So from the sound of it they aren't talking about this replacing consoles anytime soon, if that's the objective it's likely more than a generation away IMO. They make it sound like currently this is meant to play your console games on mobile devices on the go, they have an xbox one s or whatever at their data center and it's streaming the game from that, it's not even a One X but I guess that makes sense because very few phones have screens higher than quad hd. That being said I don't know who wants to carry a controller around and hook their phone up to it during the day but hey if that's you and this works well for you more power to you.
It doesn't sound like it from Phil Spencer. It's kind of a relief to not hear them pushing it as a console replacement, honestly.
 

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Microsoft will offer console streaming for free to Xbox One owners
Brian Heater@bheater / 19 hours ago


Microsoft’s Sunday E3 presser was all about the games. In fact, while the company did offer some information about hardware and services, the information all arrived fast and furious at the end of the conference. While it’s probably unsurprising that the company had very little to offer in the way of information about its upcoming 8K console, Project Scarlett, most of us expected Project xCloud to get a lot more face time onstage.

The company powered through a whole lot of information about its upcoming streaming offering like it was going out of style (or, perhaps, like the lights were going out at its own theater). The speed and brevity of it all left a number of audience members confused on the specifics — and caused some to speculate that the service night not be as far along as Microsoft had hoped.

We caught up with a few Microsoft reps on our final day at the show to answer some questions. The company is unsurprisingly still mum on a number of key details around the offering. A couple of key things are worth clarifying, though. For starters console stream is not considered a part of Project xCloud. Rather, the ability to play games on one’s own Xbox One remotely is a separate feature that will be coming to users via a software update.

Asked what advantages console streaming has over the parallel xCloud offering, Microsoft’s answer was simple: it’s free. Fair enough. This serves a two-fold purpose. First, it helps differentiate Microsoft’s streaming offerings from Stadia and, second, it provides another value proposition for the console itself. As to how performance is expected to differ between console streaming and XCloud, it wouldn’t comment.

As I wrote earlier today, the company does see the potential of a large-scale move to the cloud, but anticipates that such a shift is a long ways off. After all, if it didn’t, it likely wouldn’t have announced a new console this week at E3.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/06/12/m...onsole-streaming-for-free-to-xbox-one-owners/
 

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Here I was gonna make a post/poll if there was gonna be another tier that included streaming, glad it may be free to Xbox owners, guess that’ll be one way to get players playing next gen games on current gen systems
 

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Here I was gonna make a post/poll if there was gonna be another tier that included streaming, glad it may be free to Xbox owners, guess that’ll be one way to get players playing next gen games on current gen systems
You know that if good ole "Paywall Mattrick" were still in charge, they for darn sure would have charged for the service. Lol.
 

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Magical is the only way I can describe this. All of the experts said it couldn't be done.
 

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It doesn't sound like it from Phil Spencer. It's kind of a relief to not hear them pushing it as a console replacement, honestly.
Yeah, we'll see how true this is over time but it's nice to not hear him pushing streaming as something amazing that's just around the corner. I liked that he said they aren't planning to not have another console after Scarlett, again we'll see how it goes but it's nice to hear this now at least.
 

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Why would console streaming have ever cost money to begin with? you are streaming from your console to your device.
 

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Yeah, we'll see how true this is over time but it's nice to not hear him pushing streaming as something amazing that's just around the corner. I liked that he said they aren't planning to not have another console after Scarlett, again we'll see how it goes but it's nice to hear this now at least.
he also said it's not to replace your console, it is about choice.
 

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Why would console streaming have ever cost money to begin with? you are streaming from your console to your device.
They’ve been doing that already from either PlayStation/Xbox to PC, but with xcloud it’s via their servers, but again it’s (azure/cloud computing) been in use since halo 5.
 

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They’ve been doing that already from either PlayStation/Xbox to PC, but with xcloud it’s via their servers, but again it’s (azure/cloud computing) been in use since halo 5.
Xcloud and console streaming are two different things, I know Xcloud won't be free but console streaming will be which honestly should have been assumed and hardly seems like it needs a write up. Of course that article calls Scarlett "their upcoming 8K console" so it's likely an Xbox enthusiast writing the article to begin with.
 

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They’ve been doing that already from either PlayStation/Xbox to PC, but with xcloud it’s via their servers, but again it’s (azure/cloud computing) been in use since halo 5.
Azure cloud computing has been in use since Titanfall 1. The AI in TF utilized Azure compute.
 

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Why would console streaming have ever cost money to begin with? you are streaming from your console to your device.
because they have to say the obvious or people will take thing wrong fast. Which most are waiting on to s*** on them on Youtube. Got to get that money somehow
 

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because they have to say the obvious or people will take thing wrong fast. Which most are waiting on to s*** on them on Youtube. Got to get that money somehow
It's just idiotic to assume that they would charge for that, it's a connection from your console to your device so it's not costing them anything beyond the update. People are so damned stupid these days, you have to spell everything out for them or they assume the worst. Of course this article really seems more like it's just a fluff piece, as I said calling scarlett their upcoming 8K machine is silly and only something a fan who wants to hype up a product would write.
 

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It's just idiotic to assume that they would charge for that, it's a connection from your console to your device so it's not costing them anything beyond the update. People are so damned stupid these days, you have to spell everything out for them or they assume the worst. Of course this article really seems more like it's just a fluff piece, as I said calling scarlett their upcoming 8K machine is silly and only something a fan who wants to hype up a product would write.
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The current console streaming is pretty meh so my guess is that the code dealing with streaming will be fully updated such that using it will be better in home and out of the home. The whole streaming thing is great for a secondary way to play on a phone/tablet/PC when you aren't at your console. I don't play mobile games because outside of a few, they are pretty damn crappy and/or follow some sh*t freemium model. Playing console games on my phone is going to be dope. This is Microsoft's way into mobile without building end user hardware...just use the billions of devices that are out there.
 

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https://gamingbolt.com/microsoft-we...at-is-going-to-be-a-much-larger-gaming-market


“We’re investing to empower the world’s two billion gamers to play the games they want with anyone, anywhere, on any device with our new game streaming service, Project xCloud which will enter public trials this fall,” said Nadella. “Xbox Live monthly active users increased to a record 65 million with the highest number of mobile and PC users to date.

“We’re bringing one of the the world’s most popular video games to a new generation of mobile gamers with Minecraft Earth and mixed reality, and we nearly doubled our first-party studios this year to deliver differentiate content for our fast-growing subscription services like Xbox Game Pass, now available both on consoles and PC.”

“I’ll say we are in gaming because of what we believe are going to be the secular changes in the gaming addressable market for us,” Nadella said later on. “We’ve always had a gaming position with console as well as the PC, but going forward we think that any end point can in fact be a great end point for high-end games, which is where our structural position is, and we now have a business model with Game Pass as well as all the supporting mechanisms for game pass like game streaming, we have a social network in Xbox Live that is the best in the business. So I feel we’re well-positioned to what is going to be a much larger market than what was traditionally gaming in spite of all the success we’ve had over the years in gaming.”

“The second point is that it builds on the rest of the cloud investment, so if you think about what we’re doing with xCloud it’s a workload on top of Azure,” he continued. “If you think about capital allocation, what’s happening in the cloud, what’s happening in the edge, how we build the network, how we optimize with streaming… The same infrastructure for example is what Sony has decided to use as well and be on Azure as well as user AI capabilities.”
 

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At this rate, they could hit 100 million active users in like 2 years. Glad to see they continue to grow the Xbox brand.
 

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https://www.windowscentral.com/personal-xcloud-xbox-game-streaming-could-be-around-corner


Project xCloud is on the horizon, and it will come in two separate flavors. One version of xCloud, the one we tried at E3 2019, will allow you to stream from a pool of games directly from Microsoft's servers, anywhere in the world. In order to set up this service, Microsoft will have to enter into discussions with publishers to get their games onto the system. We have reason to believe it will be tied up to the Xbox Game Pass subscription, and most likely feature a similar library of titles.

The other flavor of xCloud, will give you access to all of your personally-owned Xbox games, utilizing your home internet connection and console as a server. Sources familiar with Microsoft's plans recently gave us a glimpse at the set-up wizard for this version of xCloud, which could be right around the corner.