Nvidia VP on Next-Gen Consoles: “There’s no way a 200W Xbox is going to beat a 1,000W PC”

Well all reports/statements indicate nVidia didn't want to be involved this generation.

What exactly are they butthurt about?

What they are saying/displaying is true... what they are saying/displaying has to do with the products they sell...

They are showing a product they were involved with on that same slide being easily surpassed by PC cards too.

If AMD's profit margins are low for the next gen consoles.. which they almost certainly are.. all they've done is release a low-profit competitor to their higher profit margin PC cards. Which is exactly the business nVidia DECIDED to no longer be involved with.

Because NVIDIA is totally against anything greatly auspicious for their business. NVIDIA is not just saying they didn't want any involvement to save face after losing all three console platforms to their competitor. Right? You are just denying that NVIDIA is just singing a different tune because they lost all ground in the console market. It does not matter if what NVIDIA is saying is the truth. NVIDIA is only speaking this truth because they are sour.
 
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Because NVIDIA is totally against anything greatly auspicious for their business. NVIDIA is not just saying they didn't want any involvement to save face after losing all three console platforms to their competitor. Right? You are just denying that NVIDIA is just singing a different tune because they lost all ground in the console market. It does not matter if what NVIDIA is saying is the truth. NVIDIA is only speaking this truth because they are sour.

Whose the sour one?

Good lord. I'm not into gossiping snarky BS about companies decisions.

The point is that nVidia has made statements.. had financial disclosures, etc. that indicate the console business really wasn't working out for them that well financially.

They reportedly made $500 million in 7 years on the PS3 (from pre-production to about 50 million sales):

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible

That's $10 a pop. For a product that the company had to focus a lot of energy on, and for a product that gives a lot of people a reason not to plunk money down on a PC that might make nVidia a significantly higher margin. Publicly traded companies can bulls*** from time to time, but it would be extremely difficult for them to fool their board of directors on whether or not an entire business segment wouldn't be profitable for them.

nVidia's public statements make sense.. snarky nonsense isn't really needed.

AMD's comments make sense too.. and perhaps in all scenarios they are the better fit. But merely having your GPU in a console isn't automatically some huge business move for you no matter how many units sell. If it entangles a huge portion of your company for a low margin it may end up being an investment with a low return.
 
Whose the sour one?

Good lord. I'm not into gossiping snarky BS about companies decisions.

The point is that nVidia has made statements.. had financial disclosures, etc. that indicate the console business really wasn't working out for them that well financially.

They reportedly made $500 million in 7 years on the PS3 (from pre-production to about 50 million sales):

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/150892-nvidia-gave-amd-ps4-because-console-margins-are-terrible

That's $10 a pop. For a product that the company had to focus a lot of energy on, and for a product that gives a lot of people a reason not to plunk money down on a PC that might make nVidia a significantly higher margin. Publicly traded companies can bulls*** from time to time, but it would be extremely difficult for them to fool their board of directors on whether or not an entire business segment wouldn't be profitable for them.

nVidia's public statements make sense.. snarky nonsense isn't really needed.

AMD's comments make sense too.. and perhaps in all scenarios they are the better fit. But merely having your GPU in a console isn't automatically some huge business move for you no matter how many units sell. If it entangles a huge portion of your company for a low margin it may end up being an investment with a low return.

NVIDIA has been bad with dealing with the console makers. They alienated Microsoft and had to practically beg Sony for a deal. NVIDIA failed to get a proper deal struck up and AMD flourished in capturing all three. Notice how NVIDIA is only just now talking the smackdown on the power of these console now that they are out of the game while AMD argues the opposite. They are both just defending the positions they are respectively in. They acknowledge that what is done is done and that they must now go with the flow and make it seem like everything was going according to plan from the very beginning. Businesses do this all the time and automatically. They are acting sour and saying "Hey! Don't buy that AMD-powered console! Buy an NVIDIA PC and play like a pro!" It's a natural business attitude. Business is business and sour is sour. If NVIDIA got a deal with the PS4, regardless if NVIDIA made any money at all, they would have never had said any of this.
 
People say this is common sense yet I see evidence it is not. NVidia is just putting into perspective the stupidity that runs rampant through the internet and the minds of gamers currently.
 
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People say this is common sense yet I see evidence it is not. NVidia is just putting into perspective the stupidity that runs rampant through the internet and the minds of gamers currently.

Evidence?

There are reports that Xbox One and PS4 might be running BF4 @ ~720p.

In comparison, AMD just demo'd BF4 with their new 290X GPU running the game maxed out @ 5760x1080 locked* at 60fps. They also had it running @ 3k/locked* at 60fps back in May running on a AMD 7990.

That should be enough evidence. It convinced me anyways.

*Locked as in the game could run at a faster frame-rate, but they locked it to the display refreshrate.

It's not that these consoles aren't capable of displaying awesome looking games, because they are... but yeah, I think this should be common sense that these consoles aren't competing with $2-3k custom PC builds.
 
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When I say evidence Im talking about the statement being common sense like some in this thread have said. Of course there is physical evidence all over the internet but how much do people really know. Im surprised by the ignorance of many folk who think the opposite.
 
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“The consoles have power budgets of only 200 or 300 Watts, so they can put them in the living room, "

And all along, I thought the PC diehards said that PC's were for the living room? I will stick with my 200 watt consoles for my living room too, thanks! :)