Ninja Leaves Twitch For Mixer - What Do Streamers Mean To You?

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Meh, never understood the concept, maybe I'm just old idk
I do watch YouTube videos of games but mostly to see if game is good.
Good for ninja guy though, surely a huge money deal, ms prob get it's money's worth too?
 

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Meh, never understood the concept, maybe I'm just old idk
I do watch YouTube videos of games but mostly to see if game is good.
Good for ninja guy though, surely a huge money deal, ms prob get it's money's worth too?
If it gets them headlines. Its actually one of the top stories on espn.com for some reason so so far so good I guess.
 

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Meh, never understood the concept, maybe I'm just old idk
I do watch YouTube videos of games but mostly to see if game is good.
Good for ninja guy though, surely a huge money deal, ms prob get it's money's worth too?
Only watch the GiantBomb lot now.

The YouTube lot who make videos about everything without saying anything get on my nerves.

Only use mixer at E3. Rest of the year I have 0 interest in any of them.
 

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I don’t get why people watch people play games.

To get a look at a game ok, anything beyond that a waste of time.
 

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I've only used Mixer to see hot gamer chicks. The few I've found were ether so annoying or retarded that I turned them off after a few minutes.
 

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I don’t get why people watch people play games.

To get a look at a game ok, anything beyond that a waste of time.

Kinda agree with ya...kids do love watching let’s play (cartoons are no longer on standard channels), mostly for their “perceived personalities”. I guess the closest thing it would equate to is if you put a cam on a coach and hear them bark out plays while staying topical or replying to fans who couch coach
 

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No idea who Ninja is.
 

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I don’t get why people watch people play games.

To get a look at a game ok, anything beyond that a waste of time.
I know, if I did it, I'd be doing it for competitive games to try to improve my play. You can see how the top players use the maps to their advantage in FPSs, see how they use certain fighters in fighting games, etc. I don't have time to do that though. I watch once in a long while at work when it fancy's me. I haven't yet watched any live high level competition.
 

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I assume most of it is younger kids. Supposedly a lot of the big Destiny players stream every day. Not sure who watches all that, as most of us have to go to work.
 

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I assume most of it is younger kids. Supposedly a lot of the big Destiny players stream every day. Not sure who watches all that, as most of us have to go to work.
Ninja's audience is mostly young kids but its not like that for everyone.
 

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Not a stream watcher, but know plenty of people who are. IDK, watching people play video games has never been my thing, but if you can profit off it then I say go for it. Dude probably made 7 figures off this deal alone, and apparently twitch has been kind of a pain to deal with recently, so more competition is a good thing.
 

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Not a stream watcher, but know plenty of people who are. IDK, watching people play video games has never been my thing, but if you can profit off it then I say go for it. Dude probably made 7 figures off this deal alone, and apparently twitch has been kind of a pain to deal with recently, so more competition is a good thing.
It is actually great way to get better at games. Especially more complex competitive games like PUBG or sim racers or FIFa.

Also a great way to see if a game is good or not.
 

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Not a stream watcher, but know plenty of people who are. IDK, watching people play video games has never been my thing, but if you can profit off it then I say go for it. Dude probably made 7 figures off this deal alone, and apparently twitch has been kind of a pain to deal with recently, so more competition is a good thing.
20+ million easy I would say
 

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It is actually great way to get better at games. Especially more complex competitive games like PUBG or sim racers or FIFa.

Also a great way to see if a game is good or not.
I’ve watched plenty of videos for info but not more than a few minutes of someone streaming a game unless its some sort of premier for something new. However, there are some guys who I find entertaining and watch even if I’m not even playing or own the game shown in the video. Destiny players like Datto and Mtashed are guys who give good info while remaining fun to watch. The always entertaining Mr. Fruit plays a ton of different games and always makes me laugh and there is this awesome guy named SuperGT who uploads awesome races of Gran Turismo Sport and Forza who also races in real life. I don’t even own those sim racers and yet I’ll watch a 20min race because his commentary and race gameplay is so much fun to watch.
 

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I’ve watched plenty of videos for info but not more than a few minutes of someone streaming a game unless its some sort of premier for something new. However, there are some guys who I find entertaining and watch even if I’m not even playing or own the game shown in the video. Destiny players like Datto and Mtashed are guys who give good info while remaining fun to watch. The always entertaining Mr. Fruit plays a ton of different games and always makes me laugh and there is this awesome guy named SuperGT who uploads awesome races of Gran Turismo Sport and Forza who also races in real life. I don’t even own those sim racers and yet I’ll watch a 20min race because his commentary and race gameplay is so much fun to watch.
Not gunha get much info from a few minutes, though.

The great tging about streams for a consumer is it is just somebody playing a game. Youtube videos can be misleading cause you cut and edit and ultimately show only what you want to show, same as the advertisement trailers.

A stream is just a gamer playing a game, flaws and all. A far better yard stick for judging a game than a video/written review or marketing videos.
 

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I don't know if its actually 50 million but I could believe it.

 

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Not gunha get much info from a few minutes, though.

The great tging about streams for a consumer is it is just somebody playing a game. Youtube videos can be misleading cause you cut and edit and ultimately show only what you want to show, same as the advertisement trailers.

A stream is just a gamer playing a game, flaws and all. A far better yard stick for judging a game than a video/written review or marketing videos.
Well, I guess it depends on the stream because most of those I've seen are just a gamer playing while talking about random stuff with no real game info beyond what's on screen. A dedicated video from a competent creator will touch on the details of the game while showing examples on-screen and give a detailed explanation of how it all works. I play mostly single player games and I find edited content creator videos more useful than streamers who are just playing and chatting with their community. But perhaps I just haven't found the right streamer, not that I've been looking.
 

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Well, I guess it depends on the stream because most of those I've seen are just a gamer playing while talking about random stuff with no real game info beyond what's on screen. A dedicated video from a competent creator will touch on the details of the game while showing examples on-screen and give a detailed explanation of how it all works. I play mostly single player games and I find edited content creator videos more useful than streamers who are just playing and chatting with their community. But perhaps I just haven't found the right streamer, not that I've been looking.
I'm not saying you only watch a stream. You watch the stream to see what the game is actually like. The whole idea here is to get a complete picture. Just doing one thing only tives a piece of that picture. So, you do it all. You read the review, you watch the youtube lverview video, you watch the game being played in real time.

But to be fair, for singleplayer games it can be tough. On the one hand you want to see what it is actually like. But on the other hand you don't want the story spoilt.
 

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I like to watch people who are either entertaining, so it's no different than watching a show or movie, or someone that is a pro at a game. For example, I like fighting games but terrible at it. I love watching Maximilian Dood play them though.
 

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I don’t get streaming popularity but I’m not going to judge it. I sometimes have weird taste in games or entertainment. I think streaming is probably more socially acceptable than Hedon’s taste in porn.

About Ninja...think of this as new age advertising. What this shows me is Microsoft is increasing yet transitioning their advertising budget. This will drive people to Mixer where Microsoft can advertise Xbox, Game Pass and Xcloud...and likely provide integration between Mixer and Xcloud in the future. No doubt they’ll allow people to jump into games that they’re watching on Mixer instantaneously.

I don’t care about Ninja streaming but I do like how aggressive Microsoft is getting with gaming. Further evidence that Nadella and Amy Hood are opening up the pocket book far more than most are anticipating. They’re all in when it comes to investing in gaming.
 

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Only time I watch a stream is if it's a preview of a game that's not out yet, once a game is released I have no desire to watch someone else play it when I could be doing it myself.
 

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I don't know if its actually 50 million but I could believe it.

It's insane what people get paid to do something that adds no value to society, there are people trying to cure cancer that make nothing compared to this.
 

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About Ninja...think of this as new age advertising. What this shows me is Microsoft is increasing yet transitioning their advertising budget. This will drive people to Mixer where Microsoft can advertise Xbox, Game Pass and Xcloud...and likely provide integration between Mixer and Xcloud in the future. No doubt they’ll allow people to jump into games that they’re watching on Mixer instantaneously.
Yep, these people are not only big for marketing, it is almost a requirement now. Video game publishers are regularly inviting them to try their games out before launch, usually paying their entire trip. Some of the popular folks in the Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield communities are trying out the new COD game.

Suddenly I see a guy who I follow for Battlefield talking about the new COD game. Honestly it got me interested in the game.

EA spends a lot of money on "EA Influencers". https://venturebeat.com/2017/07/27/electronic-arts-is-spending-even-more-on-influencers/
 

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It's insane what people get paid to do something that adds no value to society, there are people trying to cure cancer that make nothing compared to this.

The same could go for those trying to cure anything? Those individuals are essentially a developer and the ones funding it are the publishers taking in the fruits of their labor, at an exponentially live or die price (at least here in the states)
 

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The same could go for those trying to cure anything? Those individuals are essentially a developer and the ones funding it are the publishers taking in the fruits of their labor, at an exponentially live or die price (at least here in the states)
It's just sad to see things like this, I mean if someone is dumb enough to pay him that much I don't blame him for taking it but our values as a society are totally screwed up. I know they see it as an investment and believe he'll bring them more money somehow than they are paying him but it still just seems so wrong.