Naughty Dog Co-Founder: “Two Years Ago Microsoft Was Going to Win this Generation..."

I like the way this sounds: Sony adapting to the market and not pushing the market to come.

And that's why Sony isn't in a leadership position nor have they been in a very long time. They follow the chorus instead of innovating. They follow existing trends instead of pushing the envelope. Kutaragi pushed the envelope, but did so entirely in a bubble of his own mind. Cerny has played it completely safe (and boring).
 
And that's why Sony isn't in a leadership position nor have they been in a very long time. They follow the chorus instead of innovating. They follow existing trends instead of pushing the envelope. Kutaragi pushed the envelope, but did so entirely in a bubble of his own mind. Cerny has played it completely safe (and boring).

Sony isn't in a leadership position? Could have fooled me.
 
Sony tried to be a leader last generation when it came to technology, that didn't work out very well. Actually I like the attitude that they have though in trying to give gamers what they want. You think that would be normal, but Microsoft keeps trying to force stuff we never asked for or wanted.
 
I'm still LOL'ing about Microsoft's HD-DVD add-on drive. They tried so hard not to accept Blu-Ray.

Not really, it was just that Sony was part of the Blu-Ray Alliance, and Toshiba courted MS to join in with HD-DVD.

If anything, MS is guilty of not seeing the benefit of larger discs (maybe they didn't like the negative of slooooooooow reads which leads into game installs). They never even entertained the idea of larger discs (HD or BR) for games until this gen.
 
Sony made the almost fatal mistake of of underestimating Microsoft AND getting completely blindsided by that slumbering behemoth, right at home, who flooded the market with adroitly merchandised cheap thrills, and captivated the public at large with motion control. Pride goeth before a fall, and their serene assurance that launching a year later would make no difference was shattered by a tsunami of public backlash, over exorbitant pricing and other policies. Unlike Western corporations, Japanese businesses plan way ahead and are straightjacketed by entrenched and intransigent bureaucracy, that makes turning on a dime and doing a 180, difficult or impossible. Only now are they recovering their bearings and charting a more realistic course. In the meantime, the corporation as a whole has fallen on very lean times, and is a shadow of it's former self. Junk debt status is rather ignominious for an erstwhile titan of industry.
 
Your definition of innovation is too narrow.
Not trying to start an argument, but I'm actually interested in how you think Sony is innovating? I really can't think of any and I'm actually trying to. Maybe the indie scene? I'd hardly count that as innovation though. The touchpad on the controller I guess could be seen as innovation, so I'll give Sony that. But what else?
 
Not trying to start an argument, but I'm actually interested in how you think Sony is innovating? I really can't think of any and I'm actually trying to. Maybe the indie scene? I'd hardly count that as innovation though. The touchpad on the controller I guess could be seen as innovation, so I'll give Sony that. But what else?
Just let go of you doubts and BELIEVE. Look, I'll give you your on personal mantra to chant while believing: Owa Tygoo Siamm. Just say it, over and over again. It's quite soothing.
 
They couldn't have. The first consumer HD-DVD players didn't hit retail until mid-April of 2006. Just about a full six months after the launch of the 360. If they included one in the 360, it would have driven the cost of the console up considerably. That's no risk to take with an unproven format. Sony knew they had a winner with blu-ray, which is why they tossed one in the PS3. Sure they were selling the console at a loss for a while, but that's how it usually starts at the beginning of a console cycle.

I don't agree that Sony "knew they had a winner with blu-ray".... When blu-ray first came out it was expensive, slow to load, and showed ZERO performance over HD-DVD. MS would have taken a loss had they included an internal HD-DVD drive with the 360, but just like Sony, they would have made it back over time....I think if they were really serious about HD-DVD, they would have included it...and it would have possibly put HD-DVD ahead of Blu-ray in the format war.
 
I think if they were really serious about HD-DVD, they would have included it...and it would have possibly put HD-DVD ahead of Blu-ray in the format war.

I think you're wrong on that one simply because Blu-Ray is a much more efficient, elegant solution to data storage than HD-DVD was. Besides, Sony was trying to develop a standard format of their own for years and years. It had to happen for them sooner or later.
 
Just let go of you doubts and BELIEVE. Look, I'll give you your on personal mantra to chant while believing: Owa Tygoo Siamm. Just say it, over and over again. It's quite soothing.
Thank you. That helps a lot, and you're right it is quite soothing!
 
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You don't have to like it, just have to admit that it kicked the Triple and 360's collective butts.

Me, never said I didn't like it, I could care less that the Wii owned the 360/PS3 this gen. True hardcores would own all 3 systems, "hardcores" like you said are just system zealots, blind allegiance to their system of choice...
 
They all won, Nintendo by sales, Sony established Blu-Ray in the format wars and MS got a strong foothold in the living room. Next gen is a different kettle of fish. Whoever has the strongest connected experiences and eco-system will "win" next gen. Could be neither of the three, but if I was a betting man, I'll place my money on the horse from Redmond.
That's pretty much true, but it's worth noting where those victories left them. Nintendo crushed in terms of sales last gen, now they can't seem to sell ice in the Sahara this time around. Sony established Blu-ray, just as the market was inexorably moving away from physical media. MS established a foothold in the living room, which they now seem to be ready to exploit even further this coming gen with the improved Kinect.

So yes, they all won, but I think it's safe to say that some companies are in a better position for the future than others.
 
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I like the way this sounds: Sony adapting to the market and not pushing the market to come.
You can call it "pushing" if you want, but really MS was just adapting to the future rather than the present. That's the difference between what Kutaragi was doing with the PS3 and what MS was trying to do with the XO.
 
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I think you're wrong on that one simply because Blu-Ray is a much more efficient, elegant solution to data storage than HD-DVD was. Besides, Sony was trying to develop a standard format of their own for years and years. It had to happen for them sooner or later.

Outside of having more space, how was it "more efficient and elegant"?
 
I imagine he's referring to having more data per layer.

I generally agree with what Naughty Dog said here.. Sony's massive PR and technical turnaround and "gamer good will" campaign has been surprising and almost shocking.
 
Just thought of something, shouldn't this technically be in the PS section? Will platform specific threads talking about their competition be a thread appropriate for the multiplat section? I only ask just to keep it in the back of my head if I or anyone else want to create a thread with proper categorization.
 
I imagine he's referring to having more data per layer.

I generally agree with what Naughty Dog said here.. Sony's massive PR and technical turnaround and "gamer good will" campaign has been surprising and almost shocking.
Slightly nauseating, even. :confused:
 
Slightly nauseating, even. :confused:

lol.. some of the reactions and their actual PR stuff is nauseating.

Anyone who thinks they are actually kind-hearted gentleman doing it out of the goodness of their heart or "caring" for this or that is pretty naive. These are board room decisions based on what they think will sell them the most consoles.
 
lol.. some of the reactions and their actual PR stuff is nauseating.

Anyone who thinks they are actually kind-hearted gentleman doing it out of the goodness of their heart or "caring" for this or that is pretty naive. These are board room decisions based on what they think will sell them the most consoles.
Yes that was obvious when their obsequious scraping and bowing, and mock humility transitioned so quickly back to their usual arrogant smugness.