Ninja Leaves Twitch For Mixer - What Do Streamers Mean To You?

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It's just sad to see things like this, I mean if someone is dumb enough to pay him that much I don't blame him for taking it but our values as a society are totally screwed up. I know they see it as an investment and believe he'll bring them more money somehow than they are paying him but it still just seems so wrong.
The thing that baffles me is viewers who will flock to donate money to him. I can understand doing so to someone on Twitch or wherever if you like their content and you want them to keep making it but when they are making millions? I don't get it.
 

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It's insane what people get paid to do something that adds no value to society, there are people trying to cure cancer that make nothing compared to this.
Because that is the wrong way to look at it. You say no value to society, but a chunk lf society see it valuable enough to pay a sub to these folks just so they can do what they do.

If entertainment isn't valuable to society then why have I not seen you say this about movies and actors?
 

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I think younger people see gaming as much more of a social thing than us "more experienced" folks do. I know personally I'm fine leaving my mic on mute 99% of the time. I game to game, not to chat. If friends happen to be on, that's cool but it isn't necessary for me.

There's also a different dynamic with famous people. Before the internet, we'd simply understand that the likelihood of us meeting someone famous was really low. You could write someone famous a letter (lol) and maybe someone in their PR team would send you a form letter back. Today, people have been brought up with "comment boxes" on everything. The people on the evening news are putting up their twitter handle now. Personally, I'd never even think of tweeting at the person doing the evening news. Why would I? Younger people though I think don't have that mentality baked in.
 

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Because that is the wrong way to look at it. You say no value to society, but a chunk lf society see it valuable enough to pay a sub to these folks just so they can do what they do.

If entertainment isn't valuable to society then why have I not seen you say this about movies and actors?
They are all over paid, someone making $20 million for 3 months of work is insane and I said that when Jim Carrey was the first actor to make that. Entertainment is fine, being paid well for being an entertainer is fine but the money these people make is just hard to justify. The President of the United States makes $400k a year, the average doctor makes under $300k(varies widely depending on specialty) average cancer researcher under $60k, the average teacher makes under $60k yet many entertainers make more in a few months than any of these people will earn in several lifetimes? it just doesn't make sense. I know how they "justify" it because it's based on the money they are bringing in but it still just seems wrong.
 

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The thing that baffles me is viewers who will flock to donate money to him. I can understand doing so to someone on Twitch or wherever if you like their content and you want them to keep making it but when they are making millions? I don't get it.
If he's asking people to donate to him while he's making that much he's a piece of s*** unless he's donating a ton of money to charity himself. So many youtubers ask people to donate to their patreon. I don't mind if they actually create content but there are people who strictly do reactions that ask for money, they don't make any skits, vlogs, short films or anything original all they do is short reactions and people will pay them enough that they can buy a new house etc it's crazy. I do wonder what these people will do once their audience leaves them though
 

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He may be the face of Xbox...


https://www.polygon.com/2019/8/2/20751601/ninja-mixer-twitch-microsoft-halo-infinite-xbox-scarlett


Mixer is owned by Microsoft, which also owns Halo. And we know that Microsoft, alongside Sony, is gearing up for the new generation of consoles. Halo Infinite is going to be a launch game for the next Xbox, currently known by its codename, Project Scarlett. What better way to market the proceedings than to have Blevins by your side? I wouldn’t be surprised if Blevins ends up being the name and face of Xbox, and by extension Halo, this time next year.

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Blevins has become an advertising darling over the last year, with brands such as Samsung tapping him to help promote the Galaxy Note 9. The phone apparently sold well, although it’s hard to say how much of a part Blevins played. Yes, the man has huge reach. But the phone also came packaged with a coveted Fortnite skin that you can’t get anywhere else, and it was released when Fortnite was still taking the world by storm. Regardless, we’re already starting to see the effects of Ninja’s transition. Anecdotally, I saw a good number of people on social media either starting up Mixer accounts, or starting to check out the service, yesterday. Ninja says he’s attracted 100,000 subscribers thus far, which is probably helped by the fact that Mixer is giving away the first month of subscriptions. And as of this morning, Mixer is the most popular thing on the App Store.
 
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It's just sad to see things like this, I mean if someone is dumb enough to pay him that much I don't blame him for taking it but our values as a society are totally screwed up. I know they see it as an investment and believe he'll bring them more money somehow than they are paying him but it still just seems so wrong.
Capitalism has nothing to do with value to society. Has to do with supply and demand. Microsoft isn’t giving someone trying to cure cancer 50 million because they don't have potential to help Microsoft make billions in return. By law, that’s how publicly traded companies have to operate. People been getting 200 million to play games (professional sports) for many years. People getting that to act. It’s funny seeing streaming being some people’s breaking point. Ninja, while not my thing, has more talent than Kim Kardashian.
 

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Capitalism has nothing to do with value to society. Has to do with supply and demand. Microsoft isn’t giving someone trying to cure cancer 50 million because they don't have potential to help Microsoft make billions in return. By law, that’s how publicly traded companies have to operate. People been getting 200 million to play games (professional sports) for many years. People getting that to act. It’s funny seeing streaming being some people’s breaking point. Ninja, while not my thing, has more talent than Kim Kardashian.
Not my breaking point, I broke a long time ago this is just what's being discussed in this thread. Actors and athletes have been over paid for a LOOOONG time this streaming this is new in comparison but even a million a year just because people watch you play a game is insane.
 

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Capitalism has nothing to do with value to society. Has to do with supply and demand. Microsoft isn’t giving someone trying to cure cancer 50 million because they don't have potential to help Microsoft make billions in return. By law, that’s how publicly traded companies have to operate. People been getting 200 million to play games (professional sports) for many years. People getting that to act. It’s funny seeing streaming being some people’s breaking point. Ninja, while not my thing, has more talent than Kim Kardashian.

Try again

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/09/20/microsoft-will-solve-cancer-within-10-years-by-reprogramming-dis/
 
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You know they still use kinect and it's tech in hospitals
 

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They are all over paid, someone making $20 million for 3 months of work is insane and I said that when Jim Carrey was the first actor to make that. Entertainment is fine, being paid well for being an entertainer is fine but the money these people make is just hard to justify. The President of the United States makes $400k a year, the average doctor makes under $300k(varies widely depending on specialty) average cancer researcher under $60k, the average teacher makes under $60k yet many entertainers make more in a few months than any of these people will earn in several lifetimes? it just doesn't make sense. I know how they "justify" it because it's based on the money they are bringing in but it still just seems wrong.
But you're comparing very different things and saying something is insane relative to something that isn't ccomparable. A typical 9 to 5 job where the individual makes no money isn't comparable to a actor who helps generate hundreds of millions for a business.
 

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Regardless, he is what people follow and also extremely popular. He also had other streamers making a move to MIXER and if this trend follows it can create a competition to the streamers them self.

I stream on all platforms and I can tell you Mixer is the better service over the others I have used by a long shot.
 

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Regardless, he is what people follow and also extremely popular. He also had other streamers making a move to MIXER and if this trend follows it can create a competition to the streamers them self.

I stream on all platforms and I can tell you Mixer is the better service over the others I have used by a long shot.
I can't see other big streamers making the move, though.. Way too big of a risk for anybody pulling in decent sub numbers.
 

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There are some good streaming content out there. It's not just about the game, but some of the commentary is quite funny.

There are some games that I don't play that I don't mind someone else walking through.

I think MS is thinking of the future, Halo and picked Ninja up because that's what he'll be playing come next year.
 

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Well it's done something, top downloaded app on iOS chart and over half a million subs which is more than he ever had on twitch
 

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Well it's done something, top downloaded app on iOS chart and over half a million subs which is more than he ever had on twitch

Saw this on twitter, not that it matters all that much, can't say I agree with his tone.
 

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He seems very bitter towards xbox looking at tweet feed
 
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You don't see the countless negative xbox related retweets including clickbait nonsense like MS spending the budgets for Ryse 2, Alan Wake 2 and Quantum Break 2 for this? Despite also reminding xbox gamers that Mixer and Xbox are 2 very separate parts of MS in another.
 

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Yep.

And people would be pretty worried if 3 games had a combined budget of $50m