New Sony terms of service. Get your tinfoil ready?
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Who doesn't think ALL of these companies aren't watching/monitoring what we do!?
At least we aren't forced to use a camera.....oops! that's right that was one of MS's 180's
With all the exciting news coming out today about the PS4, it figure this would be the thread that gains traction on this site. Pathetic.
You're gonna pull this card after all of the nonsense people posted about Kinect and spying? This came out today with Sony updating their ToS.
Yeah, it's quite lame to be honest. Show me where it says I will be monitored for ad tailoring or where Sony has signed on with PRISM and then I will care. This is just like every other TOS of every other online service. There is a pretty big PS event going on right now, where is that news?
Yeah, those size 720's fit a bit too tight on my 1080's.The shoe on the other foot is always an uncomfortable fit.
I'm not at the show. The show is happening now. What would you like me to report? You have thread making ability right?
And anybody that claims this is not a big deal but called MS on it is a hypocrite.
hmm actually the terms are new
The previous version of the document published in July did not include the newly introduced terms. A more generalized version of the Software Usage Terms which covers all PlayStation devices, has been published to the UK PlayStation website.
It is worth noting that an older, abridged version of those terms on the UK site already included a clause preventing the reselling of games for the PS3, but the newer terms have now expanded this to encompass the PS4 too, apparently contradicting Sony's claims that it would not prevent users from selling their games on after use. We have contacted Sony to request clarification and will update this article if and when we hear back from them.
Gamers who had been upset with Microsoft's DRM policies voiced support for Sony's PlayStation 4 after the E3 announcement which led to Microsoft reversing on some of their policies.
http://www.neowin.net/news/sony-to-...aystation-games-after-initially-supporting-it
Update: Sony has responded to our request for comment with this statement:
As SCE announced at E3, consumers will be able to sell or share their PS4 disc products."
Unfortunately, while this statement will reassure PS4 buyers who may want to sell their "disc products" further down the line, it does nothing to clarify the changes that Sony made to its terms of service, which introduced new clauses forbidding certain actions - including the sale of "disc-based software" - nor does it address how these changes will actually affect users.
frankly I personally thought Sony was planning on the same practices as Microsoft, but changed when they saw the reaction to Microsoft
but this is my opinion
The previous version of the document published in July did not include the newly introduced terms. A more generalized version of the Software Usage Terms which covers all PlayStation devices, has been published to the UK PlayStation website.
It is worth noting that an older, abridged version of those terms on the UK site already included a clause preventing the reselling of games for the PS3, but the newer terms have now expanded this to encompass the PS4 too, apparently contradicting Sony's claims that it would not prevent users from selling their games on after use. We have contacted Sony to request clarification and will update this article if and when we hear back from them.
Gamers who had been upset with Microsoft's DRM policies voiced support for Sony's PlayStation 4 after the E3 announcement which led to Microsoft reversing on some of their policies.
http://www.neowin.net/news/sony-to-...aystation-games-after-initially-supporting-it
Update: Sony has responded to our request for comment with this statement:
As SCE announced at E3, consumers will be able to sell or share their PS4 disc products."
Unfortunately, while this statement will reassure PS4 buyers who may want to sell their "disc products" further down the line, it does nothing to clarify the changes that Sony made to its terms of service, which introduced new clauses forbidding certain actions - including the sale of "disc-based software" - nor does it address how these changes will actually affect users.
frankly I personally thought Sony was planning on the same practices as Microsoft, but changed when they saw the reaction to Microsoft
but this is my opinion
this is just an fyi for those that Sony is the greatest on earth
and Microsoft is evil.. sonys past is really not good
which is why I always hesitated to buy their products
but I do own a ps3, will eventually get a ps4
Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Sony BMG CD copy protection rootkit scandal of 2005–2007 concerns copy protection measures implemented by Sony BMG on about 22 million CDs. When inserted into a computer, the CDs installed one of two pieces of software which provided a form of digital rights management (DRM) by modifying the operating system to interfere with CD copying. Both programs could not be easily uninstalled, and they unintentionally created vulnerabilities that were exploited by unrelated malware.
One of the programs installed even if the user refused its EULA, and it "phoned home" with reports on the user's private listening habits; the other was not mentioned in the EULA at all, contained code from several pieces of open-source software in an apparent infringement of copyright, and configured the operating system to hide the software's existence, leading to both programs being characterized as rootkits.
Sony BMG initially denied that the rootkits were harmful. It then released, for one of the programs, an "uninstaller" that only un-hid the program, installed additional software which could not be easily removed, collected an email address from the user, and introduced further security vulnerabilities.
Following public scorn, government investigations and class-action lawsuits in 2005 and 2006, Sony BMG partially addressed the scandal with consumer settlements, a recall of about 10% of the affected CDs, and the suspension of CD copy protection efforts in early 2007.
their answer to this?
Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
sony was sued among other things
it was a DRM issue among other things, and this was only one of the scandals
so please.. remember
neither company is the bad guy, nor the good guy
and at least Microsoft was open about it
and do not assume that sony is doing this for the gamers
and Microsoft is evil.. sonys past is really not good
which is why I always hesitated to buy their products
but I do own a ps3, will eventually get a ps4
Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Sony BMG CD copy protection rootkit scandal of 2005–2007 concerns copy protection measures implemented by Sony BMG on about 22 million CDs. When inserted into a computer, the CDs installed one of two pieces of software which provided a form of digital rights management (DRM) by modifying the operating system to interfere with CD copying. Both programs could not be easily uninstalled, and they unintentionally created vulnerabilities that were exploited by unrelated malware.
One of the programs installed even if the user refused its EULA, and it "phoned home" with reports on the user's private listening habits; the other was not mentioned in the EULA at all, contained code from several pieces of open-source software in an apparent infringement of copyright, and configured the operating system to hide the software's existence, leading to both programs being characterized as rootkits.
Sony BMG initially denied that the rootkits were harmful. It then released, for one of the programs, an "uninstaller" that only un-hid the program, installed additional software which could not be easily removed, collected an email address from the user, and introduced further security vulnerabilities.
Following public scorn, government investigations and class-action lawsuits in 2005 and 2006, Sony BMG partially addressed the scandal with consumer settlements, a recall of about 10% of the affected CDs, and the suspension of CD copy protection efforts in early 2007.
their answer to this?
Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
sony was sued among other things
it was a DRM issue among other things, and this was only one of the scandals
so please.. remember
neither company is the bad guy, nor the good guy
and at least Microsoft was open about it
and do not assume that sony is doing this for the gamers
How quickly we conveniently forget that all of Kinect's features will be able to be turned off. That was a common theme for people looking to attack MS and the Xbox One. People seem to always ignore that you were able to turn everything off. And having to check in your console has absolutely nothing to do with privacy concerns.
/HurrSonyGoinBackOnUsedGames:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...traNews+(Gamasutra+News)#.UoH0vwbsMhw.twitter
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...traNews+(Gamasutra+News)#.UoH0vwbsMhw.twitter
Yes, the legal people come up with these things all the time because when you click accept it is binding which means that Sony and others can go after you when selling you disc based games. What an idiotic statement from them.
Just because I am holding a gun at you that is cocked and ready to fire with my finger on the trigger does not mean I have any intention of harming or threatening you. Yes, you shouldn't have even known I had the gun so this might be a problem...
Yup they're doomed. They'll go after pirates that rip the code off the disks, and distibute the game on the internet.
Shame on Sony for keeping people from sharing their games!
Shame on Sony for keeping people from sharing their games!
lol at the hypocrisy in this thread.. You could cut it with a butter knife!
Sorry Sony guy's I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it turns out that Sony is in fact not perfect.
Sorry Sony guy's I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it turns out that Sony is in fact not perfect.
Turns out though that 720 is in fact >>>>>> than 1080.So much butthurt over the 720p's around here got cats grasping at straws.
unionvgf.com/index.php?threads/polygon-call-of-duty-ghosts-xbox-one-review-update-say-x1-ps4-version.1601
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