No one is denying or downplaying MS f***ups.
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Fanboys exist on the internet? Thanks for the breaking news.

You guys always use PS fanboys to deflect from MS PR disasters. I know because there are so many of them
Who has ever said MS does no wrong here? The problem is they’ve always been under the microscope no matter what they do. People have wanted to see them fail from the beginning. But hey MS did to themselves hope they close up shop thank god we have PS and Nintendo to save us!
 
Who has ever said MS does no wrong here? The problem is they’ve always been under the microscope no matter what they do. People have wanted to see them fail from the beginning. But hey MS did to themselves hope they close up shop thank god we have PS and Nintendo to save us!
They deserve to be under the microscope and its obvious

The idea of them leaving would be 100% based on their own failures or decisions. Its not going to happen because of fanboys. It will happen because they bought Activision and how many of you guys got upset at any suggestion at the time that it was a bad thing? It was just people out to get MS then too.
 
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Then why is each one reacted with so much hostility. These are bad moves not even the hardest core of Xbox fans can defend.
No doubt they’ve made some bad decisions over the years but they’ve also made some good ones. Some here have enjoyed the XB run and games over the years. Their services like XB Live and GP. So what do you want us to do? Say they just f*** up all the time, just post negativity towards them every day, post every bad social media post we can find, sell our XB’s never purchase anything from them again, what would make you happy?
 
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Then why is each one reacted with so much hostility. These are bad moves not even the hardest core of Xbox fans can defend.
I just posted the replies from that last post you shared. I didn't say a word.
 
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They deserve to be under the microscope and its obvious

The idea of them leaving would be 100% based on their own failures or decisions. Its not going to happen because of fanboys. It will happen because they bought Activision and how many of you guys got upset at any suggestion at the time that it was a bad thing? It was just people out to get MS then too.
You’re full of s*** dude. There has been a bias towards MS since they got into the market. They’ve always been under the microscope because people want to see them fail. Sony and Nintendo can made bad decisions over these decades and price hikes yet they’re never under the microscope. They get a free pass across the internet on a lot of what they do.
 
Fanboys exist on the internet? Thanks for the breaking news.

You guys always use PS fanboys to deflect from MS PR disasters. I know because there are so many of them
PS fanboys do it to themselves. And MS does it to themselves. But with twice as many PS fans as Xbox fans, it's not a wonder that PS fans drown out all good in gaming.
 
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They deserve to be under the microscope and its obvious

The idea of them leaving would be 100% based on their own failures or decisions. Its not going to happen because of fanboys. It will happen because they bought Activision and how many of you guys got upset at any suggestion at the time that it was a bad thing? It was just people out to get MS then too.
What is your priority? Good gaming and good value, or corporate revenues?
 
No doubt they’ve made some bad decisions over the years but they’ve also made some good ones. Some here have enjoyed the XB run and games over the years. Their services like XB Live and GP. So what do you want us to do? Say they just f*** up all the time, just post negativity towards them every day, post every bad social media post we can find, sell our XB’s never purchase anything from them again, what would make you happy?

It's just as okay to call out the good actions and the bad actions. That's how the companies know they need to improve and exactly why MS actually walked back some of their bad practices.

I'm just telling you it's okay to call out they f***ed up just like how it's okay to praise their actions when it's called for. That's it. MS doesn't need you or anyone else to white Knight for them.
 
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It's just as okay to call out the good actions and the bad actions. That's how the companies know they need to improve and exactly why MS actually walked back some of their bad practices.

I'm just telling you it's okay to call out they f***ed up just like how it's okay to praise their actions when it's called for. That's it. MS doesn't need you or anyone else to white Knight for them.
You’re full of s*** a trolling 🤡 you’ve always went out of your way only amplifying the negativity towards MS/XB/GP.
 
Some of you know how to kill the vibe I had with getting the Xbox Ally X. Geez. It's like you froth at the idea of a company messing up. MS doesn't need the help.
 
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You’re full of s*** dude. There has been a bias towards MS since they got into the market. They’ve always been under the microscope because people want to see them fail. Sony and Nintendo can made bad decisions over these decades and price hikes yet they’re never under the microscope. They get a free pass across the internet on a lot of what they do.
I am not saying there is not bias and I am not saying they don't get more heat than Sony and Nintendo but that doesn't mean they don't deserve to be under a microscope. Constant "1 step forward with 2 steps backwards" actions means nobody trusts them and that is their fault.

What is your priority? Good gaming and good value, or corporate revenues?
I don't even know what your point is here. Activision acquisition isn't giving us good value.

I am not asking them to leave. Its not my fault they have made their console look like the absolute worst console you could buy and have too many PR disasters to name.
 
You’re full of s*** a trolling 🤡 you’ve always went out of your way only amplifying the negativity towards MS/XB/GP.

Nope , if it comes then I post it but I don't scavenge for negative news contrary to what some of you like to believe. Not my fault they just keep coming out from their actions. I mean, you can see how the fanbase itself has split itself this gen vs last gen and the 360 gen. That's not any fans fault but the company's.
 
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Some of you know how to kill the vibe I had with getting the Xbox Ally X. Geez. It's like you froth at the idea of a company messing up. MS doesn't need the help.

Hey, you game based on you. No judgment. If you feel these are the best ways to game based on your preference. More power to you.
 
I don't even know what your point is here. Activision acquisition isn't giving us good value.
You are saying that the more games (Activision) that get added to Game Pass doesn't equate to better value for consumers interested in gaming subscriptions?
 
You are saying that the more games (Activision) that get added to Game Pass doesn't equate to better value for consumers interested in gaming subscriptions?
When they just about double the price? I wouldn't.
 
When they just about double the price? I wouldn't.
Well, that does suck for subscribers, no doubt. PS going up 35% this year and this going up 50% isn't good for the consumer. But the question is more about value when you add more games to a subscription, vs. keeping it stale or removing them.
 
Well, that does suck for subscribers, no doubt. PS going up 35% this year and this going up 50% isn't good for the consumer. But the question is more about value when you add more games to a subscription, vs. keeping it stale or removing them.
The question is about value and they doubled the price. Would they have doubled the price if they didn't buy Activision? Probably not so did the consumer actually benefit?
 
Would they have doubled the price if they didn't buy Activision? Probably not
Will we ever know that answer? Unlikely.

You can spin it anyway you like, but the more games added to a service increases the value of the service.
 
I keep thinking they doubled the price but I guess they didn't. Consumers win again.

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Also I am sure we will all praise the added value the next time Sony raises the PS Plus price right?

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If Sony does an increase (just like anything else in life), but they dump a s*** ton of new games in the service, then that is value add.
 
Well, that does suck for subscribers, no doubt. PS going up 35% this year and this going up 50% isn't good for the consumer. But the question is more about value when you add more games to a subscription, vs. keeping it stale or removing them.

I'm sure everyone is going to love Fortnite Crew , Ubisoft+ classics as they force it down their throats.

PS plus premium has over 600 game titles, game pass ultimate has 400, does that mean because the former has 33% more games on the service there's increase value also PS plus premium is much cheaper? 🤔

Also they took away day 1 AND COD for other tiers except PC Gamepass and Ultimate now. So they actually regressed in value for the other two.