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Quite a few games that were meant to be cross-gen got moved to PS5. I remember Zhuge saying last year they have unnaounced games based on franchises but due to the lack of announcements they're either cross-gen or PS5. Sony obviously made the decision to have them moved to PS5.
Nope it was SIE Japan Studio.
Why would Lockhart have a PS4 Pro level GPU when the X already has a better GPU?
I am with you on this.
That makes no sense. Changing the CPU and keep the same GPU for the low level system will make a huge difference for a low level price.
If the Lockhart has a 4TF GPU I would expect this thing to come in around $300. That would make Lockhart a 1080P box not a 1440P box like some of the rumors were stating.
Hopefully Anaconda is a Zero compromise machine that blows the door out of past generational jumps. I expect a minimum of 12 Navi TF's. Anything less would be a failure considering there is also a weaker Lockhart variant. Theoretically Lockhart allows MS to deliver a much better Anaconda at a higher price without slowing next gen adoption rates to a crawl.
Hopefully Anaconda is a Zero compromise machine that blows the door out of past generational jumps. I expect a minimum of 12 Navi TF's. Anything less would be a failure considering there is also a weaker Lockhart variant. Theoretically Lockhart allows MS to deliver a much better Anaconda at a higher price without slowing next gen adoption rates to a crawl.
Yeah a lot of what's floating around doesn't make much sense, maybe it's is a more modern 4 TF GPU to keep the costs down? Something more capable than what's in the Pro but still cheap enough to let them release a console at a much lower price than Scarlett and PS5? if they are cutting down on everything else a GPU probably doesn't need to be as powerful because everything else will just be a bottleneck. That or this could all just be a bunch of BS and we don't know what's really going on lol.
Sorry that's just not based in reality, we know both Scarlett and PS5 are using similar GPU and CPU's and that rumors have been around for a while now that PS5 is the more powerful machine although it's probably by such an insignificant margin that it won't matter. MS can't magically make AMD come up with something that's well beyond what Sony is doing when they are both targeting console level thermals and power consumption. Could they release a PC with a higher end GPU and CPU etc? sure but that's a PC and we are talking consoles where no matter how much money you have you are still bound by certain technical limitations.
what? Everywhere I read and hear the Xbox is the more powerful machine.
Well this is all guess work, however I doubt PS5 ends up being more powerful. Even if it is a small margin I don't see Microsoft taking that blow again this gen. As you said rumors and my money is on the next Xbox being the more powerful of the 2.
That said I think whatever specs Lockhart ends up with won't be too bad. I don't see an Xbox One vs OneX gulf I mean.
Are you reading xbox fan sites? One of the higher up guys at Game Informer said he had heard PS5 was more powerful and a couple of people who supposedly have been verified at resetera (one a former gaming journalist who has seen a next gen game in person) said they were also told by devs that PS5 was more powerful but that both were very close. Either way it's not going to matter, if they are within 10% or so of each other we won't see any real difference on screen.
It's not going to matter either way, they are going to be so close that it's any advantage one has over the other will basically be on paper only. We aren't talking 720p vs 1080p at launch anymore. Also MS can't make sure Scarlett is more powerful than PS5 if they don't know exactly what customizations Sony is doing with their hardware, same goes the other way for Sony. They are both using the same generation of CPU and GPU with the same restrictions for thermals and power consumption so there is only so much either company can do as it is other than getting the best thing from AMD that they can.
Message board posters and the 1 person from Game Informer who was so sure about his sources that he never followed up with an actual article about his “news”? Nevermind this was all the way back at E3 and MS has been ultra secret about specific details since then. There has been nothing credible one way or another about whose box is more powerful so far.
Right, but we know more about the PS5 than Scarlet and this favors Microsoft more than Sony.
Another reason I suspect Scarlet being slightly more powerful is because Microsoft has more experience in the PC hardware field. Gone are the days of the Cell processor and the PowerPC architecture. These consoles are now shipping with what is essentially modified off the shelf PC parts.
Out of the 2 Microsoft has more experience in this field than Sony does.
All guess work though. It is obvious that both consoles will be very similar power wise.
We also know that the HEAD of Xbox said he won't lose the power war this time around. Head of Xbox > a Resetra poster.
Agreed. If Lockhart exists (and it would seem it does), then that would meant they are going all-in on Anaconda.
It’s basically going to be like we have now: An X and an S. It’ll just be cheaper and easier to manufacture and support a Lockhart than it will to make more X’s over the next gen, due to the aging X components.
Most of the rumors I’ve seen place Anaconda at a minimum 10+ TF, but it’s looking like it will also be RDNA 2.0, with hardware supported RT.
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Here we go again with the which one is more powerful shtick.... Gonna be a long f***ing year.
Microsoft is a software company they don't make PC parts they are going to AMD for that, the same thing Sony is doing. Last gen they both did that as well and it was Sony that came out of it with the more powerful hardware. Again it's not going to matter, we aren't at 720p vs 1080p anymore, that's all meaningless at this point.
Why would he write an article about something a year out? Devs have been briefed on what to expect, it's not like they wait for dev kits before they start working on next gen games, they start on a PC and try to make something comparable before the dev kits even arrive. MS hasn't been ultra secret, they spilled the beans at E3 as much as they were willing to and Sony dripped info out before and after and we basically know the same thing about each of them. Even with the "PS5 is more powerful" people they aren't giving us actual specs just that they've heard from the devs that it is more powerful.
MS isn't being more secretive it just took them longer to get their dev kits out, they can spin it all the want just like the "scarlett games are playable on X1" line that people are falling for, that's just a cross gen game if that's the case it's nothing new. An actual game made for Scarlett would only be playable on scarlett, consoles aren't PC's and people need to stop pretending it's the same thing to scale down when you have more specialized processors and aren't doing the bare minimum like devs do for PC games and leave it up to the player to handle the settings.
Well I hope they do well if they do end up PS5 only during the system’s first year.
People aren’t going to upgrade as fast as they did in 2013/2014 thanks to the 4K mid-gen consoles, as well as the fact that the PS4 is still keeping up to speed in modern game performance (outside of a few more recent titles).
Locking a big budget AAA game to only be available on a $500 console with a low userbase just isn’t “$mart” to me these days—especially considering that these upcoming consoles are doing far more in game compatibility.
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No one is “pretending”— the upcoming consoles are PC-like builds which is why they both are going to be backwards compatible out of the gate. It’s not “cross gen” in the way that we saw with PS4 vs. PS3 and Xbox One vs. Xbox 360. The PS3 and 360 didn’t have PC-like architectures. The PS4 and Xbox One DO—hence why the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X were able to be made. Like literally, the mere existence of the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X completely goes against your “they’re not PCs and it’s not scaling!”-points.
Developers are already making their games for multiple platforms/SKUs, and they want to since more players brings in more money—hence the recent trend with crossplay and why Sony had to let go on the restriction they had. The upcoming consoles will be designed in mind with what devs want.
Ecosystems are going to be BIG next gen, and creating complete segments as if we are still in the 2000s is becoming increasingly unsustainable. Too much money coming in from huge userbases thanks to digital purchases to just decide to completely drop all of them to shift focus to an expensive new console that’s going to take years to build up its userbase.
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Quite a few stories have not only said the PS5 was more powerful and had better dev tools.
I didn't say they made hardware...I said they had more experience with it. Inevitably when you develop software you have to have a knowledge of PC parts....which was why the original Xbox was pretty much a PC. This was what I was referring to.
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