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She's been living in the wild. That's sure to roughen her up a bit physically 😏
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Complained, where. Why? Is it just cause it is 2023, or is it cause they have nothing for 2022, or maybe because tgey were left with sub par game for 5 years and can't rake it any more? Have fun figuring that out.

Doesn't matter. Point was that was when it was expected, and according to you, should have got complaints, but didn't.


You can do this all year but it isn't going to change the underlying cause and who caused it. The reaction to it is natural and inevitable.


I remember no Forza plus other games at MS show last year being called bad for MS/Xbox and several of us pretty sure it would be coming out this year. Some of those posts from just a couple weeks ago...

End of the day if a publisher feels its best to change a date then so be it if that's what's best. They might have had all the confidence that it would be out this year when they originally announced but issues are always going to pop up especially for a game as big as this.
 
Too bad it got crushed by flight simulator that got released a few months earlier lol
How many hours have you put into flight simulator? how much fun do you have playing it? when you get down low to the ground how good does it look? do the structures on the ground hold up when you actually get anywhere near them? does that game do anything other than have an airplane fly slowly through the air? combat? animation? hair/cloth physics? enemy AI? or does it have graphics that hold up when everything is far away and have nice looking clouds?
 
Pure gameplay = Elden Ring. I was addicted in that game to farm up and even platinum-ed it. It took about 75 hours or so.

Visual showcase = HFW. Nothing touches Horizon graphically this year so far. THE bar for open world games' visuals. In terms of gameplay, played similar to the first one and I had no issues with the former.
Gameplay in elden ring is impacted by the technical issues though, the frame pacing and inconsistent framerate hurt the gameplay IMO it's also not always as responsive as it needs to be and it's extremely frustrating when you get stuck in stupid animations like if you accidently try to take an empty potion or when you get knocked down and have no way of doing anything until he gets up. The camera can be an issue too. I love the magic system although I'd like it to recover on its own over time without needing potions but I love the scale of some of the bigger spells etc, ER and Dragon's Dogma aren't afraid to let mages do cool things.
 
I remember no Forza plus other games at MS show last year being called bad for MS/Xbox and several of us pretty sure it would be coming out this year. Some of those posts from just a couple weeks ago...

End of the day if a publisher feels its best to change a date then so be it if that's what's best. They might have had all the confidence that it would be out this year when they originally announced but issues are always going to pop up especially for a game as big as this.
That's why you don't announce it a year or more out though, a lot of things can change. If you are within 5 months or so you should have a better idea.
 
Gameplay in elden ring is impacted by the technical issues though, the frame pacing and inconsistent framerate hurt the gameplay IMO it's also not always as responsive as it needs to be and it's extremely frustrating when you get stuck in stupid animations like if you accidently try to take an empty potion or when you get knocked down and have no way of doing anything until he gets up. The camera can be an issue too. I love the magic system although I'd like it to recover on its own over time without needing potions but I love the scale of some of the bigger spells etc, ER and Dragon's Dogma aren't afraid to let mages do cool things.

The frame pacing definitely could have been better, Demon's Souls remake was much better in that department.

But Elden Ring was still enjoyable to me despite its technical issues.
 
The frame pacing definitely could have been better, Demon's Souls remake was much better in that department.

But Elden Ring was still enjoyable to me despite its technical issues.
I don't get how after all this time they haven't figured out how to fix that in their games. I played Demon's Souls remake in the performance mode, it was pretty much a locked 60fps and looked great, I couldn't see much difference between that mode and the quality mode visually.
 
That's why you don't announce it a year or more out though, a lot of things can change. If you are within 5 months or so you should have a better idea.

But again complaints come out that a studio isn't doing anything or reports come out claiming everything's on fire to get some clicks.

Sony and ND got complaints for showing 1 single concept art for TLoU MP.

No matter how studios do it they are going to get negative feedback.

For me, simply don't show CGI only trailers. It's 2022 and they shouldn't be a thing.
 
I remember no Forza plus other games at MS show last year being called bad for MS/Xbox and several of us pretty sure it would be coming out this year. Some of those posts from just a couple weeks ago...

End of the day if a publisher feels its best to change a date then so be it if that's what's best. They might have had all the confidence that it would be out this year when they originally announced but issues are always going to pop up especially for a game as big as this.
It was already announced. Point no 1 in this whole discussion. The foundation of the issue. But is irrelevant because it is a different point to the one you previously made and I responded to. Don't go all Valliance on me.

I was hoping it was this year. Even more so after Redfall and Starfield got delayed.

You said yourself, it is rare a game doesn't get delayed these days, "as big as this" just doesn't cut it. I also restate what I previously said, these games get delayed and then still release in a mess and takes months.....sometimes a year just to sort them out. So no, I don't buy the "maybe they had all the confidence" in the original release date.
 
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But again complaints come out that a studio isn't doing anything or reports come out claiming everything's on fire to get some clicks.

Sony and ND got complaints for showing 1 single concept art for TLoU MP.

No matter how studios do it they are going to get negative feedback.

For me, simply don't show CGI only trailers. It's 2022 and they shouldn't be a thing.
It's the internet so people are going to complain no matter what, at least if you don't announce anything it's all speculation and people looking for leaks. Once you have announced it and given a time frame you are setting people up for disappointment because you can almost be sure it's going to be delayed if you are announcing a time frame 2 years early.

The way I figure it if a studio is only capable of working on one game at a time and they just released a big AAA game that won't have DLC you shouldn't hear a peep from them for at least 3 years.
 
It was already announced. Point no 1 in this whole discussion. The foundation of the issue. But is irrelevant because it is a different point to the one you previously made and I responded to. Don't go all Valliance on me.

I was hoping it was this year. Even more so after Redfall and Starfield got delayed.

You said yourself, it is rare a game doesn't get delayed these days, "as big as this" just doesn't cut it. I also restate what I previously said, these games get delayed and then still release in a mess and takes months.....sometimes a year just to sort them out. So no, I don't buy the "maybe they had all the confidence" in the original release date.
I can think of two big releases off the top of my head that should have been delayed longer than they were. Halo Infinite had great gameplay but the actual story and mission variety was missing in the campaign, they should have delayed it to do what they had planned on doing, it's obvious that things were cut there. I don't know what's going on with 343 but their lack of productivity is crazy.

Horizon FW should have been delayed another few months so they could have fixed the tech issues that they just finished fixing this month. What good does fixing everything 4 months later do if you bought the game at launch? So you finish it and then go back and play it again when it's working properly? This mentality that so many publishers have is annoying as hell. I played it on the quality mode and I never noticed any shimmering on my tv but seeing how good the performance mode looks now I think I'd rather have played it that way, sadly the main character and story aren't interesting enough for me to go back and play it again.
 
How many hours have you put into flight simulator? how much fun do you have playing it? when you get down low to the ground how good does it look? do the structures on the ground hold up when you actually get anywhere near them? does that game do anything other than have an airplane fly slowly through the air? combat? animation? hair/cloth physics? enemy AI? or does it have graphics that hold up when everything is far away and have nice looking clouds?
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How many hours have you put into flight simulator? how much fun do you have playing it? when you get down low to the ground how good does it look? do the structures on the ground hold up when you actually get anywhere near them? does that game do anything other than have an airplane fly slowly through the air? combat? animation? hair/cloth physics? enemy AI? or does it have graphics that hold up when everything is far away and have nice looking clouds?
Do you want me to answer all those questions lol

It's way more graphically impressive, there's no way around that.

Now, is horizon a better videogame? It seems so, I have no opinion since I've barely played flight simulator and only watched videos and friends playing horizon, but I can't say I want to play flight simulator again though lol
 
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Do you want me to answer all those questions lol

It's way more graphically impressive, there's no way around that.

Now, is horizon a better videogame? It seems so, I have no opinion since I've barely played flight simulator and only watched videos and friends playing horizon, but I can't say I want to play flight simulator again though lol
Flight sim looks more realistic when everything is at a distance it also has virtually nothing going on when it comes to being a game, I don't think it looks better than Horizon it just looks different. When you don't have to show actual living things up close that have animations, skin, hair etc that kind of helps lol. That's not to say there isn't some impressive stuff going on with flight sim under the hood but it's really not much of a game it's a simulation...that must be why it's called a simulator :)
 
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Flight sim looks more realistic when everything is at a distance it also has virtually nothing going on when it comes to being a game, I don't think it looks better than Horizon it just looks different. When you don't have to show actual living things up close that have animations, skin, hair etc that kind of helps lol. That's not to say there isn't some impressive stuff going on with flight sim under the hood but it's really not much of a game it's a simulation...that must be why it's called a simulator :)
Simulation is a genre of game in the Playstation Store.
 
Flight sim looks more realistic when everything is at a distance it also has virtually nothing going on when it comes to being a game, I don't think it looks better than Horizon it just looks different. When you don't have to show actual living things up close that have animations, skin, hair etc that kind of helps lol. That's not to say there isn't some impressive stuff going on with flight sim under the hood but it's really not much of a game it's a simulation...that must be why it's called a simulator :)
Lol. So much wrong here.

The Real Driving Simulator. Guess GT isn't a game either then. Lol. Sure has been advertised as one for 25 years.
 
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Lol. So much wrong here.

The Real Driving Simulator. Guess GT isn't a game either then. Lol. Sure has been advertised as one for 25 years.
It's not a driving simulation no matter what they call it, no racing game is they just try to make it "realistic" I drive a car I know how it feels to drive vs playing a video game lol. Racing GAMES require constant play, there is a competition etc Flight Sim you can turn on auto pilot and the computer does all the work for you, you can't do that in a racing game. They aren't even close to the same thing lol.

I said flight sim wasn't much of a game btw I didn't say it wasn't a game at all, it truly tries to simulate flying a plane there just isn't a lot of fun in that for most people.
 
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It's not a driving simulation no matter what they call it, no racing game is they just try to make it "realistic" I drive a car I know how it feels to drive vs playing a video game lol. Racing GAMES require constant play, there is a competition etc Flight Sim you can turn on auto pilot and the computer does all the work for you, you can't do that in a racing game. They aren't even close to the same thing lol.

I said flight sim wasn't much of a game btw I didn't say it wasn't a game at all, it truly tries to simulate flying a plane there just isn't a lot of fun in that for most people.
So it is exempt because they failed. Lol. No, it is called and advertised as a simulation. Same as PES was always called a Football Simulator, but according to you, 'they can't be much of a game cause they are simulators...that must be why they are called simulators

You can do that in a racing game. One of the old Forza's did it, that feature eventually turned into Driveatars. So, wrong again.

There isn't a lot of fun in HFW for most people either.

So far everything you have said is nonsense or dismissive. You create scenarios but only present one side of the coin to justify your overall opinion. I mean how good does HFW look from 30,000ft in the air? Likely like ass and very very small with the rendering distance of Mr Magoo's eye sight without glasses.

If you think HFW looks better, cool, don't need to justify it with nonsensical B0llocks.
 
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I’m really tired of people trying to say what is a game and what is not. If you don’t like a certain type of genre then it just isn’t for you. Someone trying to put down those games and those that love them for whatever reason is humorous. Troll much.
 
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