MLB The Show going multiplatform

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I've been waiting years for a decent baseball game. My dad will be thrilled. Now we just need someone other than EA making football and hockey...

But no baseball game will ever top this.
 

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Im curious how long it will stay on GP. If I really like it I’ll buy it soon as it leaves GP. Looking forward to checking this out in a couple weeks.
 

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It looks identical to last year's game. Glad it's free.
 

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I wish you could repeatedly bean hitters like in Bases Loaded to have them charge the mound.

I was playing last year's game earlier this week where I beaned every player on the Astros so many times, I was down over 60 runs in the 1st inning and wasn't even ejected. I just kept hearing Matt Vasgersian repeatedly saying "Yeah, you're real tough" or something over and over. So disappointing.
 
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Im curious how long it will stay on GP. If I really like it I’ll buy it soon as it leaves GP. Looking forward to checking this out in a couple weeks.
Does it really matter, especially if they add the follow up next year to GP? And you’ll get a discount on it if you buy it using GP/Gold
 
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Does it really matter, especially if they add the follow up next year to GP? And you’ll get a discount on it if you buy it using GP/Gold
I just don't see people switching ecosystems in large numbers for a single game, it's not like the series is disappearing from PlayStation.
 

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Along with Bloodbourne, The Show was one of two games that made me buy the PS4 despite the fact I lack the time to properly game in one. It was one of maybe 3 or 4 games I planned on purchasing Day 1 this year. The others were Mass Effect trilogy and Battlefield....and I'm hearing one of those will also be Day 1 on Game Pass. Gotten to the point I don't have to buy games any more.
 
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The game only sold a little over a million copies a year it's not a huge title lol I swear the xbox guys are trying to make this a big deal because they haven't gotten anything from MS to play on their new console yet and likely won't until the fall.
 

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The game only sold a little over a million copies a year it's not a huge title lol I swear the xbox guys are trying to make this a big deal because they haven't gotten anything from MS to play on their new console yet and likely won't until the fall.
Baseball doesn't matter in the west outside of amerika anyway, can't name any players... Is baby ruth a baseballer?
 
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The game only sold a little over a million copies a year it's not a huge title lol I swear the xbox guys are trying to make this a big deal because they haven't gotten anything from MS to play on their new console yet and likely won't until the fall.
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I just don't see people switching ecosystems in large numbers for a single game, it's not like the series is disappearing from PlayStation.
I don’t think people will buy into any ecosystem for a baseball game alone.

Will they switch cos of it, who knows? It’s really about getting an enjoyable game into more people’s hands, no?

Do I care, nope.

I’ll probably download, and if I remember, play it before it’s announced removal....probably spend more time in its editor than the actual game lol

Now if the MLB does some big marketing deal/events with Xbox then that’sa whole different story.
 

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The game only sold a little over a million copies a year it's not a huge title lol I swear the xbox guys are trying to make this a big deal because they haven't gotten anything from MS to play on their new console yet and likely won't until the fall.
It's one of two games that made me purchase a PS4 last gen. I get what you're saying. It's not God of War. The significance of this is greater than it's surface level commercial appeal though. I believe it's the second biggest marketing move for Game Pass behind only the Bethesda purchase. It's the equivalent of "this is how we share games" from a mindshare tipping point (IMO). This franchise has been a rock for the PlayStation brand for years and is exclusively on someone else's subscription and cloud service. Will it sell millions and millions of consoles? Not directly. Indirectly? Yes it's shined a bright light on the Game Pass paradigm and even for gamers who aren't baseball fans, it has gained their attention. All this at a time where the console battle is at a standstill. There won't be an abundance of stock until 2022.
 
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It's one of two games that made me purchase a PS4 last gen. I get what you're saying. It's not God of War. The significance of this is greater than it's surface level commercial appeal though. I believe it's the second biggest marketing move for Game Pass behind only the Bethesda purchase. It's the equivalent of "this is how we share games" from a mindshare tipping point (IMO). This franchise has been a rock for the PlayStation brand for years and is exclusively on someone else's subscription and cloud service. Will it sell millions and millions of consoles? Not directly. Indirectly? Yes it's shined a bright light on the Game Pass paradigm and even for gamers who aren't baseball fans, it has gained their attention. All this at a time where the console battle is at a standstill. There won't be an abundance of stock until 2022.
It's not going to be a game many people play though that's the point, this isn't a 10 million seller that's going multiplatform it's a game that most people won't want to play. Baseball games just aren't that popular, if they were Sony wouldn't have been the only one being able to make them all this time. Most of the noise online is either from xbox fans who have nothing better to talk about and are for some reason trying to run victory laps over this while still not having a single AAA exclusive game released on their consoles for over a year and a half, the others making noise are spoiled sony fans who think it's the end of the world to let someone else play a baseball game.

A month or two after the game releases it'll all be forgotten except for Sony taking in a little extra money for developing a game to sell on another platform. I have a feeling there will be a lot of people who try MLB on GP and then never play it again, it'll likely be treated like a demo more than a real game release by many.

I have to say Sony fans are really being overdramatic about this and old games going to PC, it's insane how childish some adults can be. How does it hurt anyone if Days Gone and Horizon are playable on PC? Days Gone is going to be 2 years old by the time it releases on PC, Horizon was over 3 years old.
 
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It's not going to be a game many people play though that's the point, this isn't a 10 million seller that's going multiplatform it's a game that most people won't want to play. Baseball games just aren't that popular, if they were Sony wouldn't have been the only one being able to make them all this time. Most of the noise online is either from xbox fans who have nothing better to talk about and are for some reason trying to run victory laps over this while still not having a single AAA exclusive game released on their consoles for over a year and a half, the others making noise are spoiled sony fans who think it's the end of the world to let someone else play a baseball game.

A month or two after the game releases it'll all be forgotten except for Sony taking in a little extra money for developing a game to sell on another platform. I have a feeling there will be a lot of people who try MLB on GP and then never play it again, it'll likely be treated like a demo more than a real game release by many.

I have to say Sony fans are really being overdramatic about this and old games going to PC, it's insane how childish some adults can be. How does it hurt anyone if Days Gone and Horizon are playable on PC? Days Gone is going to be 2 years old by the time it releases on PC, Horizon was over 3 years old.
I agree Sony fans are being way overdramatic. It's not a huge loss for someone who bought a PS5 hoping it's going to be a lot like the PS4 but better. I disagree that it's not a big deal for Game Pass. A major sport and highly rated AAA game hitting day 1 on the service is pretty significant.

A lot of people will try it and barely play it. It will also gain a new base. That's how things have worked for Game Pass so far. Some people are excited for this game. Others are excited based on what it means for the potential of the service.

As an aside, The Show was in the top 20 of games sold in 2020. Hardly insignificant for a game that launched on only one platform.

 
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MLB The Show based on my interests was a bigger exclusive than Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, or Spider-Man.
Same. My logic is that a baseball game, over time, could result in hundreds of hours of play time. There's really nothing to fill the void.
 

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Baseball doesn't matter in the west outside of amerika anyway, can't name any players... Is baby ruth a baseballer?
Close :) I don't care for baseball either, I had to play little league as a kid and hated every second of it.
 

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I agree Sony fans are being way overdramatic. It's not a huge loss for someone who bought a PS5 hoping it's going to be a lot like the PS4 but better. I disagree that it's not a big deal for Game Pass. A major sport and highly rated AAA game hitting day 1 on the service is pretty significant.

A lot of people will try it and barely play it. It will also gain a new base. That's how things have worked for Game Pass so far. Some people are excited for this game. Others are excited based on what it means for the potential of the service.

As an aside, The Show was in the top 20 of games sold in 2020. Hardly insignificant for a game that launched on only one platform.

Let's keep some perspective, it was number 18 in the US not globally, once you get out of the top 10 a lot of the games are just expansions from older titles like Miles Morales which was number 12 or the updated MK11 which was number 16. If you look at the top 20 as a whole there are 3 other Sony made PlayStation exclusives that sold much better than MLB, TLOU2, Ghost of Tsushima coming in at 6 and 7 as well as Miles Morales again at 12 plus FFVII remake which was only on PlayStation came in at number 10.

There were no MS published games in the top 20 last year so I can see why some xbox fans want to make this a huge deal but it really isn't. Yeah a couple of people here like baseball so they are happy to finally get to play a baseball game on xbox and that's great but it's not going to make a major difference one way or the other. I know some think it's a dunk on Sony but it's not, Sony is getting paid regardless of what happens with the xbox version so it's really just MS trying to cover the fact that they haven't added any new content of their own since the new console launched.
 
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MLB The Show based on my interests was a bigger exclusive than Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, or Spider-Man.

You're probably in the minority for that one.

Despite MLB being a ps exclusive for a while, never had interest in it or played any of its iterations. I'm more of a NBA fan.
 

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Wasn't trying to make my point console wars but I guess everything related to Game Pass indirectly is since it's a stark contrast to Sony's strategy. I think you're going to see this as a significant landmark for Game Pass getting over that mindshare tipping point. You saw how the conversation helped drive Outriders adoption. Expect the same for The Show. Engagement is more important than sales in this context. If 5 million people play The Show this year, the sales won't matter as far as its mindshare boost to Game Pass.
 

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Wasn't trying to make my point console wars but I guess everything related to Game Pass indirectly is since it's a stark contrast to Sony's strategy. I think you're going to see this as a significant landmark for Game Pass getting over that mindshare tipping point. You saw how the conversation helped drive Outriders adoption. Expect the same for The Show. Engagement is more important than sales in this context. If 5 million people play The Show this year, the sales won't matter as far as its mindshare boost to Game Pass.

I am curious. If something is too good to be true, it most likely is. I understand the Netflix way of doing things. They are building assets, BILLIONS worth of assets.

I would love to see, only out of curiosity, an example of how a game like Outriders works on Game Pass. I mean, let's just pretend the game sold 200,000 on day one. 100,000 on Steam, 50,000 on PS5 and 20,000 on Xbox Series X|S. We will guesstimate that the sales ratio for PS5 and Xbox Series X|S is 50/50. So how does Game Pass make up that 30,000 copies?

30,000 x $60 = $1.8 million

Thoughts?
 

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I am curious. If something is too good to be true, it most likely is. I understand the Netflix way of doing things. They are building assets, BILLIONS worth of assets.

I would love to see, only out of curiosity, an example of how a game like Outriders works on Game Pass. I mean, let's just pretend the game sold 200,000 on day one. 100,000 on Steam, 50,000 on PS5 and 20,000 on Xbox Series X|S. We will guesstimate that the sales ratio for PS5 and Xbox Series X|S is 50/50. So how does Game Pass make up that 30,000 copies?

30,000 x $60 = $1.8 million

Thoughts?

First question....do you think Netflix is too good to be true? They spent 17 billion in content last year and have a road map to increase that by more than a billion every single year. In that context, they could have purchased two Bethesda's. Netflix also doesn't have the same amount of monetization opportunities as you get from a gaming sub. A game can provide a lot of monetization beyond the service.

Game Pass increases engagement, awareness and overall mindshare. That leads to more sales currently. At some point the scale of Game Pass users may start to cannibalize traditional sales but to reach that point, it'll be so big that they'll be able to pay 3rd parties even more. In addition, many AAA games today profit more on the stuff that happen after the initial sale. Subscriptions also expand the market. Market isn't fixed. It's expected to grow a lot and subscriptions are one of those reasons.

The data has actually been better than they expected at this point. You're going to see more 3rd parties jumping in as a result. Bottom line is you can't think of the market like this fixed pie. Subscriptions significantly grow the pie in entertainment if they reach scale because they reduce risk for customers, increase demand for creatives, create more predictability and consistency of revenue for the platform holders and touch more customers.